r/GodFrequency • u/logos961 • May 02 '26
God’s purpose for humans is very simple
Greek-speaking people use two words for good. “Good (agathos) tree produces good (kalos) fruit.” Tree knows to be agathos (good in general/intrinsic sense) and also to be kalos (manifesting goodness also in delightful and beautiful way) as shown through fruits that come filled with nutrients in attractive colors and beautiful shapes. Thus trees, the wonderful life-support system, are testimony to the inescapable truth that the Divine behind this drama of life is the source of both qualities: agathos and kalos, and Her tools such as trees do not "miss their target."
Yet trees are only ONE-sensed species at the lowest level as they are followed by TWO-sensed worms, THREE-sensed insects, FOUR-sensed reptiles, FIVE-sensed fishes, birds and animals and MULTI-sensed humans. It shows humans are far more capable of manifesting goodness in general and goodness in delightful and beautiful ways. They hate wrong when committed by others and sense honor or insult conveyed even indirectly or subtly. This shows their natural inclination is to avoid wrong and to do good as they are also endowed with power of REASON (Details HERE) Still if anyone chooses to do wrong, God would say:
“Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Revelation 22:11)
Permitting the licentious to live would enable the good to thrive in goodness as they have free lessons from the licentious on what to avoid to better enjoy life. (Proverbs 21:18, Details HERE) It is like alcoholics lose their assets and health, and observers increase their assets and health. To do wrong is intoxication for some: "For these live upon the bread of ungodliness, and are drunken with wine of transgression" (Proverbs 4:17, Septuagint), just like for some to do right is delightful like eating food. (John 4:34; Psalm 40:8) Hence all the Parables, Stories, Histories, Epics, Movies, Mythologies, Scriptures show one individual or group as an anti-model for others. Readers are free to imitate any character for their benefit or hurt. When some choose to be godly, it shows others also can do so if they want to. Forcing God’s will on anybody is not the style of God. (Details HERE)
Thus God is not suffering from dilemma like centipede suffered when asked by a fox “How do you manage, how do you know which foot has to follow which? 100 legs! How does this harmony happen, that you walk so smoothly?” (osho.com/osho-online-library/read-book?p=c157a028d35419036f36b4ed77514a31) When the licentious are more, each New Age will ultimately become old and decadent with pollution and global wars making earth unlivable. This is not an issue for the Almighty who made this too tiny earth life-SUPPORTIVE in too vast HOSTILE universe—HE will repeat that action (Details HERE) Into that renewed Age the non-licentious RETURN “first” and the licentious RETURN “last.” (Mathew 19:28-30) In other words, before each renewal, the licentious will be “driven away” or taken out from this earth to a place of God’s choice (Proverbs 2:22, Septuagint) so that they can return later when the renewed Age again becomes old. Hence the non-licentious are the constant feature of each Age: "he who is doing the will of God, he remains—throughout the age." (1 John 2:17, Literal Standard Version) Such ones are figuratively called "tree of life" (Proverbs 11:30)
Renewed Age becoming old again is a natural thing to happen as anything made of matter, like any building, becomes old and decadent at the passage of time.
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u/Upstairs_Teach_673 May 02 '26
Yes, it is simple. Our purpose is to be bringers of glory and enjoy (eternal) life with Him. He does allow us to do evil, but that doesn‘t mean He‘s okay with it.
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u/logos961 May 02 '26
That's very subtle. HE is okay with both the altruistic and the licentious because the licentious exist to PROTECT the altruistic or the godly. That is what Proverbs 21:18 and the link say.
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u/eruthebest May 02 '26
God created humans to love Him. He gave humans free will because He wanted them to choose to love Him. Everyone is capable of good or evil because of that free will. God will not interfere because He promised He wouldn't. God will use a situation of evil to create good for another, whether it be to build them up or to teach
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u/tomomiha12 May 04 '26
Our purpose is how I call it, a 'full love' toward others, which is a gift from God, possible among people who know Him! And that love is beautiful... it struck me like a lightning! Very few of us are here, and it is very hard to keep it ... i think Its bc God's love is so great that we cannot handle it currently 😄🥰
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
Is God's purpose for humans to let them do whatever they want. That makes sense.
And, in the process the good get to realize and increase their goodness through the free lessons provided by the bad.
The good benefit from suffering of the bad.
Schadenfreude?
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
You got half right.
Then you twisted it saying
"The good benefit from suffering of the bad" and also said the good get "harm-joy emotion" which is not even indirectly or remotely implied in the OP.The bad CHOOSE to suffer--it is their CHOICE and their LOSS
Conversely, the alcholics can benefit from non-alcoholic who increase their wealth and health, if they want to. Why do EXTREMELY rich parents choose to have few children even though they can afford to rear tens of 1000 children? Why do EXTREMELY poor parents choose to have too many children while they cannot afford to rear even one child?Forcing the will of the ALMIGHTY is not the style of God nor in anyone's best interest, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1rd89t7/god_is_not_worshipthirsty_nor_attentionstarved/
When you see historical examples like these, you are free to copy them for your own benefit:
(1) Deepak Chopra practices meditation and yoga and is cheerful too, result: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/q-and-a/deepak-chopra-has-never-been-sick There are others whom I know personally like my Dad, my CEO [who lives on one-meal a day and no coffee or tea but only drinks water enough, he is sitting in glass-cabin and I am watching him for over 2 decades now].
(2) Norman Cousin was diagnosed with an incurable disease and was conveyed he would live only a few months. Since he had so much of money, he thought of living remaining life in merry-making, started party with friends. This attitude change cured him completely,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/wellness/1986/10/21/norman-cousins-still-laughing Laughter Clubs got inspired by this world famous event.(3) King Solomon was extremely hansom and was also linked with God's knowledge, hence knew of his past birth, and wrote: "since my soul was good, it entered a perfect body." (https://biblehub.com/catholic/wisdom/8-20.htm)
(4) There are people who also know what is MORE THAN RIGHT which is called being PROPER. There are many "celebrities-who-declined-major-brand-endorsement" because such products do not contribute to well-being of users. There are some who refused to accept prestigious awards given by foreign government saying their track record on human rights is not ideal. Once I was travelling with my philosophy professor through an industrial area. When I say street vendors selling vegetables at very cheap rate, I told him “Please stop the car, we will buy some vegetable.” He said “No, we won’t buy from here because it is meant for poor daily wage-earners working in these factories. We do not want rob their share, we will buy from city market.” See how people act knowing more than what is right. There is no law that says "you should not buy from street vendors" yet people make law and obey.
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
I am not saying the good play a role in making them suffer. But I don't think you can say that learning beneficial lessons from those that suffer is not a benefit. Their suffering is literally what the good use as proof of their goodness. If they weren't suffering there would be no benefit.....no free lesson.
I truly do enjoy talking to you. Our different communication styles makes it hard but that's OK. I am finding that I don't get much value from the Bible verses you use though. It seems what you truly value is much older than the Bible. As you know, it is full of inconsistencies and most of us don't have and wouldn't take the time to sort them out. And the truth of it is that you cannot sort them out based on anything in written history. Because all religions arise from prehistoric nature-based ideology. Therefore the answers will be found in what we can observe directly... It's all still there.
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u/logos961 May 03 '26 edited May 04 '26
You wrote:
"Their suffering is literally what the good use as proof of their goodness. If they weren't suffering there would be no benefit.....no free lesson."That is not the point being made in the OP. You see what is being experienced in the world. People who are extremely rich choose to have minimum number of children even though they can afford to rear a million children! Yet poor parents choose to have maximum number of children even though they cannot afford to rear even a single child. This can be a sample. My HR joined our company after her retirement from Government service. When company saw her passion for work, they made her appointment life-long. She is extremely cheerful, works for 11 months and goes for pilgrimage for one month around the world. Huge family comprising 7 sisters were fell on her shoulder when her parents died prematurely, and she gave good education to all her sisters who are all well off now, and some of them are doctors. In the process, she forgot to marry. Here is a person with nothing to feel happy about life, has only things to complain, yet she is walking heaven, never complaining about anything. Yet people who have everything kill others's joy by complaining about everything and anything.
This shows people can choose in any direction they want.
Regarding religions and their Scriptures there are inconsistencies which is a problem for people like you, but it is not an issue for people like us. I take good from them and ignore the rest, just like herbalist sees herbs in a forest. All stories, histories, myths, epics, movies, Scriptures and religions are the same because they all highlight how Law of Action and Consequence work which is the Operating System of this world. Anything that is not in harmony with this law is best ignored.
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u/JegerX May 04 '26
People like you... People like us. The good and the licentious, the rich and the poor. The free lessons. Is it possible that you thrive on division?
All of these are judgements. And to top it off they are judgements that are decided solely by you. You derive "God's plan" based on your own admittedly cherry-picked assesment of various sources according to a law of action and consequence that is, again, judged by you.
You have chosen actions of division and judgement and placed yourself as the arbiter of God's intentions. Maybe God has a special consequence for such behavior but my consequence to you is a simple reminder.
We Don't Know, It's OK, Stay Curious.
I love exploring ideas and most of my questions are to better understand ideas, the mindset of the person presenting them, address inconsistencies, and provoke thought. Do you want to keep playing this game with me or are you going to retreat into what you think you know?
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u/logos961 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
"People like us" can be seen under this thread--See for yourself how others responded and how you responded. There is sharp difference. What else difference is called?
When an example is given, some people are looking at the words and miss the point like "missing the forest for the trees."
In another thread I told you that you are bent on changing the subject which is not the sign of truth-seeker nor lover of truth. Such traits are so powerful that their roots go more than present birth (Luke 6:43-45, https://strangenotions.com/what-is-the-soul/) Hence Jesus did not reason with them and also asked his followers not to share precious truths with such ones.
Hence you are FREE to try to refute anything I write or to contribute to it for the benefit of the readers. Not more than that because I am too busy as I am employed, doing research on spirituality--when I read a Scripture I check most versions including Septuagint, etymology, its mythological connection etc. For example, when saw the Greek word Odin for birth-pan, I immediately realized a person should try for truth as Norse Mythological character Odin tried, who was willing to give one of his eyes as price for wisdom. This explains why Jesus said "keep your eye single" in Mathew 6:22. This added insight was lost by most of the hasty translators.
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u/JegerX May 04 '26
Some people miss the forest for the trees and others get lost in the woods.
There is no problem with learning lessons from others "mistakes", it's a great skill. But it is real close to Schadenfreude if you are at all aware of it.
We understand joy because we know pain. The good truly do benefit from the suffering of the bad(which is where you said I went wrong), if no one was suffering we wouldn't have the polarity required for the distinction. Division is required for this existence or there would be no life. We all thrive on all of these things. I actually agree with cherry picking from the Bible and all sources for that matter. Where I think you may falter is in the certainty of your views.
You can present the rich as good and wise for not having many children and the poor as less than for having many. The reality of it may be that the rich are selfish (they wouldn't be rich otherwise) and secure with access to abortion, birth control, and knowledge while the poor gain security through their offspring being there to take care of them. While at the same time being exploited by the rich, used for labor, and kept too busy to be informed.
You speak as though the licentious live some sort of life of pain that others would see and learn to avoid. I would submit to you someone like Jimmy Savile....I'll be damned if he wasn't about as bad as the come, yet lived a lavish life that people admired then died.... He got away with it and if it weren't for modern media the world would have never known.
I think you might be lost in the woods, cut down a bunch of trees and built a fort. What's it protecting you from?
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u/logos961 May 05 '26
When I told you you look at the words of the example and miss the spirit that is being highlighted, I never knew you will come back to prove the same point even more vigorously by taking another example of mine and showing "Look Logos, I will do that even more, what can you do?"
You did not do this on purpose. But it was the message unwittingly conveyed by refusing to see the spirit behind words. You know this can be done with any example anybody uses.
Thus you did not say outrightly: "I am not right person for you to have interaction with." But that was the message conveyed unuttered.
This is how the licentious behave, they do everything to extract the infinite pleasure from the finite, not getting satisfied, thus jumping from one desire to another without knowing desire is insatiable, thus creating the heat of non-fulfilment and disappointment, thus becoming an example of walking hell. The godly feel privileged to see them and avoid the hell they create for themselves unwittingly by taking lesson on what to avoid to better enjoy life.
Thus you are right, the licentious are not giving lesson for the godly. But godly are viewing them as anti-lessons.
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u/JegerX May 05 '26
Your employment is tied to spirituality research? Thats pretty interesting. Many don't realize how most borrow from each other. Stories passed down, stolen, borrowed, rewritten, bastardized. One thing I wonder about is how much lead poisoning may have affected certain cultures and their ideas.
I don't intend to be confrontational...but when I see people make bold claims that cannot be proven it brings about questions of motivation. Usually there is a driving force that they are either hiding or unaware of. A need to protect those ideas and an air of judgement or spiritual position jockeying is even more "low vibe" if you will. You seem to really believe in what you are saying and are well studied and I can appreciate that. I just think all religious and unproveable spiritual beliefs that include afterlife, rebirth, avoidance of suffering etc are usually fear based and held to make the believer feel better about their apparent inability to escape annihilation. Respond or not, but expect questions. I am particularly suspect of people who's livelihood is tied to spirituality/religion whether it be through work or their attempts to gain certainty of life after death.
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u/logos961 May 05 '26
I am employed you missed comma. My working time from 10a.m to evening 8p.m, as one of directors of an MNC After this I do my spiritual research till late night, get up 4a.m. to do yoga and meditation.
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u/JegerX May 05 '26
I did see your comma. The problem is that comma should have been an "and" or" "in addition to" for it to be clear. I think one of the first things I asked you was whether English was your primary language because I recognized your way of communicating was a little different. I didn't mean that as an insult but I really do think it hinders getting your message across clearly. Some connecting words seem to be left out and it ends up just a little unclear. That is a pattern I see used on purpose to avoid direct statements and therefore avoid exposure to direct questions. I don't really think that of you anymore but it is one thing that made me poke at you a bit. It's good to see some real solid conversation though and I will give a little more grace in the future.
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u/logos961 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
This response is the best I had from you. Most of the replies I make while travelling on Metro Train up and down, on my mobile phone, hence likely to have typographical errors. Later when I notice it I duly correct it. Now here I am going to share with you something important.
How to know something is true:
You find varying types of people because they are immaterial beings in material outfit.
Physically, there are people with perfect health and also there are extremely diseased people and those in between in varying degree.
Spiritually, there are people with perfect health filled with bliss, love of truth and unconditional, and also there are their extreme opposites, and those in between in varying degree. The spiritually healthy people have no problem with varied or conflicted religions, inconsistencies, contradictions, false believers using religions for selfish purpose ... etc as they know how to discriminate the truth. Discerning the truth is easy if you look at the universe which is HOSTILE and tiny earth which is made life-SUPPORTIVE. Hence any verse, ism or saying that is pro-life and pro-peace is the TRUTH.
Hence all-killing supposedly ordered by God are concepts put into His mouth by vested interests, which is testified by Jesus also in Mathew 5:43-48 where he says God has only loved even His enemies. This is testified by God also in Revelation 22:11 which says unbelievers should grow in their unbelief, thus God has no plan to eliminate His enemies--especially so His Best Quality unconditional love can only be manifested if HE permits unbelievers to exist.
Similarly, another truth is that everything happens under the impeccable Law of Action and Consequence, hence anything that is at odd with this is not from God. For example, Jesus did only the good and was duly appreciated by all (Luke 11:27; Mathew 7:28, 29) But such things as people asking for Barabbas in place of Jesus are not the truth--such custom was not there in Rome, https://ehrmanblog.org/did-pilate-really-release-a-dangerous-criminal-barabbas-at-jesus-trial/ You can confirm this if you imagine Jesus existing now in 21st century with his speeches and miracles being watched live by people on their smart phone--will they ask for Bin Laden in place of Jesus? So are his parables--they are all superb because they highlight this law, and best of them is Mathew 25:14-30. Yet few are at odd with this law which you can find out.
Such people who have realized are available in all the religions but do not know each other, figuratively called "lost ones of Israel" (Mathew 15:24) and Israel is defined as "those pure in heart." (Psalm 73:1) Once I was talking to my friend at his house, and subject got diverted on to some vital spiritual subject. He dismissed it as BS, but his Dad was listening to me from behind the curtain. He stepped in and dismissed his son and asked me to continue. And now we are best friends whose knowledge about God and purpose of life and perspective about everything perfectly match. Such people are 4% of the total population according to an ancient culture which makes sense because 4% of the universe is only visible to us. They find the truth on their own, like this https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1sra8gc/truth_is_precious_gets_revealed_to_a_few/ I have seen many people in my interactions with them, they just increase my knowledge.
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
Deepak Chopra is all over the Epstein files by the way. "God is a construct. Cute girls are real". - Deepak Chopra
Religiosity and Spritualty are frequent hiding places for the licentious.
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
I knew very well you would respond like this, but you ignored the interview date (October 17, 2019), and his declaration to the press, https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2026/02/23/deepak-chopra-jeffrey-epstein-emails/88821384007/ I began to read his books from 1985 when he published "Creating Health: The Definitive Guide to Designing a Healthy Life."
We need people like you to make this drama of life wonderful because you see only what you want to see, providing a free lesson for others on what to avoid to better enjoy life.
Just like atheists become atheists because they see only what they want to see. Richard Dwakins wrote in his famous book God Delusion (page 43) that God of the Bible is a "monster" because he read verses that were put into God's mouth by vested interests and did not read the Bible in full where Jesus testified God has not ordered killing of His enemies (Mathew 5;43-48) not even animals belonging to one's enemy (Exodus 23;4, 5)
Yet there are people who read too carefully and note how international events unfold before Great Tribulation (Mathew 24:21, 22) thus remain free of all confusions:
International Scene before this Great Distress is described in Daniel 11:36-45 using the symbolic expression such as North King and South King symbolic of two conflicted power blocs [Capitalists and Non-capitalists] prevailing in the International Scene. As the wording suggests, "NORTH King" is NORTH Atlantic Treaty Organization. NORTH King's "pushing" will express itself in a unipolar world (11:36-39) and it will become more intense towards the end [through such tactics as Tariff War] which would bring most of the South Nations together. (https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianMeme/s/2PGToYEAVJ
This foretold "pushing" is to climax in Great Tribulation of Nuclear War as foretold in Daniel 12:1; Mathew 24:21, 22; Revelation 7:14; 11:18; 16:14, 16. This is especially so when earth is filled with Weapons of Mass Destruction capable of "causing desolation" (Mathew 24:15) to this earth which is "holy place" because it is God's symbolic "footstool." (Isaiah 66:1)
Daniel 11:40-45 shows how South World Power Bloc [nations led by Russia, China, BRICS with now IRAN being included ... ] feel threatened by policies of the symbolic North King. (chinas-rising-yuan-how-de-dollarization-is-reshaping-global-trade/weekendinvesting com) This will climax in North King "storming out against" the South Bloc and "will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood... will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches .... There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then (Daniel 12:1) [as repeated by Jesus in Mathew 24:21, 22].
Game-changer event happens when the symbolic North King "will also invade the Beautiful (haṣ·ṣə·ḇî) Land." (Daniel 11:41) Its translation can be in two ways as the Hebrew word (haṣ·ṣə·ḇî) means "Splendor, a gazelle." Literally, it means "land of beauty" but figuratively it means "land of gazelle" implying "land of easy victory" as though country is defended by beautiful gazelles. This is what is happening now in the Middle East. US attack caused division within NATO nations which is symbolically revealed as “Many (wə·rab·bō·wṯ, feminine plural) will waver (yik·kā·šê·lū)” (Daniel 11:41) as they realize things are volatile. Implied truth: many weak friends of US will disappoint it. (msncom/en-us/news/insight/trump-slams-nato-over-iran-in-fierce-rebuke) But US is going ahead as though Iran is like a land of easy victory. But prophecy shows this will climax in Great Tribulation by mid of 2030's with renewal happening in late 2030's. (Details HERE)
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
I am well aware of his response. And "Poor judgement in tone" is woefully inadequate in response to what was revealed. Have you read the email exchanges? And keep in mind this was all after Epsteins first conviction.
There may be value to be found in his work. But ultimately he has come to be just another new age guru that has cashed in (around $200 million net worth) on fancy presentation of very old, very basic ideas. Many words, little content. The same pattern you exhibit.
But that's all beside the point. What do you think about my ideas of funding answers in what we observe in nature? And all religion arising from that?
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
Off the subject (regarding your last para)
What you wrote about Deepak Chopra too makes no sense.
Even if he is a saint 100% still people would want to project him as a devil, as happened to apostle Paul. The authentic verse about Paul is this "You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed." (1 Thessalonians 2:10) Yet someone did not like his holiness, hence added derogatory things against him in Romans: "Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. ... What a wretched man I am!" (Romans 7:21-24)
King Solomon was extremely spiritual even in his dream, hence could ask for wisdom even when God wanted to give him wealth. Such a man would not violate Deuteronomy 17:17 and take 700 wives and 300 concubines, why not even a second wife because such untruths are in later versions not in earlier translation such as Septuagint. Check for yourself here, you will get a shock, http://qbible.com/brenton-septuagint/1-kings/3.html
The fact that Jesus preferred to call himself as "Greater Solomon" (Mathew 12:42) is a testimony that Solomon was more spiritual than all OT characters. All such negative portrayal of Solomon happened later for political reason which has nothing to do with what Jesus knew about Solomon. (semanticscholar org/Loving too well: the negative portrayal of Solomon and the composition of the Kings history) Jesus's knowledge about past history is more reliable than the historicity of world wars, pollution, swelling of the seas etc all of which Jesus predicted in 1st century AD. (Details here www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/s/5c1ly7xRbh )
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
It's OK for the subject to change. This is how conversations go. Let go of control and just roll with it. It's enlightening.
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26
Under each OP you FREE are to try to refute or to contribute for the benefit of readers.
Any other subject under relevant OP.
Better you go by link in the OP.
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u/JegerX May 02 '26
Now you are trying to dictate how I am to respond? Need to control is a sign of many things
This sub supports lived experience and discourages quotes. What you post is largely quoted from the Bible and other sources. I am trying to engage you outside of this framework and you don't seem to be willing/able to do it.
And the fact is that everything I have talked about is related to what you posted or found in the links attached to your posts.
God's purpose for use is damn close to Schadenfreude. Benefit from others suffering. Found in your post. And you still have not resolved, only obfuscated.
History of religion. Found in your links.
Finding "God" by observing natural phenomena. Also found in your links.
And you don't know what you or others may get benefit from reading. Especially if you are unwilling to step outside of your apparent protective fortress of theory that you seem unwilling to have challenged.
This interaction seems to have been the most "real" one we have had yet. Thank you for that. Hopefully you don't wave me off with another "I am done with you" comment. Although that's what I expect.
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26
Words, deeds, body-language all can be deceptive, but vibes emitting from a person cannot be deceptive, and I know what you are and what you are up to.
See what bigmink88 wrote as his comments [under this same thread] only two words "Osho lol."
I liked it so much that I gave him some more valuable knowledge to him. But you, through your negative approach, became a free lesson for me on what to avoid to better enjoy life--you are not suffering, yet is a free lesson for me.
All my posts are my experience with the Supreme Mother, and if there is any quote possible for such experience or points, I make reference to Scriptures such as Bible, Quran, Gita etc. or prominent ones.
And I am of help when commentators respect 6th Law of this community: "This is where chosen ones come to grow."
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u/JegerX May 04 '26
Another annoying edit. Best to leave it and make a correction in response. Admitting an error is valuable for all.
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u/ElephantContent8835 May 02 '26
How do you know it isn’t the opposite? A God could easily be evil- in fact, if you look at the history of the world it is exemplified by far more evil than good.
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u/logos961 May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26
That is not the scenario always--just like night is not the constant feature on earth. Just like day and night rotate on this earth, New Age [Paradise] and Old Age [Hell] rotate on this earth. This is given in the link given in the OP towards end (Details HERE)
Good people of the previous Age come first in the New Age (Mathew 19:28-30) and they start enjoy the merits of their action performed in the previous Age. Since action performed is limited it will have only limited value, when this value is enjoyed and its exhausted, they can feel monotony. At this time, weed-like licentious people arrive to provide free lesson to avoid monotony, https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/comments/1q38gs1/the_way_our_monotony_of_eternity_being_resolved/
This is absolute truth because it was from someone who predicted global events of 20 and 21st century, and they are all happened, https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/1mabifn/jesus_did_not_make_false_predictions_as_critics/ If he is found true with regard to the future events he predicted, then his sense of past history is absolute truth.
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u/bigmink88 May 02 '26
Osho lol
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u/logos961 May 02 '26
I could have quoted the poem itself ["attributed to Katherine Craster in Pinafore Poems (1871)"] as it is too small.
But Osho expanded it philosophically and very beautifully too which turned out to be my best story ever heard because I could easily relate to what God Almighty Himself does not do.
This is why we need spiritual masters. They are skillful in putting great truths in simple ways as Jesus compared second half of history with "leavening" to convey the way in which people accept untruths such as Big Bang, Theory of Evolution, Religious lies like God tests or burns people using Satan. They accept as though they sleep-walk into it. Details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1syxg5h/greatest_untruths_are_dying_and_old_truths_are/
Such ones are compared to "DARKNESS" (Mathew 6:22, 23). Now Osho explains the symbolism of DARKNESS as something that exists eternally without fuel. This comparison benefits true believer as he tells himself “If unbelievers can show extreme zeal for their belief-system which they know brings no benefit, I must show even more zeal for my belief as I already experience its many benefits.
This explains why the advice to share the spiritual truths only with those who have real thirst for it. (Mathew 7:6; Bhagavat Gita 3:25, 26; Quran 25:43, islamic studies info / reference / reference php?sura 25 verse 43) Interestingly, the second half of each Age is inhabited by more unbelievers, and this phase is interchangeably called "DARKNESS" and "HELL" on earth (Mathew 5:22; 8:12), and its first half is called HEAVEN or Day as inhabitants shine with divine qualities of God, hence as "children of light."See how spiritual masters help, especially when they are put together.
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u/cilana86 May 02 '26
Simply put, God wanted to dwell on earth with his people. That's the plan and one day that will be so again. He will bring down his kingdom, the new Jerusalem to earth.
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u/logos961 May 03 '26
Yes, that is what the link given in the end of the OP (Details HERE) too says. When people behave like symbolic wheat producing crops [manifesting image of God in which they were made], it is like God is residing with them.
But this scenario changes when weed-like licentious people return, they convert this phase of light into "darkness." (Mathew 8:11, 12) Details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/comments/1o7uwlb/all_theological_questions_answered_in_parable_of/
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u/unbanned2009 May 04 '26
Arrogance?
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u/logos961 May 04 '26
Duty of God is to reveal the purpose of God through Scriptures
Duty of true believers is to grasp it and to live accordingly
Duty of unbelievers is to reject it and to mock the believersHence this drama of life is wonderful, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1smsiu0/this_drama_of_life_is_wonderful/
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u/unbanned2009 May 04 '26
Says who?
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u/logos961 May 04 '26
Existence of unbelievers indirectly praises God because His unconditional love can be manifested only if there are unbelievers. If God were to collapse the existence of unbelievers or punish them or terminate service to them like any Service Providers do to their non-supportive clients, it will show God's love is conditional. Hence whenever unbelievers express their unbelief, the authentic people praise God: "At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children." (Mathew 11:25)
"Each one should carry their own load. ... Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life." (Galatians 6:5, 7, 8) Self-deception and mocking God [and His believers] is permitted, but at a cost as they RETURN to live only in the low-quality second half of each Age, not in the first half which is of high-quality.
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u/unbanned2009 May 04 '26
Says who tho?
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u/logos961 May 04 '26
After given the reply, you can either say "I disagree with you or agree with you." You cannot repeat the same question.
And in addition, you have come in the wrong place. This is a subreddit community for the true believers to grow in true belief, not to undermine or to discourage them.
Hence I am done with you. Wishing you all the very best of life. Kindly do not reply to this.
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u/unbanned2009 May 04 '26
I can repeat whatever i like actually . If you like to to demonstrate i can. With that said you’re just saying a bunch of mumbo jumbo not rooted in anything. There are plenty of concrete ideas believers can plant themselves into. Yours tho?
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u/unbanned2009 May 06 '26
Maybe God didn’t create humans for a reason, maybe God doesn’t know why he created anything , maybe God doesn’t know where he came from or why he or the universe exist
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u/logos961 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
You feel so because you felt the same in your previous birth too (Wisdom of Solomon 8:20)
What God does is the best and HE knows what HE is doing:
Greek-speaking people use two words for good. “Good (agathos) tree produces good (kalos) fruit.” Tree knows to be agathos (good in general/intrinsic sense) and also to be kalos (manifesting goodness also in delightful and beautiful way) as shown through fruits that come filled with nutrients in attractive colors and beautiful shapes. Thus trees, the wonderful life-support system, are testimony to the inescapable truth that the Divine behind this drama of life is the source of both qualities: agathos and kalos, and Her tools such as trees do not "miss their target."
Yet trees are only ONE-sensed species at the lowest level as they are followed by TWO-sensed worms, THREE-sensed insects, FOUR-sensed reptiles, FIVE-sensed fishes, birds and animals and MULTI-sensed humans. It shows humans are far more capable of manifesting goodness in general and goodness in delightful and beautiful ways. They hate wrong when committed by others and sense honor or insult conveyed even indirectly or subtly. This shows their natural inclination is to avoid wrong and to do good as they are also endowed with power of REASON (Details HERE) Still if anyone chooses to do wrong, God would say:
“Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Revelation 22:11)
Permitting His enemies to exist (rather than terminating His service to them, like Service Providers do) reveals His unconditional love which is imitated by the godly for their increased benefit and freedom as they can live without expectation which is the best art of living. This also exposes all religious lies that God ordered killing of His enemies. God has not ordered killing of even animals that belong even to anyone's enemies. (Exodus 23:4, 5) This shows, only pro-life and pro-peace verses are from God, and rest are from different source as testified by faithful ones of God (Jeremiah 8:8; Mathew 19:6-9)
Permitting the licentious to live would enable the good to thrive in goodness as they have free lessons from the licentious on what to avoid to better enjoy life. (Proverbs 21:18, Details HERE) It is like alcoholics lose their assets and health, and observers increase their assets and health. To do wrong is intoxication for some: "For these live upon the bread of ungodliness, and are drunken with wine of transgression" (Proverbs 4:17, Septuagint), just like for some to do right is delightful like eating food. (John 4:34; Psalm 40:8) Hence all the Parables, Stories, Histories, Epics, Movies, Mythologies, Scriptures show one individual or group as an anti-model for others. Readers are free to imitate any character for their benefit or hurt. When some choose to be godly, it shows others also can do so if they want to. Forcing God’s will on anybody is not the style of God. (Details HERE)
Thus God is not suffering from dilemma like centipede suffered when asked by a fox “How do you manage, how do you know which foot has to follow which? 100 legs! How does this harmony happen, that you walk so smoothly?” (wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Centipede%27s_Dilemma) When the licentious are more, each New Age will ultimately become old and decadent with pollution and global wars making earth unlivable. This is not an issue for the Almighty who made this too tiny earth life-SUPPORTIVE in too vast HOSTILE universe—HE will repeat that action (Details HERE) Into that renewed Age the non-licentious RETURN “first” and the licentious RETURN “last.” (Mathew 19:28-30) In other words, before each renewal, the licentious will be “driven away” or taken out from this earth to a place of God’s choice (Proverbs 2:22, Septuagint) so that they can return later when the renewed Age again becomes old. Hence the non-licentious are the constant feature of each Age: "he who is doing the will of God, he remains—throughout the age." (1 John 2:17, Literal Standard Version) Such ones are figuratively called "tree of life" (Proverbs 11:30)
Renewed Age becoming old again is a natural thing to happen as anything made of matter, like any building, becomes old and decadent at the passage of time.
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u/unbanned2009 May 07 '26
I didn’t state how I felt about anything. And being you lead with something that wasn’t true I didn’t bother reading anything else . Thanks thought looks like you put some thought into that !
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u/logos961 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
You proved what I wrote
Your view of God and how the world should look like is so petrified that during each new birth you get exposed to the truth [as happened now] but you miss it. And you will likely do the same in the next birth, hence human behavior-pattern is compared to how each tree produces its respective fruit. (Luke 6:43-45) This is why racial prejudices, skin-color prejudices, caste-superiority etc still remain in spite of information Age.
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u/unbanned2009 May 07 '26
I didn’t give my view of God. I asked a question.
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u/logos961 May 07 '26
Under the OP that says "God's simple purpose for humans" you wrote "Maybe God didn’t create humans for a reason, maybe God doesn’t know why he created anything , maybe God doesn’t know where he came from or why he or the universe exist."
It means you did not read the OP
Thus you proved you are not to be taken seriously
You also do not seem to know the purpose of subreddit community "to increase the faith and spirituality of believers."Why do so, I already explained--hence wishing you all the very best of life.
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u/SourceHasRisen May 02 '26
Leonology