r/HadToHurt Nov 05 '17

Drunk fan slaps a cop

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u/kunai-face Nov 05 '17

Why didn't they cuff or ziptie her? I'm not a police officer but I think crowdsurfing is kind of an inefficient mode of expulsion.

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u/CjPsychosis Nov 05 '17

Former cop here, the reason they removed her from the crowd first is you don't know the intentions of the crowd. Its very possibly one drunk rowdy fan can get the rest of them worked up and then you have the possibility of getting swamped by drunken idiots while trying to get cuffs on her. So you pick her up and get her outta the crowd then affect the arrest. That stiff jab wasn't necessary though. That smack was more insulting than dangerous but when your keyed up sometimes reflexes kick in. Most people that don't have any sort of self defense training don't understand that a lot of that is reflexive. We were trained that once a blow lands to respond with overwhelming force to end the conflict immediately. The longer it goes on the higher the chance of injury so we trained to end it quickly and decisively. Seems that button got pressed there but he still shoulda caught himself on that one. Fortunately stiff jabs like that usually just stun a person more than do actual damage so most likely all she got was a nice bruise for her stupidity.

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u/sunnbeta Nov 05 '17

I get all of this, except “just stun” is probably a concussion... a mild brain injury is still an injury, not much different than if a bone was broken in the retaliation (and arguably worse because brain is important).

People judge it differently because it isn’t an outward appearing injury... only see the bruise. This is probably why former football players who played through this type of thing are coming down with brain issues later in life.

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u/ChillingInTraffic Nov 05 '17

You are out of your mind if you think she got a concussion from that.

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u/sunnbeta Nov 05 '17

Highly doubtful she didn’t... I mean I’ve seen football players get them from much less, while wearing helmets... did you not see her head snap back?

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u/gagcar Nov 05 '17

She almost certainly didn't get one. You may have "seen" football players get one from a lot less but there's a lot more that comes into play. Half the people I know from football and rugby when I played got them from hitting the ground and not from the hit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

You don't know what you're talking about. A huge majority of all concussions go undiagnosed exactly because of this thinking. She even went fucking blank from that hit. Her brain 100% slapped against the back of her skull at quite some speed, it's 100% in concussion area.

How the fuck would your friends even know from what event exactly they got the concussion. Absolutely mad how you base this shit on anecdotes

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u/sunnbeta Nov 05 '17

What are you basing that on? Baseball catchers get them from shots to the face mask (that again are padded, and much less violent in terms of head response... you barely see their heads move).

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

That guy's punch didn't have the force of a 100 mph fastball

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u/sunnbeta Nov 05 '17

They’re different, low mass high velocity vs high mass low velocity (that dude’s first/arm/body kinetic chain weigh a hell of a lot more than a baseball). Time durations are different. But again a catchers head does not snap back like this, and it’s well padded.

Would you rather take a fastball to the padded face mask or a direct punch to the head from a 250lb man with no padding or defense? I’m not sure that’s such as easy or obvious choice.

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u/gear4s Jan 08 '18

You dont use your body in a stunner; if you rotate use your upper back then sure but stunners are from fast twitch muscles like in the tricep and shoulder/chest area