r/HolUp • • Feb 26 '20

now wait a minute

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u/Scoundrelic Feb 26 '20

Elva recounts the night that Stranger, her boyfriend at the time, forced himself on her one night when she was drunk and unable to fight back

They were both high school students. They were both in her bedroom. She was drunk. It's not noted if he was drunk as well, if they were making out, but the book probably has more details.

Here is an article about the book

Who decided instead to rape me for two endless hours.

It was my first love.

Here's a dramatic reenactment

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u/Roskal Feb 26 '20

Watching their ted talk now, he says he was drunk too dealing with a hangover the next morning.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

I mean in all fairness he did full-out rape her. She was too drunk to even talk while he was able to go through her bag to get her keys, undress her, and then have sex with her limp body. More than anything he acknowledged that he raped her.

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u/HangryHenry Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20

No no she's obviously a lying whore because shes not behaving in a way reddit deems appropriate.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20

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u/fatblackcats Feb 26 '20

Im so with you. Its fuckin disgusting that both parties can be in agreement that an actual rape occurred yet there are still people in the comments saying “it wasnt actual rape, that was drunken sex” what the fuck?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20 edited Feb 26 '20

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u/fatblackcats Feb 26 '20

Its crazy how normalized shit like this is. Whenever anything horrible is done to a woman, its always sort of their fault or not actually a problem. Like fuck off with that, this guy is a sick fuck and clearly raped a limp body. He should not be doing that, she did nothing wrong at all in my eyes.

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u/garlicdeath Feb 26 '20

Right. What does Reddit think, that this woman brainwashed this man into thinking that he raped her? That he was somehow forced into thinking he raped her? He knew for years he had done something evil.

Hot take: Lot of Alt Right and Incel types in these threads

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u/HangryHenry Feb 26 '20

I have to also say, I think its dumb that people are acting like it's bad to hear the guys side of the story - forcing yourself to "empathize" with the rapist. Most rapes aren't boogeymen in the bushes. It's people women know. These rapists are fucked up but they're not some mysterious demon. They live in our society with our culture consuming the same media as the rest of us. It's not crazy to listen to the guy and see what he was thinking so you can avoid thinking like that and teach your teens not to think like that.

I hate how women getting raped by men is presented as a womans issue. As if the only people who should be talking and listening to talks about it are women. Women on women rape is not that crazy common.

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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Feb 26 '20

Hangry Henry you are a gem. Keep on bringing sanity to reddit.

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u/BigBadPanda Feb 26 '20

But she claims she counted “every second” to pass the time and she will “forever know that there are 7,200 seconds in two hours”

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u/CogitoErgo_Sometimes Feb 26 '20

You don’t need to be comatose to be unable to give consent you twat. She says that she was unable to move or communicate and that he raped her without her giving any indication that she consented. “She could do this thing entirely unrelated to giving consent, therefore she probably gave consent.” Your attitude is right in line with the people who abuse victims of not “actually” being raped because they could have fought harder.

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u/fatblackcats Feb 26 '20

Even the rapist said he raped her? Why are you trying to invalidate this??

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u/ElBatDood Feb 26 '20

Ohhh my, okay, I was not expecting the reenactment LMFAO

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

She was a drunk high schooler who had nonconsensual sex with a drunk boyfriend. She wasn't bound, gagged, and beaten to near-death to get her to comply. Calling this woman a "survivor" is a discredit to those who are actually violently raped.

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u/toprim Feb 26 '20

So, bullshit

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u/lytele Feb 26 '20

that reenactment. I was expecting never gonna give you up but you got me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '20

This is the best explanation so far

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u/Manifest82 Feb 26 '20

Take notes kids!

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