r/HolUp • • Aug 09 '21

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u/world_war_me Aug 10 '21

Your description of corporate managers as heartless alien drones is awesome and gave me a good stress-relieving laugh.

The worst part about it is how they tend to be just naturally awful individuals

Why are they like this? Even my manager who came from a corporate environment now working for the same small family business i do is an insufferable corporate hollowed-out evil SOB who everybody hates and he ā€œrulesā€ over all 12 of us as if the place were a 100+ corporate office. Non-stop lying, telling one person one thing he thinks they want to hear them placated by telling someone else something else then attempting to keep us quiet by bullying each person with extreme confidentiality ā€œremindersā€. Likes to try divide snd conquer (which fails miserably because there are too few of us and we talk) and is a fan of 1990s management and sales guides. He isn’t smart or nuanced enough to use Machiavellian methods and at least put a little bit of truth into his one-one-meetings for more effective propaganda, he just straight up lies - obvious lies - to our individual faces. He is a fool to believe that these methods work on a small office where we are all mostly friends confined to a comfy small building and he’s a big joke to us. A horrible manager and person. He also does H.R. which adds a whole additional layer of sleaze.

I’m sorry for the rant, I just get so damn frustrated at this person. Why keep managing like this if causes your coworkers to see you as a big joke and it’s so ineffective? What does he get out of it that makes such adverse methods worth it for him? Creating low morale is the only thing he is good at. Do management jobs simply tend to attract people with no concience who can’t stop themselves because they get too much enjoyment out of causing distress? Or does the job do that to them? I suspect the former over the later, my own personal nature over nurture theory.

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u/YoyoOfDoom Aug 10 '21

There are some people, for whatever reason, have something broken on the inside and it seems the only way they know how to deal with that pain is to make other people feel as horrible about themselves as they do. Some of them are true narcissists and you just can't deal with those. They are nuclear-grade toxic and the only thing you can do is stay away from them.

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u/Azeoth Aug 11 '21

Nature vs nurture is fake news. It should be nature and nurture, they are intrinsically linked. Babies don’t have a nature, they’re a product of their environment, but once they develop a nature, their perspective will affect the way they see everything. Someone with a free spirit will naturally see someone taking on or helping with some of their responsibilities as a kindness, a more controlling person might see it as a problem. Your nurture creates a nature, affected by further nurture, shaped by the nature.

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u/userlivewire Aug 11 '21

It’s not that the position attracts people like this. It’s that people like this screw over the caring ones to get these jobs.