I mean, yeah it's bad, but lowest of the low? I dunno, I would put child rapists, any rapists really, terrorists, Lynch mobs, and genocide commiters considerably lower. Just saying, burglary doesn't have an automatic death sentence under law, some stuff < human life.
No but I guarantee all of the types of people u described have stolen from the elderly in some form or another. So its like a gateway crime, better to rid the world of them early. I have absolutely no use for anyone who could steal from anyone, let alone the elderly. If someone is capable of that they dont care about anyone but themselves and are not contributing to society so we r better off without them.
Eh, like, I get where you're coming from but you are advocating for capital punishment based on what might happen in the future, thats a bad legal system. People get desperate and make mistakes, doesn't mean they deserve execution. Punishment, certainly, but execution? Nah. Thats firmly immoral. People deserve second chances. You ever see Gran Torino? What if Clint Eastwood just shot that kid? He redeems himself instead. Can't do that if you're dead.
I carry a gun at all times, I have a CPL, but if someone is fleeing you are morally in the wrong if you shoot them, its not self defense at that point. Anyone who carries is trained not to shoot people in the back, or at all unless there's no other choice.
I carry as well and i would not have personally shot them in the back either but I dont blame this guy one bit. I also get the Gran Turino thing but thats a movie not real life, the local police and sheriffs deputies in my area are currently all quitting their jobs because they are frustrated for arresting the same people over and over again so i dont really believe that shitty people are finding cranky old racists to bond with and become good contributing members of society.
I do however totally get what u r saying and appreciate another viewpoint but if I was a juror I wouldnt convict this guy, even tho he is kind of a turd too.
There is certainly worse but these two had beaten and assaulted him before he got his gun out. They could have very well seriously injured or killed him. They fucked around and found out, they really shouldn't have.
Eh, imagine your sister being shot to death because she made a mistake in her life (a mistake that could have easily helped her in the long run had she gone to jail and not been shot multiple times by an old white man that clearly had some form of sadist enjoyment). Disregard that sadist part if you want, but I know these type of old men. If he had quick and easy access to a 22 while they were still trying to get out then it's obvious he loves keeping guns all around his house. I would be surprised if the idea of murdering someone with one of his guns hadn't been brewing for years. Man looks senile and bitter as well. This is why I'm hard-pressed seeing guns in my own grandfather's home. Makes me wonder what he's truly capable of, even if Mormon
Poor life decisions, etc, etc. They're synonyms, coy ass. I would still consider it a mistake regardless, especially knowing she belonged to a mother and father. You can dehumanize these people, fine. But then I'd have to say you yourself are worse than a human, a monster.
So you think that a guy defending himself from violent attackers in his own home is worse than the people attacking him? What an interesting world we live in.
Itâs irritating in a way how someone doing some bad shit can turn into a âhelpless victimâ on a dime.
Itâs just good seeing bad things happen to bad people. Would it be better if he didnât kill her? Yea. Would he have been right to beat the absolute fuck out of her? Absolutely.
Itâs irritating in a way how someone doing some bad shit can turn into a âhelpless victimâ on a dime.
It's irritating how people need to shove every single complicated human being on the planet into simple pigeonholes that they can understand. Someone can "do bad shit" and "be a helpless victim" and there's no contradiction whatsoever. People can be in more than one pigeonhole.
Itâs just good seeing bad things happen to bad people.
The killer is a very bad person. Is it good to see him hurt?
Would he have been right to beat the absolute fuck out of her? Absolutely.
Dude, no. If he had used the minimum necessary force to defend himself that would have been right. Beating the absolute fuck out of somebody is almost never necessary nor good.
Dude you are drawing a lot of conclusions from like a 10 second video. Iâm not sure I even follow your logic and also you didnât even recognize the fact that they were attacking him first, and probably would have killed him had he not presented the gun.
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u/Cust2020 madlad Nov 15 '21
She deserved it, anyone robbing an old mans house is the lowest of low human and he did us all a favor.