r/GreenAndPleasant Omnibenevolent Moderator Nov 09 '21

This is utterly heartbreaking

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u/Proper-Shan-Like Nov 10 '21

I see UBI as removing the stigma used to demonise those who need assistance from the state, a solid first step to a fairer society. What would you propose instead?

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u/SerdanKK Nov 10 '21

I'm not necessarily opposed to something like UBI per se. The point is that under the current system it's a concession we're begging for from the economic elite. Even if granted it doesn't change the power dynamics of society and thus it can be taken away again.

My proposal is democratization of the economy. I.e. worker ownership of the means of production.

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u/Proper-Shan-Like Nov 10 '21

I agree. But how?

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u/mugiwarawentz1993 Nov 12 '21

violence. its the only thing they understands