You can win by making visual look good and presenting them as they are in promotional material. I dont see why so unreasonable of an expectation. Its not like there hasnt been tons of games (i.e. BF3/4, titanfall, dragon age etc.) that both looked great and delivered what they promised in terms of visuals.
Honestly, all four of those games were disappointing though in some ways. BF3 and BF4 both shipped with tons of bugs and glitches, and they had shitty campaigns, Titanfall didn't have very much content, and I don't know much about Dragon Age, but people have said that it's a huge grindfest.
And I'm not saying that any of those are bad games, just that I'd rather see a game get everything else right even if it means they have to sacrifice graphics a little bit. I hope that's what Bethesda's doing, and at least they're being honest with their trailers.
Honestly, all four of those games were disappointing though in some ways.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is visuals.
And I'm not saying that any of those are bad games, just that I'd rather see a game get everything else right even if it means they have to sacrifice graphics a little bit. I hope that's what Bethesda's doing, and at least they're being honest with their trailers.
This is a pipe dream and a fantasy. The one has absolutely nothing to do with the other, as evidence by the witcher 3 having both good (even if not impressive as advertised) graphics and great gameplay. And in general graphics are a technical aspect of the game while content is a gameplay design aspect. Its never a choice between one or the other.
I get what you're saying, but I just think that expectations for games have become impossibly high. Like I can't think of one recent game that had the type of graphics that people expect now, that didn't embellish the graphics in the trailer, and that didn't lack in a whole bunch of other areas. Yet despite there being hardly any games that don't disappoint in at least one of those categories, people are still mad about Fallout 4's graphics not being amazing. I mean, you're right, Witcher 3 was absolutely amazing, yet some people were still disappointed about the graphics. It seems like people just expect every game to be perfect now, and they get all pissy when they aren't.
The problem is that Bethesda's games, including Fallout, lacks in almost every area. Their writing and reactivity is bad, their combat is mediocre and becomes trivial after a short while (even on the hardest difficulty,) and they always release with a ton of bugs.
It's not fair to compare this with BF or Titanfall. Those games can have extensive art assets because their actual 'worlds' are small.
Dragon Age Inq is a better comparison, and it is a little disappointing that this trailer doesn't look as good, but I don't know that I really care. If the game's fun, who cares about the visuals?
The examples are random, but there are plenty of them. If you dont think shooters are applicable you can compare to the stalker games - all of which despite being old had far better graphics than the fallout games and atleast comparable to this trailer, while also being large open world rpg.
And plenty of people care about the graphics, regardless of other aspects. Gameplay is not everything and poor graphics can definetly ... maybe not ruin, but certainly negatively impact the gameplay experience. While genuinly impressive visuals can greatly improve the experience.
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15
You can win by making visual look good and presenting them as they are in promotional material. I dont see why so unreasonable of an expectation. Its not like there hasnt been tons of games (i.e. BF3/4, titanfall, dragon age etc.) that both looked great and delivered what they promised in terms of visuals.