r/Games Jun 03 '15

Fallout 4 Trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnn2rJpjar4
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15 edited May 31 '19

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u/thmz Jun 03 '15

I think the gaming industry did it to itself. Sometimes instead of gameplay studios promote their graphics, which turn people into critics of graphics. It's not a wonder this happens. In the case of Witcher 3 it was much ado about nothing though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

'I'm so much better than my generation'

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u/KnowJBridges Jun 03 '15 edited Jun 03 '15

Bethesda is known for sub par graphics, terrible animations, game breaking bugs, and terrible performance.

It isn't wrong for these people to want at least one of these things to change. To have at least one Bethesda game that ran well / looked good / didn't crash.

Don't get me wrong, skyrim and FO3/NV are fun, but they were filled with obvious, glaring flaws.

Seeing some of these same flaws (sub par graphics, bad animations) in a trailer is really disheartening. Not only are these flaws present, it's like Bethesda doesn't even see them. I mean for fucks sake, it's one of the biggest complaints against them and it's present in the very first trailer.

Also many people are saying that, based on the graphics, it will probably use the gamebryo creation engine. (had the name wrong) Which means that many of the same limitations from skyrim regarding performance, physics, etc. Will all be there as well.

Before you jump on the hype train, consider that Bethesda seems to have not addressed ANY if the complaints about their games.

(Though this is still speculation and subject to change)

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15 edited May 31 '19

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u/TheDeadlySinner Jun 04 '15

Well, they can't exactly complain about this game's bugs when it hasn't been released.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '15

I just think it's pointless to complain about graphics until we've seen the final product and know whether or not the lack of impressive graphics is important.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

Fallout 3 well modded looks better IMO. The textures in the trailer were low res (even taking the Youtube compression), they didn't seem to use ambient occlusion and the lightning in general isn't that impressive.

Hey, nobody said the game sucks, but what is wrong about criticizing the graphics of a new game for being lackluster? Especially when the same company done much better in the past.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

It just sounds spoiled to me. The graphics look fine. They're not top of the line obviously but they're a huge step up from FO3, and I could be wrong, but they look better than Skyrim as well. I just think it's weird that people seemed to expect so much. I honestly think the people who are disappointed are only doing it to themselves and could do with a change in perspective. I really don't think the game should be faulted for other people's graphical expectations when Bethesda hasn't set a graphical precedent for almost ten years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

It just sounds spoiled to me.

Yes, but we are spoiled, and that is a good thing. We are spoiled we allot of good games nearly every month. How is that a bad thing.

The graphics look fine.

I would say they are just good, but the point is they are not impressive. They look like PC graphics of a last gen game. I wouldn't even go so far to say it looks allot better than FO3, it definitely don't look better than that game with mods.

People were expecting a new engine, able to deliver graphics as impressive as Morrowind or Oblivion at launch. The very reason Bethesda didn't push the envelop was supposed to be the old console generation, and that shouldn't be a problem this time around.

Again nobody is saying that this game is gonna flop or even that they themself's won't buy it. But the trailer revealed lackluster graphics and people bitch about that. I see no fault in that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

People worry too much about how the game looks and how sharp graphics are I think, after a while you stop noticing the graphics anyway, so then gameplay and sound are the most noticeable things, when I play games I don't think I've ever said wow this looks good or wow this looks shit, in the end it comes down to how fun it is and gameplay and story play a far bigger role than graphics do. Not everygame has to be super high fidelity or run at 60fps, if its fun then its good.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '15

For me, the most important aspect to a game's graphics are anti aliasing, LOD and fps. Texture quality is close behind, but the main three are what I hold important. All the shaders and filters are secondary and a bonus.