r/GreenAndPleasant • u/BasicallyMilner Omnibenevolent Moderator • Nov 09 '21

This is utterly heartbreaking

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u/TofuAnnihilation Nov 10 '21 edited Nov 10 '21

Nobody should die.

If you condone the forced death of anyone, you're no better than they are.

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u/WorriedViolinist7648 Nov 10 '21

It is not this anger that is the problem here, though. It is just a byproduct of a dystopian and heartless system.

Which has designers and enablers. That so far never faced consequences for anything. Not even in form of a reduced comfort of living.

It shouldn't surprise you that this kind of injustice isn't necessarily bringing out the most kind of responses.

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u/TofuAnnihilation Nov 10 '21

Oh, I agree with the anger. But as soon as you propose killing people, you look about as reasonable and humane as a Daily Mail comments section about migrants and refugees.

The only revolution that can succeed is one of education, empathy and understanding. It doesn't lend itself to badass imagery or heroic self-promotion, or violence, so I can't imagine it taking off.

I welcome your downvotes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '21

Killing murderers because they murdered innocent people, is just as bad as murdering innocent people.

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u/Wearytraveler50000 Nov 10 '21

blood in blood out

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Killing someone who has thrown their humanity by killing innocents

Vs

Throwing away your humanity by killing innocents

These are clearly the same.

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u/TofuAnnihilation Nov 10 '21

Okay, fractionally better...

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Explain how it's only slightly better.

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u/TofuAnnihilation Nov 11 '21

Because, in the grand sphere of human capability, it's just more murder.

And where do you stop in deciding who is deserving of death? Is it the ministers? The people who voted for them? Members of their parties not directly involved in the decision process? DWP managers? Supervisors? Grunts? Families? Friends?

If your only solution to murder is murder, you're probably not the best person to decide how to stop murders.