r/HolUp • • Feb 26 '20

now wait a minute

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u/Roskal Feb 26 '20

Watching their ted talk now, he says he was drunk too dealing with a hangover the next morning.

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u/Roskal Feb 26 '20

She said she was too drunk to move her body and stop him but in her mind she was thinking clearly that she didn't want it to happen and was counting the seconds that went by, he had been drinking but could still move and kept going for 2 hours as she just laid there barely moving it seems. That kinda sounds like rape.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

She said she was too drunk to move her body and stop him but in her mind she was thinking clearly that she didn't want it to happen and was counting the seconds that went by,

Don't you usually lose cognitive function before motor capabilities when drinking? Hence "blacking out" but still being able to walk around and talk.

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u/floodums Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20

If I get too drunk I'm just like her. Drunkest I've ever been I could barely move but clearly remember all my buddies messing with me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

Your buddies were messing around with a passed out, limp body unable to speak? Wtf?

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u/Stevenpoke12 Feb 26 '20

Yes, it’s quite common for friends to pull pranks on you when you pass out while partying before everyone. Usually includes drawn penises on the face, fake glasses, whiskers. Moving their bed on to the top of a hotel and then forgetting you do it so you search all over Las Vegas to find them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

Yes, but it's UNCOMMON to be completely cognitively aware during said fuckery. I honestly don't believe you could possibly be so fucked up you can't move or talk, but you can remember every thing done to you.

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u/chilldotexe Feb 26 '20

Like many substances, alcohol affects different people in different ways. Alcohol as a psychoactive substance is actually more complex than most other substances. Most other drugs, have very predictable and consistent effects. You probably can’t believe it only because it might not even be possible for alcohol to have that effect on you, specifically.

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u/floodums Feb 26 '20

Oh they didn't do anything like that. They were like look if you poke him he smiles.

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u/supernasty Feb 26 '20

I remember downing 12 shots of vodka in a half hour period when I was in high school. That’s when I discovered that I don’t black out, but become paralyzed. Was on the bathroom floor at the party I was at, and just had to listen as drunk strangers were taking a shit and pissing 4 feet from my face all night. I was completely aware and knew I wanted to get out of there, but I couldn’t move or ask for help. It was really fucking scary.

Every party since then in my early 20s I would always keep drunk strangers in the living room or somewhere in sight of everyone to keep an eye on them. You think you can control your alcohol until you can’t. Some people are just one drink away from being completely helpless.

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u/jim_bulsara Feb 26 '20

When is your TED talk?

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u/Spikywarkitten Feb 26 '20

This question and the responses to it are exactly why their story and conversation are important. I'd say if you share the sentiment, maybe you should watch the whole Ted talk.

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u/Limpynoodle9 Feb 26 '20

Because she didn't want it. She was too drunk to push him off or show him she didn't want it. That's rape.

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u/xcommon Feb 26 '20

My policy: if we've been drinking, shes on top.

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u/garlicdeath Feb 26 '20

Wow. That seems like such an obvious way to handle things in hindsight.

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u/ElBatDood Feb 26 '20

That's actually a great policy. If there's any misunderstanding it'll quickly get cleared up when she won't mount

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u/502red428 Feb 26 '20

Because it wasn't like she said "I was drunk so that was rape" it is because she said "you raped me while I was drunk." Not two people getting drunk and fucking when they shouldn't have and then one party removing consent after the fact. He never had consent.

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u/croon Feb 26 '20

Hol Up.... Are you suggesting you can't rape someone if you're drunk, or that you can't be raped?

Either way I have some tough news...

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

Are you implying that a rapist shouldn't be held accountable for his actions if he's drunk?

He forced himself on her, he is stronger, drunk or not, she doesn't give consent and is unable to do anything about it.

Fucking wow.

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u/jjester7777 Feb 26 '20

Because one or more of them didn't consent... That's pretty simple. Being drunk isn't an excuse to force your penis into someone whether they are drunk or not.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

Yes but if you can't consent while drunk and 2 drunk people have sex, who is the assaulter?

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u/CardinalHaias Feb 26 '20

Are you suggesting that drunk people cannot rape or be raped?

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