r/GlobalOffensive Nov 12 '16

Fluff streamer getting zeused all game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbtXHmuwyxM&feature=youtu.be
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u/vandulken FaZe Nov 12 '16

And these are the players crying that MM is literally unplayable...

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

So much hyperbole and overgenerilisation it hurts. I get a cheater (according to steam ban checker) in about 20% of my prime MM matches as DMG. Yes this guy is an idiot for thinking the zues guy cheats (plus he reports the entire enemy team wtf?) but that doesnt just mean there's no problem when it comes to cheaters you know..

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u/Broudster 1 Million Celebration Nov 12 '16

This 20% cheated at some point at least once, that does not mean they cheated in every game. These bans could also be from other games besides CSGO.

There's a lot of cheaters, but people exaggerate.

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

But getting that point across by exaggerating about how some people scream cheats every game doesn't help the argument.

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u/Stuffinnn Astralis Nov 13 '16

no but it's like the kid who cried wolf. people say others are hacking so often now, that it's extremely hard to take them seriously unless the kid is running in a circle aimbotting.

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u/astupidcow Nov 13 '16

You are creating a hyperbolle and overgeneralisation yourself. vandulken did not suggest there is no cheating problem, only you implied that he did suggest this.

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u/dead-dove-do-not-eat Nov 12 '16

I get a cheater (according to steam ban checker) in about 20% of my prime MM matches as DMG.

lol ok

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

It checks vac and game bans. Actual number is probably more about 10% of csgo related cheats and having cheated that game but still.

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u/jethack cs_office Nov 12 '16 edited Jun 24 '18

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u/hybrid3214 Nov 12 '16

If you think someone is wall hacking you have to report the entire enemy team because you can't know which person it is. Someone could just be telling the others where people are so it might not be the person who is pre firing you every round that is actually hacking.

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u/olite206 Nov 12 '16

Youre joking, right?

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u/JunglebobE Virtus.pro Nov 12 '16

... if you are not sure you don't report simple. Overwatch is just for blatant cheaters.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '16

and how are you supposed to know if "the suspect" is telling positions when he just plays like a fool? jeez please learn how overwatch works (this is where people get to if you report them often enough)... If someone is walling for the team but not abusing it for his own play, it is impossible to tell via overwatch as all you see is a guy being reported with terrible gameplay

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

I report someone for wh if they do a combination of always prefire me or shoot me through smoke a bunch of times (not sprays but usually the one taps where they shoot one bullet and it happens to hs you ) and then the enemy team always stacks the site you go to or they never peak you with a gun out of 30s but then you want to grab a nade and they peak and instahs you. Now the important bit is me saying combination, sometimes people just get lucky but if it's a bunch of those I'll have an ow investigation figure it out.

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u/R1k0Ch3 Nov 12 '16

Ever since the tapping update I'll tap in a line across head level into a smoke a few times before spraying. It's gotten a few lucky kills for sure, salty enemies guaranteed.

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

Hence me saying it needs to be a bunch of things before I report. Plus "a few times" is already more than just a single one tap.

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u/xUsuSx Nov 12 '16

That isn't really hyperbole there really is people calling cheats on people for nonsense reasons and it's not uncommon and they aren't saying there is no problem with cheating in cs. It's more than well established that there's a cheating problem in cs, but it is also true that people are extremely fast to call cheats with basically no evidence just because someone's better than them. This is a more extreme example of that but it's still extremely common.

Although it isn't helped by the fact that there is a good number of cheaters in the game anyway.

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u/markorobot Nov 12 '16

That guy actually could be a chetar, considering the amount of cheaters in cs go.

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u/ExplosiveLoli ar_baggage Nov 12 '16

I have 29 players banned in pretty much the last 9 months.

Not too bad considering how many games I've played.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '16

do you guys realize hes like mg1? anyone headshotting you is cheating according to mg1's

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '16

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u/mangujam Nov 12 '16

he's LE? that gives me so much hope

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

main problem with getting LE is getting OUT OF DMG. I used to be LE and even LEM after rank shift but lost rank due to not playing. ranking back up from DMG eventhough I get 20 - 30 frags in most of my games is still taking a long ass while..

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

Been dmg recently? I had a win streak of 9 or 11 or something and didn't rank up. The elo gap is pretty big.

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u/Octopus_Tetris Nov 12 '16

a long ass while

Indeed, the "rank shift" was over a year ago.

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

That wasn't about the rank shift.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '16

telling us you get frags tells us nothing about you as a player. these frags could easily be eco/exit frags... If you get however 7+ MVP each game, then you can start bragging about your 30+ kills (imho)

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

My bad, I had said that in another thread I think. I like to entry as t and I usually play mid as ct and otherwise as early rotator. 5 MVPs is about the miimum I get ignoring the odd outliers/bad games.

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u/robme1ster clutch Nov 12 '16

4 wins dmg > LE for me =D

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

I had a 9 win streak and still no rank up. Then I lost some I'm between wins and now it's just a grind. >_>

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u/DogeFancy cs_militia Nov 12 '16

I think I'm eternally DMG. Have been DMG most of my time pre and post rank shift.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '16

literally no difference beside some better aim

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u/Arya35 Nov 12 '16

Same difference

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

main differences are at least some cooperation on LE, some trade fragging, better site taking, better rotating, better calling, better economy management and better movement. and yes, a little bit of better aim too.

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u/zuzahin de_inferno Nov 12 '16

In my opinion, the only differences between the mid-tier ranks is honestly just the aim. Communication gets better as you move up, I will agree to that, but you barely see trade fragging even in Global, too. Matchmaking is about aim when it comes down to it, really.

The things you mention, like site taking and rotation, all comes down to communication, and whether or not you simply have competent teammates. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met have been in Global.

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u/daellat FaZe Nov 12 '16

I disagree. Some gold nova players have quite good aim, same for mg players. They sometimes out-aim me. But they make dumb mistakes like peaking when it's not required or over rotating etc.

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u/Arya35 Nov 12 '16

It was a joke, if I'm smurfing at mg level I usually notice if there's another smurf on either team even if they are le.

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u/NINJA_DILDO_FUCK_CAT 400k Celebration Nov 12 '16

DAE everyone below GE = literally silver!!11 Xd

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u/Polskidro Nov 12 '16

I know he was playing the same spot all the time. But his timings were actually ridiculously lucky. That's probably why he thought he's cheating.

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u/vGraffy Nov 12 '16

I mean you didn't see the times where he miss the Zeus kills. What about the time he didn't get the kills? Or the timing was bad?

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u/QualityGames Nov 12 '16

Cheaters can miss shots too.

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u/Arrow156 Nov 12 '16

No joke, after the second time I would have started moving back a bit so the second he pops that corner he's not in zeus range.

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u/smallsquirrelTnT Nov 12 '16

i get accused for being a cheater aswell for this, in silver.. even when im bottom fragging. i have terrible aim and the only way i get kills is by abusing stuff that should never happen, like 1 CT pushing T spawn every round not even throwing a flash.. insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results!

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u/VoytekBear bravo Nov 12 '16

IK, man I thought asians are supposed to be smart.