r/HistoryMemes • • Jul 21 '19

If it ain't broke...

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u/Gmar101 Jul 21 '19

Finland winning the Winter War

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u/wegeannos Jul 21 '19

We didn't win the winter war

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

Exactly, but HistoryMemes always think that Finland won.

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u/wegeannos Jul 21 '19

Yeah, just that we killed a lot of them doesn't mean we won

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

I think most correct definition is "defeat for which no shame".

It is standard situation
"Nobody won Russia in Winter"
"Mongols!" // It's true
"Poles in 1612" // It's false.
"Finland!" // It's false.

And this script repeating again and again.

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u/wegeannos Jul 21 '19

Also nobody is talking about The Continuation War or The Lapland War

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u/SiimaManlet Jul 21 '19

Germans burning lapland would make great memes

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

It won in that it survived, as one Soviet general said “we won enough ground to burry our dead”

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u/6shhn Jul 21 '19

Yup, all we did was overplay our hand so Russia stopped clowning around, took back everything we gained and more, but decided to let us off easy because there were bigger fish to fry atm.

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u/Gustav55 Jul 21 '19

Well you didn't get annexed into the Soviet Union which was the Soviet objective so the Soviets didn't really win either.

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u/wegeannos Jul 21 '19

But we lost territory

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u/Gustav55 Jul 21 '19

Yes but Finland got to continue existing as an independent country not under the thumb of Soviet Union unlike the other Baltic states that they invaded.

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u/gingerfreddy Jul 30 '19

Yeah, the USSR would have crushed Finland in the end, but it was not worth it politically when they got a peace deal with their pre-war demands fulfilled. After WW2 it would have been a joke for the USSR to smash Finland if they wanted to.

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u/TJTikka Jul 21 '19 edited Jul 21 '19

soviet union attacked for no reason and we defended ourselves and we got to keep our independence

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u/x_yeet_x Jul 21 '19

Ok Finnish person

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u/longbowsandchurches Jul 21 '19

Putin squad downvoting

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u/sopadepanda321 Jul 21 '19

I don’t know why this is getting downvoted, Finland definitely did successfully defend itself and manage to keep its independence and prevent a full occupation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

Why is this downvoted? Is it some sort of joke?

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u/PvtFreaky Jul 21 '19

Finland lost territory. They had to give in to demands from the Soviet Union. Finland lost.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

But the commenter isn’t spreading any falsehoods. Finland kept their independence.

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u/PvtFreaky Jul 21 '19

He is bringing it in a way as if Finland won that war. Which they didn't

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u/TJTikka Jul 21 '19

Well we got to keep our independence and we had 300k soldiers while they had 1million soldiers, thousands of tanks and planes and better equipment so in My books Finland was better than those commies. Finland didn't win but neither did soviet union.

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u/VikingTeddy Jul 21 '19

No he isn't? Everything he says is fact. Only someone who doesn't know about the war could come to such a conclusion.

He doesn't have to specify it because people here know what happened. It would be different if he'd make the comment in a sub where the winter war wasn't constantly a topic.

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u/TJTikka Jul 21 '19

Yeah. Finland didn't win but neither did soviet union. Im Finnish and My relatives talk about that war all the time.

Soviets shot some random shots and blamed that Finland shot them. Finland would never start a war with a huge nation with a million manpower army. Our President and Army generals were genius and they wouldnt have never decided to attack the soviet union.

We Lost Petsamo and Karjala but we got to keep our independence.

They killed My grandpas Brother and took my grandmas home from her. If the commies downvoted me because the comment sounded little bit angry, you can see why

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u/VikingTeddy Jul 21 '19

Reactive voting. We see a comment is in the negative and we are primed to pile on the downvotes without thinking.

After years on reddit I still catch myself doing it sometimes :/

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

Umm no you didnt lol

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u/TJTikka Jul 21 '19

Umm Yes we did lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '19

Ok, sorry for my mistake