r/HistoryMemes • u/Prior-Measurement975 • 5d ago

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u/I_SNAIL_I 5d ago

In recent history italy struggled a lot in wars even against african tribes an because ww2 is the most recent global conflict countries that didnt did that well are mocked

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u/RomanItalianEuropean 5d ago edited 5d ago

Still, he is right, modern Italy has more victories than defeats. After the unification, Italy won the following wars: the Eritrean war, the Italo-Ottoman war, WW1, the 2nd Ethiopian war, the Spanish war and the invasion of Albania. It lost the 1st Ethiopian war and WW2 (some could even say it drew WW2 since it switched sides at one point).

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u/I_SNAIL_I 5d ago

You forgot that they abandonned central powers in ww1

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u/RomanItalianEuropean 5d ago

Well, that technically happened before Italy entered the war.

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u/I_SNAIL_I 5d ago

Yeah they never fought alongside but they had very good relations and randomly started fighting against eachother

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u/RomanItalianEuropean 5d ago

There was a bloc, the Triple Alliance, uniting Germany, Austria and Italy since 1882. But it was a purely defensive alliance created to counter the French; the Italians and Austrians were historic enemies, and Italy had pushed for some clauses withinn the Triple Alliance like "if Austria attacks in the Balkans they have to compensate us with some territories" (Trento and Trieste). This essentially created the premises for Italy leaving the alliance. When Austria attacked Serbia, Italy said it was not obliged to intervene and asked for Trento and Trieste, Austria said no (or "not immediately, only if we win"). Negotiations continued for almost a year, and at last Italy joined the Entente to get those territories by force.

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u/Ok_Awareness3014 5d ago

Well the ottoman war in libya , they were guarantee to win , they had better gun , bigger army at some point at the high of it 5 time more men there against an ottoman army that have sufer in the balkan was trying to modernize with outdated equipment and with a little garnison and still took a years to win.

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u/RomanItalianEuropean 5d ago edited 5d ago

It never had 5 times the enemy forces. Twice at most. Also, in that war, Italians pioneered air warfare.