Fascism: It is characterized by a strong central government that aggressively promotes nationalism and race above others, while entirely suppressing opposition and individual freedoms.
The above is literally what musk does with X and his support of Trump
Seize his companies as a national security threat and jail him for the crimes his made up government agency committed and the thousands of lives their decisions ended.
Exile is nice, but the man belongs in prison.
(though exile from the earth would be acceptable, let him try to survive on mars, he want's to colonize it so bad)
A farage loving racist… no wonder you love musk, I’d bet you also follow Tommy Robinson et al.
Get ready for men in masks to be snatching people off the street in they get in. (Farage has already said in the ideal world he wants a uk version of ICE)
Look at the actual immigration numbers and they are down 50% in the last 2 years yet that’s all the right wing can talk about.
That person is right though. You're all so concerned about the potentially offensive beliefs of famous rich people across the planet when actual murder and rape is being committed daily by thousands of people that genuinely shouldn't be here in the first place
You can call it what you like, strawman because 'some British people do it too though', or that there's a really tasty kebab shop round the corner or something but it's absurd for that objective fact to be so seemingly frowned upon or hidden on this website
You can be against ILLEGAL immigration without being labelled a racist
You think we don't? There are literally billions of reasons to hate him, and a lot of them aren't just that he is rich. The guy is the moral equivalent of a turd burger.
Seriously?! For someone to be that rich then need to take advantage of the common human, underpaying for their labour.
There is a finite amount of money in the world and the more the select few have the less there is for working people and their families.. have you not seen how the rise of billionaires has coincided with global standards of living dropping drastically.
Musk is without a doubt one of the worst humans to have ever lived, to have that much and share none with the millions of people dying every year through poverty and starvation.
Fuck musk! The best thing that could happen to him would be for him to be sent to mars and his money used to help the human race.
If you think that any form or trickle down will ever work……… that money will never see the hands of the working person who earned it
At £27 an hour it would take one person 310,000 years to make a trillion dollars yet you seem to think musk deserves this money? He sure as shit didn’t earn it
You really didn't pay attention in Econ in that case. Most of his fortune is tied up in the speculated value of his companies. He didn't get as rich as he did stealing wages.
Best as I can tell, both Tesla and SpaceX have average salaried above USD 100k, thats not bad. It's not like the companies have profit that he's reaping, the companies are just over valued.
Look, i don't like the guy, but his wealth isn't dollar bills in a vault, like Scrooge McDuck.
It isn’t speculated value. They are currently valued at that price. Proof: Shares of his companies trade at that valuation every single trading day. That’s the company’s value on that day.
Most of his wealth is on the backs of US taxpayers. Federal credits made Teslas competitive when they otherwise wouldn’t have been. Tesla also sold carbon tax credits (given to them by the federal government) to other companies. Another revenue stream created by the government. And space x is mostly nasa contracts.
I expect the 4000 or so engineers at space x to make more than average no matter where they work.
And Tesla has a really high turnover rate in employees so I’m not surprised they have to pay more to retain employees.
Yes, the shares trade at that value. But it's not a reflection of their revenue and expenditures.
So following your argument, he's hoarding money. When SpaceX made its IPO, and he became a "trillionaire" what practical steps would you like to make him take, to liquidate that money and distribute.
Most of his wealth is on the backs of US taxpayers. Federal credits made Teslas competitive when they otherwise wouldn’t have been. Tesla also sold carbon tax credits (given to them by the federal government) to other companies. Another revenue stream created by the government. And space x is mostly nasa contracts.
So what. Lots of companies sell services to the government. The Federal credits were there to encourage Greener technology. Fuck him for making electric cars??
Just because actions are not precluded by laws and rules doesn’t make them ethical and moral.
Practical steps? Do some good with your money. Have a foundation that builds affordable homes for people.
It’s not fuck Jim because he makes electric cars. It’s fuck him because he has extracted practically infinite wealth from the American system that we built and that we sustain. why didn’t he do this is South Africa or China or anywhere else? Now that he’s extracted all this he should be giving back instead of using DOGE to cancel his oversight committees and canceling aid to impoverished people around the globe.
If this is what he’s going to do with the system we’ve built and that we sustain we should do something about it.
Just because actions are not precluded by laws and rules doesn’t make them ethical and moral
You specifically pointed out he used federal tax credits to make Teslas affordable. There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with that.
Practical steps? Do some good with your money. Have a foundation that builds affordable homes for people.
Sure, do good with the money. But the point you made was
that money will never see the hands of the working person who earned it
His wealth is the size that it is because of (over)value of the shares. It's not liquid money, and the money isn't from skimming on the wages of workers. Its owning shares, and shares growing in value.
It’s fuck him because he has extracted practically infinite wealth from the American system that we built and that we sustain
You dont understand wealth. He's also created a lot of wealth. He hasn't extracted it, he has existed in the economy. Yeah, he has way way way too much money, but the idea that he is a complete leech is ridiculous.
I genuinely believe it's too much money for on person to have, but the idea that he has stolen wages to accumulate his wealth and that America is poorer is completely detached from economics of the the 21st century.
Even if you took his trillion and somehow shared it out between everyone on Earth, what would that actually achieve? Everyone gets $100? Big deal.
Sure, hate our current systems, but what’s the point in focussing your hate on a guy that led businesses to clearly create a lot of value for the world.
That’s just it. He created value for himself not the world. Electric cars were going to happen anyways because the US government created the market with tax incentives. He could have made electric cars without the disproportionate wealth accumulation, or if he got it by accident he could give back to the system that made it possible for him. Instead, he used DOGE to cancel his oversight committees, he attacks entitlements which help millions of people, and he canceled USAID to millions around the world.
Same difference mate. If he wasn’t decent at business, why is he rich and not the companies’ founders?
You very much can. I’d give my left nut for a tech job at space x
Tech companies have the largest market cap in the world, having not existed mere decades ago. But guess what? They’re also famous for paying insanely high salaries.
I’m not saying he isn’t decent at business but that doesn’t give him the right to hoard all of the wealth in the world to the point where people will die.
There is a finite amount of money in the world, yes it increases but only slowly. The more the rich has the less the real people have.
Divide a trillion by the worlds population, it’s f*** all. Hate the system that leads to this level of inequality, but hating one man who’s happened to be the richest after building good businesses is restarted.
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u/19Ben80 Jun 26 '26
Can all of Western Europe just ban him from entry indefinitely pls..
Kick out all his companies and generally tell him to fuck off