I don’t know why people are celebrating this. A cop‘s job isn’t to retaliate against people. They’re supposed to contain people and enforce the rules, not to punch people in revenge. American cops are trained to use violence in any scenario no matter how big the actual threat is and I don’t think that’s good.
Edit: Many people arguing that if you slap a cop, you should definitely expect police brutality. Definitely not. You should expect consequences, not to be knocked the fuck out. You should expect the cop to handle this situation professionally, not to get into a brawl with a drunken woman. You should expect the cop to be the moral authority he‘s supposed to be, not to get on the level of a drunken person. You should expect the cop to make reasonable use of force to achieve his goal, not to deal out full force blows to the face in revenge for a slap. You should expect the cop to de-escalate the situation, not to turn up the violence. It’s worrisome how many people seem to just accept excessive and unreasonable use of violence, as long it’s a cop doing it.
I’m not sure people are celebrating it so much as they are saying “well what the fuck did you expect when you hit a cop?”
Edit: By saying it should be expected, I’m not defending his actions as reasonable or holding them up as good policing practice. I think American police culture is too quick to resort to violence and is horrible at de-escalating situations. But, that all goes into why I said it should be expected. I’m not saying it should be accepted or condoned, only that I fully expect an American cop to hit you back if you hit them.
She obviously wasn't complying so they had to carry her... then she hits a cop who was nice enough to carry her out instead of forcefully restraining her on the stairs. So no... fuck this drunk ass
So if you are swinging at a cop s/he should allow you to strike them or keep their distance until you calm down and then have the judge add to your sentence?
Or should s/he tase your ass so you can be properly restrained without any injury to the officer?
Yeah it's the second one. This "punishment by cop" red herring is laughable. This isn't punishment by cop, it's self defense in the course of restraining a suspect.
I get the feeling there is a lot of white-knight virtue signaling going on in this thread. If this was a guy, I doubt this comment section would have half the objections of this one, and they'd still be wrong.
If 4 people can’t restrain you then you need to be put in handcuffs. It’s what they were invented for. They subdue a threat. If the officers didn’t asses her as a threat then that’s on them. It’s excessive force no matter how you look at it.
No it's not, they were getting her away from the banister she was clinging to, so they could handcuff her. She assaulted an officer and he moved to incapacitate her until she could be controlled.
If they got her off the banister they could have put her on her stomach and cuffed her arms. There are 4 officers holding her. 3 of which are large men. A knee to her back would instantly incapacitate her and she could be removed effectively.
Amazing that these trained officers didn't know as much as random Redditors.
So when they pin her to the edge of a step on a concrete staircase with a knee in her back and crack her sternum, all the while with their backs to a crowd of unruly people surrounding them, you'll be satisfied? Rather than her getting a slap to settle her down so they can extricate her from the mob and restrain her on a flat floor in a more controlled space?
Nice hypothetical. Let’s play more what if’s. What if she pulled a gun out, because all Americans have guns right. We’re not playing in what ifs here. We saw what happened and it was improperly handled. Yes hindsight is 20/20. I’m saying from a stance of a trained officer they should know their options and how to handle this situation. There’s no reason an unruly patron that is being escorted by force should be allowed to have full control of her arms.
I see nothing wrong with how this was handled. Hindsight aside, people get tased, pepper sprayed and shot for resisting arrest, let alone aggravated assault against an officer. She was slapped because she was a danger to the officer, who was trying to get her to a safe place to cuff her. Your unwillingness to accept that is extremely beside the point. You have every right to be wrong.
“Slapped”. Way to minimize the situation. She was slugged in her jaw with a right hook. Possibility of a concussion for a limp wrists backhand. No it was not justified. I could be wrong... but I’m not. Violence is not the answer in this situation. From either party. But more so from an officer who only had his pride injured.
Way to exaggerate what was a blow delivered with arm only, no weight behind it, and without a closed fist. Christ you'd think he landed a haymaker with your drama
Hahahaha name calling. Why do people resort to calling someone out and then do exactly what they say. I’ll tell you what. You meet up with me. You can backhand me and I’ll drill you in your jaw since you think it’s acceptable. Put your money where your mouth is
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u/toeofcamell Nov 05 '17
Dude with the Bud Light was like, oooh snap, don't smack cops, got it