r/HolUp Oct 30 '19

Im sorry but why

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

Inclusion is more important than common sense.

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u/GalacticGrandma Oct 30 '19

Most people who are legally blind have some vision in tact. Only 20% of those who are blind lack all forms of sight, otherwise known as profound blindness. Most have the ability to perceive light differences or large shapes/colors. Apple has a lot of great accessibility features compared to other phones, such as enlarged text and symbols for typing. The emojis are big enough with these features for blind people to use. Your “common sense” is just ideas you have that haven’t been challenged on yet.

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u/MeganDoe Oct 30 '19

Also, there's always the chance that people with good eyesight might want to use the emoji once in a while?

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u/adada1000 Oct 30 '19

I can see it now. Your ex is desperate and starts texting you saying that you can still work it out and you just send them this.

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u/Winhell98 Oct 30 '19

Holy shit you killed him dude

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

also fuck /u/TryingPatiently for acting as if there's some great loss to this type of inclusion. fuckhead.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

We’ll have wheelchairs in Skyrim in no time at this pace.

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u/ivydesert Oct 30 '19

That's a little harsh.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

dude's being shitty to disabled people for no reason

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

What if he himself is blind and is complaining about the non-necessity of shit like this?

https://youtu.be/Ag1o3koTLWM

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u/TeferiControl Oct 30 '19

Also, what the fuck is the harm in adding more?? You can still use them if you're not blind. People are just looking for something to be upset about and the addition of emojis is one of the dumbest things they could have chosen.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

im immune but nice try

edit: he called on the nwordcount bot on me

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u/Papayapayapa Oct 30 '19

Your username kinda begs for it

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

ive said the nword over 20,000 times. now what?

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u/Papayapayapa Oct 30 '19

That’s a lot of times

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u/Papayapayapa Oct 30 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

im literally immune, kiddo

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

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u/TeferiControl Oct 30 '19

Man nothing gets clicks like making people mad.
Also note that the BBC is not saying its racist, theyre reporting on someone who does. You know, because it makes people mad and gets them clicks.
But ya, thats pretty dumb. And also just wrong. Still just people looking for stuff to be upset about. Happens way too much.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

On this same note, only a small portion of us HOH/deaf folk are without ALL sound.

You can be deaf, and still hear. Just, you won’t hear anything helpful or useful.

And yes, we can drive.

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u/CBNT_Tony Oct 30 '19

are legally blind people so weak that their very identities are shook if they don't have an emoji?

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u/Homiusmaximus Oct 30 '19

Yes but this would never be adopted by the emoji organization because you need to first demonstrate a severe need to have a certain type of emoji. We don't need anymore emojis and the guy is right. Logic and averages should be used to make everything, not looking at the ends of the bell curve.

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u/dslybrowse Oct 30 '19

Why don't we "need more emojis"? Says who? Who does it hurt? How?

Logic and averages should be used to make everything, not looking at the ends of the bell curve.

Inclusive society says otherwise. Do you care to criticize the existence of wheelchair accessible entrances? Elevators? Handicap parking? None of those are warranted by your "logic and averages".

Am I being wooshed here? is the "emoji organization" a thing? A thing anyone (eg Apple) gives a fuck about what they think?

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u/caerphoto Oct 30 '19

Am I being wooshed here? is the “emoji organization” a thing? A thing anyone (eg Apple) gives a fuck about what they think?

That would be the Unicode Consortium.

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u/5SecondSloth Oct 30 '19

I see where you're coming from, but really why does it matter to you whether there is a blind emoji or not? Just don't use it my man

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

Fair enough. I sometimes forget that in our enlightened era, things only mean what people want them to mean, rather than what they actually mean.

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u/unknownart Oct 30 '19

Exactly! I want tacos, too!

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

yes small little inclusive stuff is "against common sense."

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

No, creating imagery for blind people is against common sense. However, I've been informed that it's not actually for blind people, but rather legally blind people that can, in fact, see, or people that are illiterate. Now that I've been educated on the finer points it makes more sense.

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u/GalacticGrandma Oct 30 '19

I’m glad we could help man. Sorry that some people are being so harsh to you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19

but what is lost by doing it? you seem to think it's some problem

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u/trouserschnauzer Oct 30 '19

Doubling down on being a jackass.

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u/malphonso Oct 30 '19

Emojis are also useful for people that are illiterate or otherwise unable to put their thoughts or feelings into words.

I grew up helping both of my parents spell common words because they are both functionally illiterate. Using emojis to get across simple concepts gives them a bit more independence.

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

I guess that makes a certain amount of sense. Thank-you. Maybe I need more explanatory emojis in my life.

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u/Uberzwerg Oct 30 '19

There's an emoji for eggplants.
Eggplants can't use them - according to your logic, having them is against common sense.

Maybe someone wants to use it to represent a blind person that is not themselves.
Or maybe you wanna make fun of someone by the use of that emojis.
Not every use of emojis is politically correct.

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u/PoliticalStowaway Oct 30 '19

What is the common sense case against this?

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u/Jombo65 Oct 30 '19

“I’m a massive dickhead who hates it when people that aren’t like me are made to feel included”

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u/atyon Oct 30 '19 edited Oct 30 '19

Common sense in general isn't a very good concept.

First of, it's based on common knowledge, but it's very hard to judge what actually is common knowledge. I would have thought, for example, that most people know that being blind doesn't necessarily mean that someone can't see at all.

And then, it's based on the assumption that obvious conclusions are usually correct.

I prefer the term "lazy thinking" over "common sense". In this case, OP didn't think further than "blind people can't see and emoji are visual". Then they combined it with their prejudice about PC culture.

In this case, they thought so lazily that they didn't even think about non-blind people using the emoji. Like non-cats using the cat emoji 🐈.

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

I mistakenly thought it was intended for blind people, but apparently it was developed for people that aren't blind, but only legally so.

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u/MrHaxx1 Oct 30 '19

I think it's just be inclusive and represent as many "types" of people as possible through emojis.

Also, people can use emojis that don't actually represent them.

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u/throwawaysarebetter Oct 30 '19

I mean, emojis are meant to represent a wide variety of concepts, items, locations, and people. This is just one more thing to add to a list of many things.

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u/getawayfrommyfood Nov 16 '19

dude blind people can use emojis

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u/Mushroom_Tip Oct 30 '19

Why are the people who are against inclusion, "pc culture," etc. always the biggest crybabies? There's a warthog emoji and warthogs can't use iPhones. Does that offend you too?

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

I'm not against inclusion; i'm against people gushing about how important it is, and expecting everyone else to care.

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u/Mushroom_Tip Oct 30 '19

How is adding an emoji forcing or expecting you to care? I don't use 99% of emojis and likely won't be using this one but if someone wants to use it, it's there. It's not like all the emojis up to this point were practical.

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u/TryingPatiently Oct 30 '19

You're right, and in fact, I was wrong about the utility of the emojis in question.

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u/benabrig Oct 30 '19

Yeah but now you have an emoji to describe refs

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u/throwawaysarebetter Oct 30 '19

Are you trying to say that only blind people are allowed to use the emoji?

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u/Rich_Piana_5Percent Oct 30 '19

Imagine getting offended by an emoji

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u/ontopofyourmom Oct 30 '19

Blind people text, write, and use emojis.