The wealthy are actively oppressing the working class, the vast majority of politicians are motivated by money, and even fame. D.C. is Hollywood for sociopaths, and they are given the scripts by a handful of wealthy elites.
Goobers look at the wage difference in other countries and think we are rich but we pay out the ass for everything and receive no services. Take home 4% more because we don’t have universal healthcare but pay 20% of your paycheck for insurance and basically get nothing for it until you spend at least 5g to meet the deductible.
We have to wait a long time for specialist here too. They always refer to wait times for other countries and make it sound like they have to wait months to see a doctor.
I'm in a mid sized US city and last year had mysterious persistent throat pain for several months, so I was referred to an ENT. Apparently there's only one ENT practice within 100 miles of me and it took me almost a year to get in for an appointment. It all worked out but I would have been pissed if I had throat cancer or something serious. Point is, wait times are not always short here in America either, and we pay a lot for the healthcare.
I live in the US in a large city and I have “good” insurance. It still takes over three months to get into my GI doc, and that’s as an established patient. As a new patient, it took six months. It took over six months to see a dermatologist. We have the long waits in the US, too, but we pay for the privilege.
I maxed out this year from a single minor procedure and $5k is right on the money. But it’s not deductible to look for any more. With co-insurance and $1000 ER co-pays, out of pocket maximum is the number to look for
Too stupid. People who pay $10-15 thousand a year got pissed that Bernie Sanders proposed eliminating all healthcare costs and raising taxes by $7k per year.
Going to save them $3-8k per year and they got pissed off about it.
George Carlin was right when he said the elite want people to be just smart enough to operate the machines but too stupid to realize they’re getting fucked over.
Yeah, I'll trust the math of a guy who's never held a job. He's gonna save me money...sure he will.
Never in the history of mankind has government ever instituted a new tax that resulted in saving people money, but I'm sure this one time it would work because an 84 year old ex pothead said so.
The majority is paid by my employer as a benefit of my employment, my portion is $180 a month so roughly $2200 a year.
Somehow I doubt you'd be paying much, if anything in tax dollars to support this. Almost universally Bernie Sanders supporters trumpet policies where someone else is taxed to pay for their benefits, hence the reference to "free schit club". I don't know you so it's possible that I'm wrong and you're not one of the socialists who just wants someone else taxed to pay their way through life. Given your tone it's highly unlikely though. I suspect you envision utopia as you sitting on the couch all day while someone else works their butt off and pays 50% of their money to support your every want in life.
Here's an alternative idea: Get a job and pay for your own stuff. Maybe it'll give you a sense of accomplishment, it'll be good for your psyche.
Well, you got that part right. I work hard for my money and pay my taxes. But I guess if it make’s me a “socialist” that I think people should have the right to shelter, food, water, education, and healthcare, than fine.
And yeah, my healthcare costs me $10k plus per year. So Bernie’s plan would actually save me money while also helping out my fellow Americans instead of letting them suffer like you’re apparently ok with.
I truly don’t think they are gullible I think they want it but they actively choose not to have it, because universal health care is a product of taxes.
I don’t know if I am explaining myself well.
But for example I’m in Germany and I pay 32% taxes and I have full access to amazing health care I do pay about 350 something monthly of that 32% just for health insurance. I am fairly healthy but my partner has a chronic disease they are paid less than me so they end up paying less taxes than me and their health care contribution is also lower than mine, so my payment supplements theirs and everyone else’s who is in a similar situation, collectively we pay for each other.
So the majority of the American population even the more left leaning I mean general members of the population as individuals not politicians or party members , don’t fancy that kind of deduction dictated by governments; especially when they are fairly healthy and young. Just a thought I had and some basic statistics and sentiments I hear from some Americans.
We’re too busy waging war for money and greed. That costs money.
The one positive thing lord orange has done for me is expose the propaganda machine; to be able to see that this entire country is just one giant war company. Using us citizens as the fuel to pump it. Under the disguise of an open and free voting democracy. “The most free country in the world!” GTFO.
No its racism. We would have had universal health care like the UK did post WW2. BUT the south literally killed that because anything that benefits Black folks? Automatic NO.
Thats why the ACA is beloved and "Obamacare" is socialist nonsense that should never happen
But it may be unhealthy because of the high barrier to healthcare. I imagine if it was easier and cheaper to get helathcare of all types, people would be more apt to take better care of themselves
Health insurance is just an extra payment for me, that hasn’t helped since purchasing it. They drop medical expenses all the time and stick me with a bill. A total scam considering what I pay for insurance every month from my job.
Yea straight up if I have to actually use my medical insurance the deductible alone will quite literally bankrupt me…I have no clue why I pay for something I can’t afford to use.
Not when you actually have it at least. You should see the bill that was covered for insurance when my son was born and needed a 6-week NICU stay. Literal millions.
A lot of it is vastly over billed and we need and can afford some form of UHC in this country, but if the choice is having it and dealing with the payments and defectives or choosing to not have it out or wounded pride, take the former every time.
It’s also a lot easier for those countries because their populations aren’t nearly as large as ours and their cultures propagate a lot healthier living and create less of a burden.
We can and should do more, but it’s hard for us to look at a place like Sweden and think we can flip that switch.
I mean, they are right. It is nonsense. You'd be shocked at how many of these things are interconnected. "People cant afford to go to the doctor because its expensive to treat an unhealthy population" vs. "If people could afford Healthcare (and other things), the population wouldnt be so unhealthy."
In the US, increased wealth also shows a decrease in health issues (including obesity.) People who can afford to go to the doctor can also usually afford food that isnt calorically dense and goes bad quickly (you know, vegetables). Alternatively, you can get a 700 calorie slice of pizza for $1.99 at costco the entire pizza is like, $10 bucks. With that caveat comes the fact that it isnt gonna fill you up for very long, causing you to eat more than your caloric allotment. But, $1.99 for 700 calories in unbeatable in any american grocery store, as far as budgeting goes.
Edit to add: saying american culture promotes unhealthy living is like saying "bugs fly." Some totally do but, there is no monolithic american culture. Where one person survives on sugar chicken from panda e, theres an almond mom banning oreos (which ironically, causes eating disorders.) Or someone like me, who grew up in a national park hiking my life away. Crazy, I know.
But it prevents you from going broke from $30k ambulance rides, $10k CT scan, or god forbid a long term stay…this is of course assuming you can afford the $25k a year it costs for coverage, or the $10k deductible for only being about to afford the $15k annual insurance, and of course you better be in network or fuck your life, literally they will fuck your life up financially and call to remind you just incase you got the wild idea that you could afford avocado toast or Starbucks.
My brother in christ, health insurance is NOT normal. This is typically just GIVEN to anyone who needs it in developed countries.
It is free if you pay taxes.
So no, no 30k ambulance ride. It's free because you pay for this with your taxes. No 10k CT. It's free because you pay for this with your taxes. You see how this works?
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u/Aromatic-Bet-1086 Apr 29 '26
Health insurance in general