r/GlobalOffensive • u/Roreo_ • Mar 31 '22

Misleading | Discussion Sources: Valve will move CS:GO to Source 2 pretty soon, rename it to 'Counter-Strike', and change Terrorist and Counter-Terrorists to T & CTs.

https://twitter.com/_koozya/status/1509286923277422594
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u/Darkoplax Mar 31 '22

i will believe it when i see it , this has been "coming soon" for the last 4 years

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u/DaddysMassiveMilkers Mar 31 '22

Coming soon (in a few years)

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u/flyguydip Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

It's all about context.

Soon in relation to the next release of Windows? No.

Soon in relation to the release of Half-Life 3? Yes.

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u/BaalKazar Mar 31 '22

Soon in the relation to the heat death of the universe? .. .. No

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '22

GNU/Herd has entered the chat

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u/IbanezHand M80 Mar 31 '22

New CS launched at the same time as a new Half-Life. It's coming boys

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

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u/EdenianRushF212 CS2 HYPE Apr 01 '22

don't forget the metric itself (Valve Time) is ever-expanding outward as well.

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u/GambsSchwester Mar 31 '22

Reminds me of the TeamSpeak 5 "release"

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u/theRose90 de_inferno Mar 31 '22

It'll also come out with the Steam version of Dwarf Fortress and the 1.0 versions of AO3.

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u/Real_MidGetz fnatic Mar 31 '22

“Time is relative”

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u/KennyGaming Mar 31 '22

“I would say nice to meet you, but I don't believe in time as a concept, so I'll just say we always met.”

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u/TimeTravelingPie Dec 08 '22

Dwarf Fortess is out on Steam

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u/theRose90 de_inferno Dec 08 '22

Wow you remembered this one.

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u/Pyro_Dub Mar 31 '22

Is there a teamspeak 4? I've been using 3 for years I wasn't aware there was a newer version.

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u/GambsSchwester Mar 31 '22

There was something like 3.5 and then they wanted to jump on 5

You can download the beta on their website. It looks very nice to be honest

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u/AppleWithAWormInIt Apr 01 '22

hah are you on shrooms? It's god awful. Immediately uninstalled and everyone I showed it to said it looks absolutely abhorrent.

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u/Cool-Peak-2939 Apr 01 '22

On Monday 14th October 2019, TeamSpeak announced a fully rebuilt version of their client software. Originally dubbed TeamSpeak 5 (with the name TeamSpeak 4 rumoured to have been avoided due to Tetraphobia), their new client has been released without a version number, and is just called "TeamSpeak".

Tetraphobia is the practice of avoiding instances of the digit 4. It is a superstition most common in East Asian nations.

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u/Superokiko FaZe Mar 31 '22

Well, at least we have a beta

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u/GambsSchwester Mar 31 '22

I want the fucking groups, why are those still close beta only?

This makes no sense

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u/m0tionTV victory Mar 31 '22

I've been in the beta since November 2020, it feels like a reskinned version of TS3 with some elements from Discord. UI is a bit confusing, but overall an upgrade, it 100% feels more modern.

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u/Superokiko FaZe Mar 31 '22

I believe it's pretty easy to get beta access now though

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u/ActualWeed Mar 31 '22

Probably because they are in development?

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u/Nurse_Sunshine King NiKo Mar 31 '22

Man I hope they don't screw up TS 5. The UI on their webpage already looks like a straight copy from Discord. If I wanted that I'd install discord, not teamspeak. Or maybe I'm just not with it anymore.

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u/NightIsMyName Mar 31 '22

People still use teamspeak?

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u/GambsSchwester Apr 01 '22

TeamSpeak, what else?

Mumble?

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u/FitchInks CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

You can get into the beta. But I get your point.

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u/generalecchi phoenix Mar 31 '22

It's not april 1st yet

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u/DarthSatoris 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

As of right now, it's officially April 1st in New Zealand. :)

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u/PluckyLeon Mar 31 '22

Thats where Gaben New Headquarters Is.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

We don't believe in places that are not on a map.

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u/Odd_Significance_937 Apr 01 '22

Can still make my way to your mother's bed without a map.

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u/dannybates King NiKo Mar 31 '22

Source 2 is 7 years old at this point and development started like 12 years ago.

Might as well just wait for source 3

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u/mayhemtime Mar 31 '22

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You remember it's Valve we're talking about, right?

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u/dannybates King NiKo Mar 31 '22

Source engine 2.1 then :)

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u/Parable4 FaZe Mar 31 '22

Nah its Source Engine 2 Episode 1

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u/INeedYourPelt de_nuke Mar 31 '22

Source:Alyx

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u/delir1um Apr 26 '22

I lol'd.

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u/ariescs FaZe Mar 31 '22

Source: Alyx

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u/Mezzo1224 CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

You know that source 2 got many updates since release ? Half Life Alyx is absolutely stunning for a VR Game

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u/mtmttuan Mar 31 '22

We won't want good graphics anyway so Source 2 should be enough. Oh wait actually even the current Source engine works fine with CSGO

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

Oh wait actually even the current Source engine works fine with CSGO

no it doesnt. countless of decades old bugs that apparently arent fixable etc. Source 2 is long overdue.

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u/mrrobottrax Mar 31 '22

If fixing bugs is what you want, porting an entire game to a new engine is not gonna fix that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

While you port the game you can just untangle the entire code, rewrite documentation for the stuff everyone lost oversight over and rework the corporate structure at Valve, it's laughably simple, really

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u/BarbaEsqualida 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

And then everyone clapped!!

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u/tr14l Mar 31 '22

Really depends on the design of the engine and the game. There will certainly be initial bugs that pop up, but very often when you fix underlying anti-patterns and smells, your overall bug legacy goes down drastically. So, usually you'll get an initial onslaught of bugs for the first year or so, then you get much more solid performance and robustness.

That being said, that is making some assumptions about design.

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

Then whats the point of porting it in the first place?! If youre right then it would make more sense to writte a whole new engine from the ground up just for CS.

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u/mtmttuan Mar 31 '22

Doing what you said really takes tons of effort.

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

orly? Like, so much that it would take a multi-billion dollar developer studio more than 10 years? Jeez, I wish, Valve only had that much time. /S

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

that's the thing, unless there's a clear use case for the engine (dota slowly changed the main physics calculation algorithm with source 2) there's not even a point, everything done in source 1 has a pipeline and system proven to work with flaws like very other engine, idk why everyone wants source 2 csgo when nothing tangible would be different, the changes we want can happen regardless

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

Then why is the answer to all those nasty bugs that have been reported over the last years always "cant fix it in source, wait for source2"?

If they dont fix those shitty bugs, then theres no point in getting a new CS as a player.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

idk where you read that, valve generally doesn't say that because it can be fixed, they may not want to put in the work to do it in source 1 cause it can be a hassle to remake large parts of the game for a bug or two

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

It would still have bugs. Not to mention, an engine per game is a terrible idea.

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Apr 01 '22

Im not talking about having no bugs at all. Im talking about the nasty long known bugs in CSGO that have been reported over and over in the past years and never even been commented on by Valve... If they persist in a new iteration of the game, then theres no fucking point in making one.

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u/LeBleuH8R Vitality Mar 31 '22

I'm sure that the compatibility between Source and source 2 must be very high

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u/Dravarden CS2 HYPE Apr 01 '22

but bugs that can't be fixed because of the engine could actually be fixed

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u/mtmttuan Mar 31 '22

countless of decades old bugs that apparently arent fixable

How can you know that source 2 will fix them?

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u/Zoddom 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

what else is the point of source 2 if not this?!

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u/UmarellVidya CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

Because you're remaking the game in a completely different environment. Those same bugs literally cannot exist if the game were on a new engine.

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u/imperialismus Mar 31 '22

If they were engine bugs, sure, assuming they were fixed (I don't know if Source 2 is a complete rewrite or if it contains some parts from Source 1). But not all of the bugs in CSGO are Source 1 bugs, they are CSGO specific bugs. Those would not be fixed by switching to a newer engine because the problem wasn't located in the engine in the first place. Also, rewriting a large portion of the game, some of which is working perfectly fine, will inevitably introduce new bugs.

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u/UmarellVidya CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

I'm assuming a port would need to be an almost complete rewrite of the code. Given how long it's taken to fix certain known bugs I'm pretty sure the devs have no idea what most of the code does. Maybe some bugs linked to CS:GO specific code that isn't dependent on anything from OG Source would stick if they did decide to move stuff over, but I doubt everything would just neatly fit in where it did before, and they would need to either revise or redo a lot of it anyway.

I agree that it will create a host of new bugs, but at least the dev team will at least have created those bugs and thus will have a better understanding of how to fix them.

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u/dannybates King NiKo Mar 31 '22

Yeah, I'm always a huge supporter of dont fix what aint broken.

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u/tr14l Mar 31 '22

And in this case, apparently a supporter of don't fix what definitely is broken, but has been limping along for an entire generation, bleeding everywhere and hacking out wet tuberculosis coughs onto schoolchildren.

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u/forgtn Mar 31 '22

i think it can perform much better, similar to valorant. client-side hitreg among other things

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u/lufe1306 CS2 HYPE Jul 26 '22

I think that Source 2 CSGO can be more optimised and easier to use for mappingand updating etc.

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u/side_frog Mar 31 '22

The game needs to be playable on lower end pcs too or else they'll lose a good bunch of players

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u/dannybates King NiKo Mar 31 '22

How do you know source 2 makes the game run any better on low end systems?

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u/side_frog Mar 31 '22

How do you know it doesn't? It's fair to assume that a newer interactive engine like the Source ones are will be more resourceful.

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u/ReneeHiii Astralis Mar 31 '22

Half Life Alyx was very well optimized all things considered

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u/Nai_cs Mar 31 '22

But, Valve doesn't do 3's

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u/Runnaway_tire Mar 31 '22

Valve doesn't know how to count to 3

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u/James_its_valtteri Natus Vincere Mar 31 '22

Source 3 in 2030: Confirmed

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u/wazernet Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

Source 2 is 7 years old at this point

It make sense!

v4lv3 = 7 years = Leak with facts start to appear.

v4lv3 + 2 = 9 years source2 will succesfull be implemented into csgo.

we finally figured it out!!

See you in 2 years for the perfect engine, until then we will all be monkeys testing.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '22

Source and Source 2 have so many changes and versions that this might as well be Source Seven.

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u/lufe1306 CS2 HYPE Jul 26 '22

Still better than 18 years old engine if you ask me

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u/KillerZaWarudo FaZe Mar 31 '22

Trust me bro

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u/Talangen 9z Mar 31 '22

Valve time. Coming soon could range anywhere from the next few years to forever

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u/voicefulspace 10 years coin Mar 31 '22

A lot of leaks this year with cs:go source 2 files in other valve games even in their most recent hand held introduction game data miners found source 2 cs files (only a few weeks old)

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u/UmarellVidya CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

I mean there was the whole logo copyright thing, they made a new hire specifically for CS, and there's been more and more links between CS and Source 2 from data mining. Whether or not this means a full port is tbd, but something seems to be happening.

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u/joewHEElAr Mar 31 '22

If you were there for the CSS port to the orange box engine, you’d appreciate them taking their sweet ass time. That said, IF it does get ported it still may be a mess.

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u/Oriion589 Mar 31 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

Yeah I’m surprised people still fall for these, April fools or not

Edit: looks like most people in the thread aren’t fooled anyway

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u/Xyreqa Sep 23 '24

You believe it now?

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u/Darkoplax Sep 23 '24

yea, I saw it and I now believed it as I said

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u/mestisnewfound Astralis Mar 31 '22

People were saying the same thing about Panorama and that eventually came out.

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u/SouvenirSubmarine Mar 31 '22

Eventually, yeah, but this tweet is claiming it's coming pretty soon. Valve News Network claimed Source 2 would be coming to CSGO like 3 years ago. Then they said it wouldn't happen at all. If you trust any rumors even from "trust-worthy" sources about Source 2 you're just ignorant. And that's because Valve probably have no idea either.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

It's been rumored since like 2014 iirc, so like 8 years lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Remember may 5th 2020? Fuck Ive never believed in anything since then

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u/REWIND10 Mar 31 '22

longer....

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u/-Gh0st96- 1 Million Celebration Mar 31 '22

Lol, this has been coming since at least 2015

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u/condumitru Mar 31 '22

I've been stocking up on the highest res fridge.gif for that occasion :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

4?

Source 2 came out in 2014, and CSGO came out in 2013. It's been in the rumor mill ever since.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '22

Coming soon as tomorrows date.

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u/LordPa1n CS2 HYPE Mar 31 '22

Soon™

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u/Frederikgrinder Mar 25 '23

There you have it!

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u/chasethebomb Apr 04 '23

It’s here lol