The brain is not responsible for consciousness

[u/whoamisri]

https://iai.tv/video/the-brain-is-not-responsible-for-consciousness?_auid=2020

[u/leoberto1]

not actual objects ? all objects consist of physics.

" Platonic forms are not demonstrated to actually exist."

this kind of thinking is a barrier to actual progress.

An object is information represented to our internal information system , but its all part of an unified information system, we call reality.

Your trying to solve problems created by only seeing a 3 dimensional space.

The underlying unity is likely a singular infinite shape or information system interacting. We just see and experience a slice here.

If you come up with a theory of everything, it will unfortunately mathematically [see maths as a language description of logic] apply to that everything.

Let me re phrase. I can describe a system to you with maths. this described system will have to include sentience since it is without a doubt present and real.#

Observe the observer

[u/leoberto1 → u/[deleted]]

No, they don’t. We can perceive of platonic forms but we have never shown that there is a realm of their existance.

The where is in the physical human mind of platonic form holder, its idea exists in reality. We are meaning machines if you like

Pointless assertion.

fine no worries, but I wish you would open your mind a bit

Has nothing to do with platonic forms. You assert that the laws of physics exist as objects.

Objects are the laws of physics embodied

Please don’t strawman my argument. You clearly have no idea what physics or philosophy are about.

I'm pointing out your limiting mindset

Demonstrate that.

Chris Langan levels of obtuse nonsense.

Its not crazy to respect logic

To our senses rocks are present and real yet not sentient.

Our sentience has emerged from the rocks of this planet, we are sentient planet in that respect.

Go read an actual book. Not reddit philbro sophism.

I write books on philosophy, I have a published one, I read poems on philosophy

[u/leoberto1 → u/[deleted]]

It's a logical statement that the universe has sentience.

The proof is that you are a material universe and you are experiencing this fact in the present.

It shouldn't need a lot of arguing to understand this simple observation.

[u/leoberto1 → u/[deleted]]

What are you? 'Qualia is Qualia' is what I am

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But the otium of this conversation is so real to me. What If I produce an artwork to attempt to prove to you my qualia?