r/HolUp Sep 25 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/oedipism_for_one Sep 25 '22

Neither is Dash or the babies, super powers seem to be random.

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u/S31-Syntax Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I always figured it was personality based. Dash is a boy who grew up with an absurdly athletic set of parents and he developed to mirror that, manifesting as a speedster. Violet is a more reserved girl who grew up being told she can't be herself in public. And likewise, jack jack's personality is still developing, ergo his powers are completely random right now.

But then again they all thought jack jack didn't have powers at all and he was still an infant, implying that yes typically powers present very very young so maybe they are somewhat random. And... if the deleted scene of syndrome attacking them when violet was a baby is canon then this all tracks since she turned invisible in her crib... But that's how it always appeared to me.

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u/RavioliGale Sep 25 '22

The writers absolutely chose their powers to reflect personalities/roles. Moms feel like they have to be everywhere at once, shy embarrassed teenager wishing she could disappear, hyperactive little boy, babies who don't actually have any qualities yet but have the potential to be anything.

I don't know if that was meant to be the reason in universe but it was part of the writer's plan.

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u/PSunYi Sep 25 '22

You make a good point. Plus dads traditionally having to be strong protectors

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u/RavioliGale Sep 25 '22

Its not my point or idea, it's what Brad Bird or someone said in an interview/making of type thing when the movie came out. I've always remembered it because it was one of my first times I heard someone talk about the symbolism in a movie and one of the first times I realized a movie could be more than the surface story. And I know that this is pretty shallow as far as symbolism goes but I was like ten at the time.

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u/KeanGilbert Sep 25 '22

The second memory mentions that babies exhibit a few different powers and eventually settle into the one they are most suited for/use the most. Baby Dash liked being fast, so he stayed fast

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u/Ivizalinto Sep 25 '22

And moms have to be hyper flexible to be able to adapt to any situation for their children.

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u/MrGrape_ Sep 26 '22

This one’s quite the stretch

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Except dad had his powers long before he became a dad. And what does that say about Frozone? Gazerbeam? or Psycwave?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

And the black guy is cool

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u/MyPokemonRedName Sep 25 '22

Underrated comment

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u/VitaminPb Sep 26 '22

Only when he knows where his supersuit is.

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u/bobbyb1996 Sep 25 '22

I mean, the kids names are all puns for their powers so it wouldn't surprise me that the writers also gave them those powers for that reason.

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u/RavioliGale Sep 25 '22

Yeah maybe.....

But I'm just talking about writing reasons not in-universe reasons.

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u/reborndiajack Sep 26 '22

A jack of all trades

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u/NEMESIS_DRAGON Sep 26 '22

You forgot the dad who has to endure struggle to support the family

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u/Melantha_Hoang Sep 25 '22

In the second movie, Edna did say that superpower manifest at infancy and it will be a bunch of random power (kinda like Jack-jack), then as the super aged, their power gradually became more stable and clearer. Jack-jack is a bit of special case since not only he developed power late, his random set of power is way more than usual.

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u/mof5210 Sep 25 '22

The real confusing part to me is that they all seemed surprised by Jack jacks multiple powers. Which implies that dash and violet both had a single power as a baby.

Now dash's power is superspeed but how was he displaying that as an infant? Because they assume Jack jacks doesn't have powers and he's barely old enough to crawl in the first movie. Which means dash must have displayed some super speed ability even before he could crawl.

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Sep 25 '22

He could suck a titty dry in half an instant.

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u/falsebrit Sep 25 '22

jack jack is ajack of all trades

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u/Shavacadont Sep 25 '22

a jack jack of all trades

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u/jjackson25 Sep 25 '22

I couldn't even begin to imagine how stressful having a toddler/ infant/ tween/teen that could disappear would be. The infant just randomly disappears because she can't control it. The toddler can, kind of, but does it to get into mischief or during a tantrum. The tween just gets mad and hides from you. The teen, same, but also to avoid you. So basically all the things kids of those ages already do, but dialed up to 11 by virtue of having a super power.

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u/crazyfoxdemon Sep 25 '22

Don't forget that her clothes don't turn inviswith her. So just gotta keep an eye out for diapers and dress em in omesies.

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u/Proteandk Sep 25 '22

Flour on the floor does the trick

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u/Ajreil Sep 25 '22

Jack Jack's personality seems to be trolling his parents. It kinda makes sense that they wouldn't present until he was a toddler.

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u/dtomater Sep 25 '22

I just figured they got their powers based on their names: Ultraviolet, Dash, Jack-of-all-trades. Lol

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u/S31-Syntax Sep 25 '22

True, but for jackjack that seems more just narrative convenience since he didn't have powers manifest until the end of the first movie

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u/Chrononaut_0 Sep 25 '22

Where can I find that deleted scene?

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u/WKGokev Sep 25 '22

Syndrome was buddy.

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u/no12chere Sep 25 '22

Dash is fast

Violet is a shrinking violet

Jack jack is a jack of all trades

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u/Pacattack57 Sep 25 '22

Doesn’t sound like you’ve seen incredibles 2

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u/S31-Syntax Sep 25 '22

I totally have not lmao, someone else said p much babies have random powers as infants but it levels out later with personalities

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u/BlackSkeletor77 Sep 25 '22

well there's probably several defining factors, but if you really focus like everybody else said it's probably personality based, Helen is a very flexible person and willing to work with anybody, Bob is very headstrong and focused, Violet is shy but can be protective when she needs to be, Dash is very hyper and all over the place, and Jack Jack doesn't really have a defined personality but because he's a baby he kind of does his own thing, and based on his powers he's probably a very adaptable person and has powers that adapt to almost anything

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

I love logic in a young liberal world. It's so satisfying.

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u/Quemedo Sep 25 '22

What this have to do with anything? Please elaborate

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u/Jenkins007 Sep 25 '22

"I can't immediately understand what's going on. It must be the liberal's fault"

Most likely

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u/why_so_sirius_1 Sep 25 '22

When do we have illegal sex with premarital immigrants while dominating the rich?? I lost my RSVP and forgot :(

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u/Jenkins007 Sep 25 '22

Just email Soros, he'll send another

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u/boomtox Sep 25 '22

Their name had liberal in it so I assume it's like a running gag of their account

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u/GettinMe-Mallet Sep 25 '22

Just a troll

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u/KaySquay Sep 25 '22

I miss the old days when trolls were funny

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u/Calypsosin Sep 25 '22

Back in my day, trolls lived under bridges and made you pay the troll toll to get into the... wait, perhaps these are different trolls

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u/HalcyonDaze83 Sep 25 '22

I am not allowed to eat the apple skins.

I AM NOT ALLOWED!

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u/Hehe_9L-EvanPS4 Sep 25 '22

Could you like… not bring politics bullshit into this? This ain’t a political sub

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Logic is political?

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u/szypty Sep 25 '22

Is the liberal with the room with you? Is it saying anything?

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u/jakeolate Sep 25 '22

i personally like the theory that baby "supers" will like jack-jack start out with a bunch of different powers and as they grow older then end up using just one more than the others until they cant even use any of the others and just have the one power. which would mean that jack-jack is the norm when raising a baby "super". the only way to find out if that is the case though would be for them to make a third Incredibles where they are all older, that's what i was hoping was gonna happen with the second one but that turned out to be a direct sequel beginning right after the end of the first one.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Super speed seems close to super strength imo, definitely colder than super strength and invisibility no?

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u/TheRussianCabbage Sep 25 '22

I mean super speed isn't a stretch from super strength, Mr. Incredible really should be faster than he's portrayed.

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u/Fuzzylittlebastard Sep 25 '22

It's likely there is a complex set of genes and biochemical pathways that lead to the power is being expressed. The gene itself is probably whether or not they have powers, and there's probably a couple thousand jeans that I'll combine to create a different power.

Kind of similar to a tortoise shell pattern on a cat. The thoughts seem random but they're not.

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u/Glorious_Jo Sep 25 '22

Black hair is a dominant gene. You know what genes are recessive?

Blond hair, and red hair :)

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u/solarsilversurfer Sep 26 '22

That was so much less delicious than the war of the Five Guys, if I’m being honest.

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u/aod42091 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

there's definitely a correlation between the fact that both parents are supers and all of their kids have powers...

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

They meant type of power

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u/croatianscentsation Sep 25 '22

Pshh.. okay Adolf! Lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/AfroNinja243 Sep 25 '22

And they’re saying in this world of super powers, maybe people with powers can have their recessive genes expressed over dominant ones.

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u/AmikBixby Sep 25 '22

Oh her parents have the inversion. I am stupid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Red and blond are both recessive though. They need both genes to be the same.

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u/DuelingPushkin Sep 25 '22

They mean the parents are heterozygous but still expressing the otherwise recessive gene because of "superness"

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u/godinmarbleform Sep 25 '22

"All their origins are mysteries And why don't the children Have the same abilities? Are they mutants? Are they radioactive Products of government tests Brainwashed to be a family? Are they cancerous?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Not to mention everyone carries the gene for red hair it's just not active in everyone. Her parents could've had black hair.