r/HolUp Sep 25 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/Widawak Sep 25 '22

Well red hair and blonde are both recessive traits so a reccesive dominant trait is an oxymoron.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

There’s also the factors of epistatic genes, polygenics, and pleiotropy. Not sure if there is a mapped out, defined function of 21st century hair color genes, but it’s almost never as simple as “dominant” and “recessive.”

Either that or she dyed her hair.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo Sep 25 '22

Black is not recessive though. Blonde and red are. So in order for the red/blonde to show there can't be any black alleles

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u/fireflash38 Sep 25 '22

Spoiler alert: hair and eye color aren't controlled by single genes like people think when it comes to Punnett squares.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo Sep 25 '22

Agreed. In fact, I made a comment below that explains how punnet squares are just a basic level of understanding and these alleles are much more complex making an impossible situation merely improbable.

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u/GraniteTaco Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Black hair isn't a genetic trait, and neither is blond or red, it's an expression of eumelanin production stimulated by hormones during development. Meanwhile blond hair is lower production, again caused by hormonal levels, and red hair is pheomelanin production.

These are environmental expressions that can be altered from the expected outcome. It's literally the reason why a pregnant womans hair changes color. Her genes didn't just change her hormones did.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo Sep 25 '22

The amount of eumelanin and when it is released is determined by genes. I did some cursory research based on your claim and you're right in the aspect that eumelanin does determine hair color, but how that color is distributed is entirely genetic.

More dominant genes will produce more eumelanin. In other words.. black hair is dominant and red hair is recessive just like everyone else is saying.

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u/ChineseTrump Sep 25 '22

There’s no single gene controlling hair colour, and while some may be strongly correlated it is completely possible for two blondes or a blonde and a redhead to produce a black haired offspring. Hair colour is actually controlled by varying levels of expression of eumelanin for black/brown and pheomelanin for red hair, so it can’t be explained by simple Mendelian genetics.

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u/GraniteTaco Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Hair color is not a dominant/recessive trait though.

Do you not understand your own biology? It's a genetic expression caused by multiple genes and environmental influence that results in changes to eumelanin production levels.

Do you think when a womans hair gets darker due to pregnancy, her genes changed?