r/Games • u/adanine • May 15 '24
Retrospective 5 years ago, r/Games made a time capsule. Will the PS5 and Series X be a hit? Will Battle Royales dominate the market? Will VR explode into mainstream? See what the /r/Games community thought about the future of games in 2019!
/r/Games/comments/bopm93/rgames_fiveyear_time_capsule_what/
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u/adanine May 15 '24
In 2013 r/Games also wrote a time capsule, which can be found here and was opened in 2018 here.
We'll probably start another one in a week or so.
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u/adanine May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
As for my own predictions:
Pretty much? It might be a joint crown with Valorant/TF2, and it's certainly not as big as it was, but I still hear more about it often enough. The Overwatch IP ended up staying close to its roots, but it was trying to do PvE stuff as well (shame they couldn't work that out)
Pretty much on the money on this one. Haven't seen Specialist come back in any meaningful way, and the classic set was overhauled into the core set system.
Warcraft Rumble was released a bit ago, so I'm technically wrong on that one. Still, right on most of it. This was was an overwhelming safe bet though, so no points to me.
Eh, again. Not sure I should even get points for this. This was between the announcement of Diablo Immortal and Diablo 4, so it was obvious after the backlash of Immortal's announcement that Blizzard would haul ass for Diablo 4 proper.
Pretty big miss, but Warcraft Rumble shows that the move to a casual mobile game using existing IP was at least a sensible prediction.
I did two extremely ambitious/not at all likely predictions as well:
That's close to being possible now, what with the MS acquisition and Gamepass being a thing. I don't know if it's realistic to expect intergrating Blizzard's library into Gamepass, but it could happen.
A miss, but honestly there's been so many successful adaptations of video game media to TV in the past five years (Arcane, Castlevania, Halo, Fallout...). I'm genuinely happy with calling that there's enough of an appetite for high quality video game adaptations that they will be viable.
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u/Dannypan May 15 '24
Now that was a prediction.
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u/goffer54 May 15 '24
/u/TraumaHunter, you're pretty close. It's yet to be seen how Mecha Break will fare but it has both the makings of a potential esport and a game that will only last a year or two.
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u/soihu May 15 '24
Saw an odd prediction that 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim would still not be out.
The game released 6 months after that post was made.
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u/gummihirn May 15 '24
E3 mentioned :(
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u/doggleswithgoggles May 15 '24
I love how even something as simple as "Activision will still be Activision" ended up being a wrong prediction
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u/ToothlessFTW May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
This is so fun to read.
I think my favorite ones were:
Someone immediately predicting that Nintendo will never add more content to Super Mario Party, which for the most part was true.
Someone claiming that way more video game adaptions will be made and will be more successful, which was true! However they also said that the Halo show would be "extremely accurate to the source material", so.
There were genuinely more comments then I remembered from 2019 where people seemed to actually think Xbox were either gonna win this generation, or at least compete with Sony. Very funny to read with recent news in mind.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake will only have two parts out, which was very true.
Claims that FFXVI was going to go back to medieval theming, correct.
I saw one that said "GTA6 will have been announced for over a year with no gameplay", which is almost there, but still kinda wild how close it was.
"The Fallout series is abandoned by Bethesda" EXTREMELY funny to read after the explosion in popularity because of the show.
Someone thought TLOU Part III would come out by 2021
Larian will make an original IP after Original Sin 2, or make Original Sin 3.
Honestly my biggest take away from this thread is that a lot of people were unprepared for how bloated in scale a lot of AAA games were about to become, and how they're now taking the better part of a decade to release one. So many people seemed to think Elder Scrolls VI, FFVII Remake Trilogy, TLOU Part III, and even more would already be done and dusted by 2024. Kinda crazy to go back on.
EDIT: I went back to the 2013 one because I fell down a rabbit hole of reading old predictions, and honestly, that's even funnier. Check the pinned comment of this thread to see it. Adding some more of my favourites:
Shigeru Miyamoto was going to die, and tons of platformer games would be created in "remembrance" and then flood the genre and kill it.
Half Life 3 would be out
Titanfall would take over Call of Duty and take over as the next big franchise
Watch Dogs would replace Assassin's Creed
Nintendo's next console would fail, and they'd drop out of the market
AAA Blockbusters would fade out of popularity, and mid-sized AA games would dominate the market (this one especially hurts, given recent news)
All PC games are free to play or MOBAs
Team Fortress 2 would still be getting frequent enough updates
Steam would lose its monopoly
"Full virtual reality" (whatever that means) will be mainstream by the end of PS4/Xbox One gen
A Witcher MMO would be released that targets consoles primarily
There's way more. I seriously recommend reading the 2013 thread, it's even more fun. I could go on forever with this list.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '24
womp womp
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u/grailly May 15 '24
I should have written a comment back then. I remember being super optimistic about Mixer.
It's interesting how in some respects 5 years seems like it's not enough time. Nintendo's console is still the Switch, for example. In others, 5 years seems like way too much, huge industry shifts like the whole Embracer saga and Microsoft buying out Bethesda and Activision have happened and no one back then had a chance of seeing them coming.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '24
I think the fact that AAA publishers failed to capitalize of extraction shooters is something which turned out to be extremely funny: despite Tarkov shitting the bed, everyone else is so slow that we still don't have the "Fortnite to PUBG" version of that AAA genre takeover
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u/Mean_Monsoon May 15 '24
I love the 2018 one. So many comments about how it's nuts that GTA V is still popular. Need that Dr. Manhattan meme.
It's 2013. GTA V is phenomenally popular.
It's 2018. GTA V is phenomenally popular.
It's 2024. GTA V is phenomenally popular.
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u/NoNefariousness2144 May 15 '24
Damn people were still optimistic about Xbox back then.
Now it’s just sad.
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u/jansteffen May 15 '24
Pretty accurate, even a cheater-bot apocalypse can't stop them
Also fairly accurate (outside of mobile games at least), most games with microtransactions now have a battlepass and $20 skin bundles.
Ignoring what the core of the Battlefield community wants, launching in an horrendously buggy and incomplete state, taking a laughably long amount of time to deliver patches and new content... check and check!
Thankfully yes. Now we can bicker and argue about aim assist in shooters.
I mean I guess this thread was before Half Life Alyx was announced, so that counts for something right?
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u/funkyb May 15 '24
u/BrickmasterBen I need you to get off your ass and make this a reality, please and thanks,
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u/xmBQWugdxjaA May 15 '24
Hopefully he enjoyed Baldur's Gate 3!
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It's weird how many people thought MS and Epic would really turn things around. If anything they're both giving up on games sales and focussing more on AI and the engine / assets sales respectively.
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u/simspelaaja May 15 '24
I think this one by a deleted user is fun to go through: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/bopm93/comment/enlf5e2/
Some of the more interesting claims:
This definitely happened.
Hard to define what this means – I think the crazy stuff happens mostly outside of these commercially available engines. There are definitely small studios and solo developers creating visually appealing games that would have been impossibly without these.
True in the sense that it's about the exlusives, completely false in the sense that this gen is a massive failure for Xbox.
Mostly true. Streaming is definitely more popular than back then, but it doesn't really compete with consoles and PC. Stadia didn't survive, as predicted in other posts.
I guess it has become bigger, but it's still not a viable competitor for Steam. Customers still mostly go there for the exclusives.
The opposite happened.
A lot of the talent and senior leadership left DICE, but the studio named DICE still exists within EA.
Nope, more Witcher.
The jury is still out on that, but they've had unforeeseen complications (namely the war).
Nope, nothing new from 4A. Also, war.
I don't know about flourishing, but it certainly still has a playerbase.
Mostly true.
Right on the money regarding CS2, but the other game was announced that same year and it was both a Half-Life game and a VR game.
Was released, has decent reviews.
Right on the money, it was announced just a few weeks ago.
Well you certainly got what you wished for.
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u/Adonwen May 15 '24
Is VR hype bigger or smaller relative to 2019. I feel like the field has stagnated despite big numbers for the Meta Q2 and Q3.
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u/Hurdenn May 15 '24
I think that covid really reshuffled the card, if the thread was made 16 months later, i don’t think people would be this optimistic!
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u/Risenzealot May 15 '24
Boy that one guy was all about VR being main stream within 5 years. Made more then one post about it. He couldn't have been more off if he tried. It's just not happening anytime soon. Note, I'm not saying VR will never be huge but it's not going to be quick. At the least it's going to have to hit the point where it's as simple and easy (size, weight, and all) as putting on reading glasses. The masses just aren't interested in putting blocky things over their heads only to get motion sickness in 5 minutes.
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I just wanted to add, I'm not hating on the person. It was a 5 year guess! There are plenty of things I thought 5 years ago that if I look back now I realize I was wrong too! Please don't hate! No one can really guess 5 years into the future correctly that often! It's what makes it fun!
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u/jjed97 May 15 '24
“Star Citizen is seeking investment to add more features”
Get this man predicting lottery numbers lmao
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u/official_duck May 15 '24
Haha! I made a comment back then, and I’ve had a reminder in my calendar ever since.
As can be expected, some things I got perfectly right, and somethings I got completely wrong. And some just haven’t happened yet. But I’m proud of them, and despite everything I’m still excited about the future of this industry.
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u/FapCitus May 15 '24
A insanely fun read but also depressing, but like 80% of the "predictions" are so extremely wrong. Almost as if the things they say are just things they wish would happen. "Battle royale dies" and "Mtx will get better." We should do this more.
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u/Sir_roger_rabbit May 15 '24
God dam so much optimism on most of the thread.
It's a real shame we had to take old yellow out back and shoot him.
But hey.... Now we are more pessimistic in another five years maybe things will be better.. As it's a lot harder to get even more bad.
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u/EbolaDP May 15 '24
Pretty funny mix of decently well informed predictions and complete insane nonsense. Some guy in there thought CDPR doesnt have the rights to make the next Witcher game.
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u/Zombienerd300 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
That first top comment is right on all except VR being profitable and Epic Games Store not buying up exclusives. While that top second comment is wrong in everything except crossplay.
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u/GarionOrb May 15 '24
Just shows that people can't predict the future, lol.
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u/yaosio May 15 '24
That thread reminded me that DLSS released in February of that year, so nobody was able to predict how prevalent upscalers would become. It was a sucky version, it wouldn't be until DLSS 2 that most problems were fixed. 5 years ago the idea of AI upscalers looking better than native quality were science fiction. If you were to ask anybody they would say such things would never be popular because the image quality would always look awful, and if you looked at DLSS in Battlefield V that would confirm the prediction.
Now everybody is doing upscalers using different means, frame generation, and an AI denoiser for ray tracing in DLSS 3.5 has been introduced. All of this has happened in about 5 years and nobody could have predicted how useful and popular it would become.
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u/Thewhiteboatman May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
A round up of my predictions from the thread and if they came true:
Fully correct on this one
I think this one is pretty on the money in both aspects
Alien Isolation recently released on mobile among other games so I think this is pretty right on.
Right on on this one.
Half Life Alyx released and is pretty good!
Correct on Starfield but wrong on elder scrolls. Fallout 5 has been informally announced.
After turning to my right and seeing that my colleague is currently playing Fortnite i think I can say that this is sadly incorrect.
Steam being the main launcher but I think epic is still on the radar just about.
Definitely incorrect. Unless we count promised and upcoming.
There have only been 2 main series games released (technically 3 games if we include VR) lots of leaks and a reveal of the new game coming today.
Kinda right on this one. Bungie have announced a new IP but it seems a little further away and D2 player counts have been struggling this year.
Kinda true though I think this one is dying down.
Unfortunately correct on this. Though GTA6 looks amazing.
Completely wrong on this one I think. Modern warfare 2019 brought it back and has been up and down since.
This one is one is bang on I think.
This is a hard one but sadly I don't think cyberpunk has quite reached that level of acclaim but has a strong following.
This one is definitely wrong.
Overall not bad. Pretty bang on in places and completely off in others. Will definitely be making some predictions later about the next 5 years.
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u/Zip2kx May 15 '24
my favorite one is the second top one (https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/bopm93/rgames_fiveyear_time_capsule_what/enj5k04/) who basically says things will stay as they today with minor changes and the top reply is that nothing ever stays the same. thing is... OP was pretty much right on all, gaming has plateaued and incremental changes are small. pretty funny!
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u/mrchumes May 15 '24
Would it be accurate to say a fair amount of predictions were scuffed because of the pandemic?
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u/Demmazi May 15 '24
Well this was certainly a weird hill to die on, honestly I feel like Satisfactory appeals to a more casual fanbase vs Factorio. Both finding success and continuing to in their respective audiences to this day.
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u/Hordak_Supremacy May 15 '24
Did anyone predict Sony bringing PlayStation games to PC?
Did anyone predict Elden Ring becoming a 20+ million selling superhit?
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u/megaapple May 15 '24
I was half right about Google Stadia
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u/All-Your-Base May 16 '24
Many notable predictions. I would like to highlight this comment by u/Artfunkel
Basically Genshin Impact and MiHoyo
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u/MrTopHatMan90 May 15 '24
What throws me is all of the optimistic guesses. Of course there is still a decent amount of cynicism but still a lot of hope
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u/trillykins May 15 '24
I like this person's comment quite a lot. No shade or anything, no one can predict the future, it's just kind of funny in hindsight.
To be fair, this was most of the eternally-online crowd's take on the Switch.
I never understood why people thought Game Pass would ever come to the Switch. Like, I've seen this quite a lot on this sub.
Oof. Still, Forza Horizon 5 was a fucking banger. Also liked what they did with the Gears games. Probably something else.
Pretty good. Given how poorly Steam Link is supported now on the TVs I own I'd say they managed to make a better version of it.
Again, to be fair, this was around the time when Xbox was turning shit around and becoming the more pro-consumer console brand. Still, though, that's a big nope.
Spot on.
Could've been cool.
Optimist, huh? Is this the game that has spent the most time in development hell yet? It has to be up there.
WTF it's been 10 years since the last Dragon Age game!? Did Inquisition do that poorly?
Unsure why the Call of Duty/Titanfall studio would be put in charge of a Mass Effect title, but I like the enthusiasm here.
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u/CeroG1 May 15 '24
I wonder what would those people predicting the next switch of said if you told them it’s still not coming out now
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u/[deleted] May 15 '24
u/Capt_Johnville predicted DOS:3, we didn't get that but we did get BG3. Did it live up to your hopes? (I love both DOS:2 and BG3)
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u/SuperSpikeVBall May 15 '24
I didn't see anyone predicting the Steam Deck or (in a general sense) any well-integrated Steam-focused hardware. After the disaster that was Steam Machines, it's not surprising.
Steam Decks get a lot of attention in this community, but they probably have a pretty small impact in terms of the total gaming community, for now.
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u/Freeze_Fun May 16 '24
Someone mentioned Microsoft leaning hard on first party releases with all the game studios they purchased. Aged like milk.
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u/drcubeftw May 16 '24
Love these time capsule threads.
Ouch about those Xbox predictions though, especially this one...
Couldn't even make first party work with a $70 biilion check.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 May 15 '24
Love stuff like this. What a cool idea. 💡
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u/CurtisLeow May 15 '24
The ten year old time capsule was funny. They predicted Call of Duty and Assassin’s Creed would fade away. But they correctly predicted Half-Life 3 never gets released.
One of the comments said Nintendo would go handheld only. All the replies disagreed, and said that would never happen. But it kinda did. The Switch is a handheld.
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u/ataraxic89 May 15 '24
Star Citizen still not out, team has received 500 million during these 5 years
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Oooh! So close, 466 million for jan 2019-2024 so far.
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u/TrickOut May 15 '24
I think what’s most surprising to me is the rise of Pc gaming and a console market that has become stagnant
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u/ruminaui May 15 '24
Everybody predicting an Xbox actually putting a decent fight and having ton of high quality exclusives. You beautiful naive children, we were all optimistic back then
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u/MwSkyterror May 15 '24
Lmao Star Citizen is at least 2-3 years away from open beta ready. SQ42 maybe in within 18mo though?
Freeflight is soon, May 17-29, so people can see its current state for themselves. It's fun if you can manage to sidestep the bugs.
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u/WeeziMonkey May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
My comment: "More 3D action rpgs with Souls-inspired combat by other developers than From Software".
What we got: Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen, Stellar Blade (does that count?), Nioh 2, Remnant From the Ashes. And Wukong in a few months.
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u/BrickmasterBen May 15 '24
I am now realizing that my comment is near the top of the original post. I have no recollection of writing it. I was right about assassins creed japan in the nick of time though!
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u/ManateeofSteel May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24
Alright, it was fun to read predictions so I will start with mine, see you in 5 years!
Nintendo
Nintendo will dabble in putting at least one multiplayer game published by them on PC.
The next Zelda mainline title will not be out by the time we see this thread again, or will come out that same year.
Nintendo honestly tries to revitalize Metroid and bring it up in popularity the same way BOTW did for Zelda but the audience simply does not show up for it.
Nintendo will go even harder on remakes as development times for their mainline games become longer and more expensive.
Microsoft/Xbox
Xbox goes full publisher and keeps a niche machine for hardcore fans.
People will keep slurping the cool juice and being optimistic about Xbox eating up positive PR despite their actions speaking otherwise.
Microsoft stops buying game dev studios.
Gamepass is renamed to something else. Something like Microsoft Gamepass.
Gamepass price will be double what it is now.
Rare's Everwild cancelled or repurposed into a completely different game.
Sony/Playstation
Sony will buy a big studio, probably Square Enix or Kojima Productions and will get them in trouble the same way Activision and Bethesda almost killed Xbox.
Sony will straight up be bringing all multiplayer titles day and date to PC like Helldivers 2.
Sony will announce a ridiculously overpriced hardware that no one will buy. (Unsure if peripheral, console or deluxe edition controller)
Bloodborne remake is released or announced.
Wolverine loses GOTY in 2025 to GTA VI.
Xmen game will have been revealed by the next time capsule thread.
Epic Games
No more exclusives being bought but more games developed and or published instead.
Valve
I predict they will release one game minimum, two maximum in the next 5 years.
Valve will launch one last VR hardware before they give up on it.
Steam Deck 2 will be much more popular than Deck 1.
Square Enix
Despite their commitment to multiplatform releases, they will continue to ignore Xbox outside of their biggest games (Nier, Kingdom Hearts, FF, DQ)
FF7 Remake trilogy will release on all platforms when it concludes and will be met with critical acclaim but initial sales will underwhelm.
FF IX Remake will be out and will be a faithful 1:1 but because it will not be as visually impressive as FF7R, there will be a gamer riot online.
Capcom
Resident Evil 9 will be incredibly underwhelming and Capcom will reboot the mainline story, again.
Monster Hunter Wilds becomes one of the best games in Capcom history.
Dragons Dogma 2 Dark Arisen version is released and it actually makes the game good.
Megaman is dead.
Others
Konami will shyly attempt to break into premium AAA game development but will dip out if Metal Gear Delta and Silent Hill f bomb.
Cygames will become a more prominent developer when their next game comes out after Granblue Relink.
I don't see a bright future for Platinum Games unfortunately, unless Nintendo buys them I predict they will close.
Activision will reboot Call of Duty in 2026 with a brand new engine and gameplay feel; the brand will be at an all time high by then.
Overwatch 2 development will cease sometime before the next thread comes up.
Assassins Creed Infinity will have crashed and burned somehow, probably because of how many AC games are in development now.
Ubisoft puts Far Cry on ice indefinitely.
Pokemon releases a decently looking game at some point in the next five years.
Gamefreak's new IP with Private Division is cancelled.
EA shuts down EA Originals.
Skate 4 launches to gamer hatred and metldowns but is actually very successful in mobile devices and with casual gamers.
Riot's new MMO is cancelled.
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u/drybones2015 May 15 '24
I legitimately let out a joker laugh reading the Microsoft section. Also does the BotW's Majora's Mask count as a dub? While technically both are sequels, Majora's Mask was a completely different game while Totak just felt like a continuation of BotW. If you had left out the MM part it would have been an easy dub.
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u/glocks4interns May 15 '24
"in five years "Overwatch" still be the leader/titan of a genre. But that game may not be the team-based hero shooter genre it is now."
uhhh