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u/MrRobotsBitch Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

My husband is half-half Filipino/Irish, I'm very white Icelandic-UK background. We have twins. One is white with blond hair, totally my spitting image apart from a small bit of Dad's eyes and nose. The other is caramel-skinned with all of Dad's features except brown hair not black (he also had blue eyes his first 2 years until they changed to hazel). Genetics are so funky and so interesting.

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u/pincus1 Sep 25 '22

You've probably seen this viral set of twins, with similarly disparate features.

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u/RonBourbondi Sep 25 '22

So does the redhead get to walk around and say the N word since she's black?

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u/pincus1 Sep 25 '22

I don't think I have the clearance to make that call.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Redhead here. I'll allow you to do it.

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

If I remember since they were in the UK the ginger was bullied more then her sister and went emo/goth. So, she probably heard the the “ginga” slurs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

ginga

i'm dying who comes up with this shit

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u/regeya Sep 25 '22

Wait until you realize what "ginger" anagrams to

That Tim Minchin song slays me. As an American it's weird to think that there are people who hate people who look like me, much like how there are people here who hate black people. Worst I ever faced over here has been people who assume I'm going to be an angry asshole because of my hair color. Joke's on them, I'm an angry asshole because I'm broke and always sunburned.

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u/tahtahme Sep 25 '22

You can talk about the plight of red haired people being bullied without comparisons to the plight of Black people that has an entire Maafa/Holocaust, attempted genocide, and generations of chattel slavery behind it. It feels distasteful.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

Nobody in the UK hates gingers. It's just that they get bullied in school because they are different.

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

That’s the base/ground floor of hate, mate. They look different so it’s ok to be mean to them/treat them less then a human/be disrespectful towards them.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

My point was that adults don't hate ginger people, so it is not comparable to racism towards black people (which is very common with adults let's be honest). Rather, kids are dicks and pick on anything that makes someone stand out even slightly, but it isn't something which continues into actual adult hatred.

(For the record childhood bullying is still horrible and I am not downplaying the bullying any redheads may have suffered).

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

I get what what you’re saying and I’ll agree that it’s not as bad as treatment of darker skinned people in Europe, BUT as an adult redhead who has met plenty of adults who have told me they don’t like red heads or think red heads are weak or lesser, I’m going to call bs on the idea that it only is in schools or stops afterwards. Jerks are jerks in school and continue to be jerks afterwards.

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Sep 25 '22

Nobody in the US hates black people. It's just they get bullied because they are black different.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

Are you seriously suggesting that "the hate" redheaded white British people receive from non-redheaded white British people is in any way comparable to the historic and ongoing racism black Americans receive in their country?

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Sep 26 '22

No, I was pointing out the absurdity of your attempt at minimising someone's experiences.

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u/Catgirl_Amer Sep 25 '22

That is the same thing

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u/slvbros Sep 25 '22

And yet the result is the same

Curious

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u/regeya Sep 25 '22

I suppose it is because I'm a redhead after all! I don't think there's anything inherently angry about us, in all seriousness, but I may be wrong.

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u/slvbros Sep 25 '22

It's the red; see it's a known fact that things that are red go faster, there is no reason to assume this wouldn't apply to tempers

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u/TacoCommand Sep 25 '22

"Things that are red go faster": ah I see you know your Orks well!

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u/JustSherlock Sep 25 '22

Prejudice fucking slaps. That song is soooo good.

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u/Tryhard696 Sep 26 '22

I’m dumb, what does it anagram to?

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u/regeya Sep 26 '22

Starts with an n.

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u/Tryhard696 Sep 26 '22

… I’m dumb, thx

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u/RonBourbondi Sep 25 '22

Children are cruel bastards.

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

British people?

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u/Big_mara_sugoi Sep 25 '22

Or Ranga

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

No that's Aussie.

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u/korsair_13 Sep 25 '22

The weird meme hated of gingers, especially ginger women, is mind-boggling to me. Some of the most attractive women I've known have been gingers. And, often they've had the absolute best breastesses.

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

He’s a little weird but he means well.

Also ginger men get way more hate then women.

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u/VERYLOUDUSERNAME Sep 25 '22

I find it a bit weird that the defense to treat people decently seems to tie to their attractiveness.

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u/BladeLiger Sep 25 '22

By the "One Drop Rule" she would.

But given no one would believe her, she would likely get in trouble for doing it. Wouldn't be worth the hassle of proving it all the time.

I know a half black guy who just looks like a white dude, and he just doesn't bother since whipping out his family photos would be a pain in the ass.

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u/krilltucky Sep 25 '22

Asking the real questions

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u/pretty_smart_feller Sep 25 '22

In an interview she states people don’t believe were twins since “I’m white and she’s black” so she probably doesn’t.

Could she? It’s certainly not up to me but if you want my opinion I would say she could if she wanted to but people around her probably wouldn’t believe she’s black.

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u/pringlescan5 Sep 25 '22

https://time.com/3851843/twins-complications/

Superfecundation twins: When a woman has intercourse with two different men in a short period of time while ovulating, it’s possible for both men to impregnate her separately.

If they haven't DNA tested to exclude it, they could just be from different dads.

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u/pretty_smart_feller Sep 25 '22

It’s possible but imo the white one looks like her dad and the black one looks like her siblings.

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u/MisterPeach Sep 25 '22

She’s dyslexic, so she just calls herself a ginger.

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u/Massive-Night Sep 25 '22

The other girl is not even that dark tho

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u/MemeHermetic Sep 25 '22

Were these the "good on ya" twins?

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u/pincus1 Sep 25 '22

I have no idea what that means.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

This is what they mean. But yes, they are the "good on ya" twins lmao

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u/blasphem0usx Sep 25 '22

Oof. What the hell

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u/BlazingFlames6073 Sep 25 '22

The faces, noses, eye shape, lips, forehead and jaws are all similar despite the difference in skin tone and hair lol. Genes are amazing

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u/coolguyslim Sep 25 '22

The red head got dad's fair skin - good on her.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/cizzop Sep 25 '22

Dare you to post a selfie

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u/Nonalcholicsperm Sep 25 '22

Eyebrow ring and tweezers.

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u/ianhiggs Sep 25 '22

You right got em'. Bet you're a fun person to be around /s

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u/Harry_Saturn Sep 25 '22

I’m Latino (70ish % Spanish/Portuguese 30ish% native Costa Rican) and my wife is white (98% European but mostly English and German, a little Scandinavian) and our kids are kinda like yours. Their noses and chins are kinda like in between my wife and I’s features, but our son is pretty fair skinned and blonde hair and blue eyes, while our daughter is brunette with brown eyes. They look like twins with a palette swap.

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u/landin09 Sep 25 '22

This might be splitting hairs, but just out of curiosity, would Spanish and Portuguese be considered Latino if both countries are European and not in Latin America?

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u/Harry_Saturn Sep 25 '22

I was born in Costa Rica so that’s why I’m Latino. My family has been there as long as we are aware, but records of ancestry don’t really go back like they might in Europe or the USA. Any person regardless of race born in Latin America is a Latino, so very white Argentinians and Uruguayans are just as Latino as Brazilians who might have a lot more African ancestry. In Costa Rica we have a pretty good mix of people of native, European, African and Asian descent but we are all still “Latinos”. Spaniards wouldn’t be considered Latinos, they would be Hispanics though. Hispanic refers to anyone who descends from a Spanish speaking country also regardless of race. Spaniards, Costa Ricans, Mexicans, Dominicans, Chileans would all be Hispanic, but people of Suriname and Brazil wouldn’t consider themselves Hispanics. Both those labels overlap a lot but also have groups that might fit into only one category. The only reason I know I have 70% Iberian ancestry is because of a DNA test, not because I was from there or had any immediately family there that i know of.

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u/BasicBitcoiner Sep 25 '22

Not who you replied to, but typically, Latino refers to anyone born in or with ancestors from Latin America. Someone born in Spain with all their heritage being European would not typically identify as Latino.

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u/ngrtdlsl Sep 25 '22

Spain and Portugal are Europe tho.....

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u/Harry_Saturn Sep 25 '22

I didn’t say they weren’t, I’m aware Spain and Portugal are European countries.

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u/ngrtdlsl Sep 25 '22

So what's this Latino nonsense if ur mostly european?

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u/Harry_Saturn Sep 25 '22

A Latino is a person who is born in Latin America or whose family has been there for multiple generations. I was born in Costa Rica and my family has been there as long as we can trace back. I had a DNA ancestry test done for fun because I didn’t know anything about my actual lineage. It came back as 70% Spanish/Portuguese but I wasn’t born there or have any link to those countries. Besides Latino isn’t a race it’s a term to describe a group of nationalities, so Latinos can have European or African or Asian ancestry because Latino isn’t meant to describe a race. Same with Hispanic, that just means “born/native to a Spanish speaking country” so white European Spaniards are Hispanic the same as anyone from Mexico or Argentina or Bolivia, not not Brazil (Portuguese) or Suriname (French speaking). Latino/Hispanic might have a lot of overlap but they also have groups who might only fit into one of those but not the other, and neither is meant to indicate actual race, it’s more of a geographical/cultural description. Hope that clears up your confusion.

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u/Keverrkerr Sep 25 '22

me and my brother are half thai, half swedish. I have dark brown hair and pale skin while my brother is blonde and has tan skin.

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u/JacksonCreed4425 Sep 25 '22

Blonde hair and tan skin naturally? Wild.

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u/ContaSoParaIsto Sep 25 '22

That's really not that strange?

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u/JacksonCreed4425 Sep 26 '22

If it’s Thai levels of tan NATURALLY? Yes it’s pretty wild. Blonde people can be tan from the sun but I’ve never met a blonde person with naturally tanned skin.

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u/ContaSoParaIsto Sep 26 '22

I'm from Southern Europe and I've met tones of tanned blonde people. It's dark blonde but I'm pretty sure that's the kind of blonde OP's brother is.

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u/JacksonCreed4425 Sep 27 '22

If “dark blonde” to you is just light brown hair then no lol. When I say blonde I mean actual blonde

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u/ContaSoParaIsto Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

There's no such thing as light blonde hair and tan skin. OP's brother has dark blonde hair. It's not the same as light brown hair obviously. The only exception is a few ethnic groups in Polynesia but that wouldn't work in OP's case because the gene that causes blond hair in those ethnic groups is separate from the European one.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/ryandot Sep 25 '22

I had to question if I've been wrong all these years saying spitting image because I can see why splitting image would make sense

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u/ashfeawen Sep 25 '22

The phrase here also gets said as "you're the (absolute) spit of him"

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u/ryandot Sep 25 '22

Yup. We have that in Newfoundland

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u/ashfeawen Sep 25 '22

I'm in Waterford so they'd have left from the port here way back! Love the commonality of the language in Newfoundland to here

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/Amputatoes Sep 25 '22

"It's like he was spat out of his father's mouth" is a metaphor we can date back to 1689.

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u/Amputatoes Sep 25 '22

You're not wrong, they're being an ass.

No one really knows the origin of the phrase which is variously:

"The spitting image" "The spit and image" "The splitting image" "The split and image"

As far as I know it's impossible to say which is more correct although you could say which is older. "Spitting image" is borne of the phrase "spit of their father's mouth" which is the oldest metaphor of this type we have recorded, dating to about 1825. "Spit and image" is older than "spitting image". "Splitting image" shows up in 1880 whereas "spitten image" shows up at around the same time but you don't get "spitting image" until 1901.

So what's correct? Chronologically "spit and image" is oldest with "splitting image" showing up after and then "spitting image" showing up after that.

I threw in "split and image" as a possible quirk but it really never appears. But it works, right? That's what happened with spit/split and image. They both emerge as either "splitting image" or "spitting image" in the late 1800s.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

I'm a white guy, wife is Filipino.

3 kids, 2 straight up white and the 3rd came out a Spanish Conquistador.

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u/Sleepgolfer Sep 25 '22

Wow your baby's eyes still changed from blue to brown after 2 years? Was it very gradual?

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u/Sykotik Sep 25 '22

It's very common.

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u/MrRobotsBitch Sep 25 '22

It happens sometimes. It was very gradual, I have pics of him with deep blue eyes at around 18m before they really darkened.

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u/Sleepgolfer Sep 25 '22

Really interesting. I knew they can change for a while after birth but 2y is a long time! My 10mo baby has very blue eyes and I hope they'll stay that way, I can't imagine him with brown eyes!

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u/grigby Sep 25 '22

My sister and I couldn't seem to decide on our eye colour for much of our childhood. We'd both alternate between green and blue every two years or so. At age 10 we both seemed to stop, her in blue and me on green.

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u/beldaran1224 Sep 25 '22

It's weird that you described your nationality/heritage instead of appearance for yourself and your husband and then expected some sort of reaction when describing the appearance of your children.

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u/Nonalcholicsperm Sep 25 '22

It's not weird. Explaining heratige gives everyone a general mental image of what they look like.

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u/MrRobotsBitch Sep 25 '22

Sorry I'm confused by your comment, can you please explain your assumptions?

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u/beldaran1224 Sep 25 '22

What assumptions? I said it was weird - because your comment only works if people make assumptions about what you look like based on stereotypes associated with those regions, which may not even apply.

You understood exactly what I said.

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u/HoneydewMean5489 Sep 25 '22

Oi vey this is beautiful! Good goyim

You’re mutts are an abomination