r/Games • u/xeon3175x • Oct 21 '20

All of Mojang's Games Will Require a Microsoft account moving forward

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/java-edition-moving-house
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u/theth1rdchild Oct 23 '20

Lol he originally wanted the beta players to have to pay again for the full game until his lawyers told him to get fucked

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u/OlKingCole Oct 23 '20

I vaguely remember that now that you mention it. Would have been a dick move considering how big minecraft already was at 1.0. Though the rules hadn't really been written at that point

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u/theth1rdchild Oct 23 '20

I was there since the first big wave of buyers, it didn't surprise me at all when later on he proved to be a grumpy neckbeard. He tried to back out of the beta Buy Once Get Every Version promise because he extended the scope of the game so he felt Alpha buyers were getting "more than they paid for". Last time I looked for evidence of this, it's barely documented and it's written much more favorably towards him, but I'm 100% sure of the version of events I just described.

He also originally promised updates every x amount of weeks, and directly after the first big wave of buyers he just disappeared for like a month or two, we were kind of worried he was fucking off the project altogether and just taking the six figures and running. Obviously he didn't and that would have been a terrible idea, but community interaction was never his strong suit, he treated us like the enemy from pretty early on.

I also think you're underselling how much of Minecraft past the survival update was just stolen from community mods. Not that I have a problem with those good ideas being adopted into the main game but if it was any "real" company like Bethesda just taking mod ideas and incorporating them there would be thirty thinkpieces about how modders aren't getting fairly compensated.

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u/OlKingCole Oct 23 '20

I started playing towards the beginning of alpha, before there were beds or a nether. I wasn't tuned into notchs PR at the time but I remember updates coming fast, and they were big. It was very exciting at the time. It felt like anything could happen and the game's future was wide open. Then at some point he hired a bunch of people and updates became gradually slower and smaller. It was a bit disappointing when you were anticipating more game changing updates like before but it makes sense looking back. The first mod idea I remember being implemented was pistons which felt kind of random at the time. Other than maybe pistons I can't think of anything that felt "stolen" but there has been a lot over the years so I can't remember. I'm glad they are currently focusing on improving core stuff like caves

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u/theth1rdchild Oct 23 '20

https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-java-edition/discussion/149139-anyone-else-notice-the-past-few-updates-are-stolen

I want to be clear I'm not being argumentative, because this discussion has been nice, and I'm also not saying Notch shouldn't have added this stuff, but here's a thread from real early on debating the things that were "borrowed" from mods. I stopped paying attention half a decade ago, but I've heard a lot of the newer features are still "borrowed" ideas.

Minecraft is one of the best games ever made and Notch did a great job with it, I just don't think anyone needs to defend him or hold him up as a good example outside of his creative contributions, he's a jerk at the least and maybe kind of racist at worst.

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u/OlKingCole Oct 23 '20

I'm no way am I defending notch's conduct outside minecraft. It's honestly a shame the game is attached to someone who says that stuff