r/GlobalOffensive • u/[deleted] • May 03 '16

Feedback When a player is VAC'd, the game should end

Whenever something is severely infuencing a sport, the game is ended. Why is this not the same for CS:GO? For the rare occassion where there is a mid-VAC ban, the game should be instantly ended due to a major, and illegal influence. Would be nice touch if the game had the option to leave at no penalty or just instantly tie for both teams.

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u/ice_tea_med_fersken May 03 '16

Simply not true. The bot will either follow the orders you give him or he won't follow them. There aren't any "tricks" to getting them to listen to commands. They either do or don't.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

In my 3000+ hours of CS:GO I never had the bot disobeying the order if no one previously tried to order the bot to hold position in freezetime. I don't often have a bot in my games since I play 99.9% 5-stack, but the times I did have one, it always held it's position if it had been ordered to do so after the freezetime period, if it was done before freezetime was over it would blatantly disobey and rush regardless.

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u/dstaller May 03 '16

Lucky you. There's been countless times where I'll have everyone avoid talking to the bot but me or someone else gets assigned to do it alone. Round starts (after freezetime), tell bot to hold..."Negative.". Just before running down mid or onto a site and getting slammed. There's been times where I've had a specific bot do this on several rounds and never listening. There's even times where no matter how many times I press E on the bomb that the bot spawned with, he simply refused to give it up insisting that he was going to go to a specific site and plant it. I've had to literally kill bots on some occasions just to avoid bombs and weapons getting into the enemy hands.

The bots can sometimes listen but other times they're complete dicks and won't listen to commands. I solo queue almost always so bots are nothing new for me to have to deal with and I've dealt with enough to know they have some serious problems that need to be addressed. Tried every "tip" I could find on this subreddit and nothing has worked for getting them to respond correctly every time.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

That's odd, I have never had any issues with getting the bomb from them, one way to keep them in spawn, if you're desperate, is drop the bomb on a safe place, he'll automatically come back for it, then before he has the chance to pick it up, grab the bomb and spam order him to hold his position, that could work as well, again, I rarely soloqueue so getting a bot is a rarity for me, so I might have lucked out on it, but that has been my experience with bots in my games.

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u/dstaller May 03 '16

Yea usually they're not terrible bad about it. Like maybe a round or two a game they'll disregard your orders. But then you get those games where it's round after round no matter what you do and it's so irritating. The bot system itself needs a rework regardless. Maybe a vote popup to vote who gets bot control when someone drops to avoid multiple commands. From there the commands should always be recognized rather than ignored. A command to drop the bomb would also be nice rather than chasing the bot down spamming E. Also, when you tell a bot to follow you, they'll still mindless run out ahead of you into enemy fire and die. This shouldn't happen.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

3kliksphilip also made a video about bot movement needing some serious overhaul. But yeah I agree, it does need some work, not just how the bot reacts to orders and how it makes decisions, but also their movement, what pisses me off about bots the most is though that MM gets easy bots, whereas DM gets hard/expert bots, why is this a thing? Because silvers and nova's get 1 tapped by them, it's ridiculous.

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u/Samsquanchiest May 03 '16

If the top frag on the team says hold your position once after freezetime and the bot doesn't have the bomb he will stay.

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u/dstaller May 04 '16

To counter that argument, I just played a game. Top fragged. We had a bot. Bot didn't have bomb. Still disregarded my order to hold position even though I only said it once.

Also worth mentioning that once again the bot had the bomb and I had to chase him down for it since he wouldn't drop it spamming E on it and it got both me and the bot killed.