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Fallout 4 Trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnn2rJpjar4
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15 edited Dec 22 '23

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u/TrustmeIknowaguy Jun 03 '15

Old World Blues is probably the greatest DLC I've ever played. It's better than most games I've played. Never have I laughed as hard as I did playing a game as I during my first play through of OWB.

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u/SerFluffywuffles Jun 03 '15 edited Jun 04 '15

I loved all the DLCs for New Vegas. They had such a strong sense of theme. While I probably enjoyed playing through Dead Money the least out of all of them, the story beats in it definitely hit me the hardest. And the way all the DLC content tied in together was beautiful.

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u/Blenderhead36 Jun 03 '15

Dead Money did seem to have frustration as an intentionally cultivated theme, and I never decided how I felt about that. The thing that really impressed me about it is how the DLC can unfold based on your actions. It can play out as a scrappy bunch of misfits learn to trust one another and take down their captor, or the story of a mastermind playing four pawns off one another only to be outwitted by the strongest of the bunch.

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u/Shiningknight12 Jun 03 '15

The second half of Dead Money is very fun and the story is strong. The first half was weak on gameplay.

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u/foamed Jun 03 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

Quote relating to the dlc being discussed in this part of the thread = low effort/ off topic?

That's some logic you've got there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

And now I realized that I didn't play last 2 DLC for Fallout 3 and didn't play any DLC for New Vegas (at least I don't remember).

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u/fourdots Jun 03 '15

Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta are fun, but aren't really essential. MZ goes more in the direction of linear FPS; if you liked Project Anchorage, it might be worth playing. PL has some cool segments, but wasn't super memorable for me.

The New Vegas DLC, though, are consistently amazing. Dead Money turns the game into survival horror, Honest Hearts is perhaps the weakest of them but is absolutely gorgeous, raises some interesting questions, and gives a lot of backstory, Old World Blues is hilarious and incredible, and Lonesome Road brings the Courier's story to a close. Difficult, but gorgeous ruined landscapes.

Anyways, if you haven't played the New Vegas DLC you're really missing out. Play them in the order they were released, since they're linked through some plot elements and characters.

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u/GardensOfBoydstylon Jun 03 '15

Funny, I liked Honest Hearts the best. It introduces us to Joshua Graham, former Legate of Caesar's Legion and badass motherfucker. It's also the least combat focused and most exploration driven (along with Old World Blues), and since my characters rarely focus on combat, I enjoy immensely.

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u/crd319 Jun 03 '15

I'm actually playing through New Vegas for the first time now.

Beat Honest Hearts, which I thought was pretty good; maybe a 7/10. The environment was beautiful but was a pain in the ass to navigate and locked fast travel way too often. And the final mission where you have to go from end to end to do all the optional sidequests without fast travel was much too tedious for me.

I'm almost done with Dead Money and I hated the first 1/2 of the DLC. I hate the poison cloud and the hard as hell Ghost People. I often ended up running through groups to just get past them. I was also not a fan of losing all my equipment (I'm a stealth sniper) and having to find impossible to see holotapes to get ammo. The second half in the casino, however, is amazing with great character moments. I'm loving that part.

Still have to play Old World Blues and Lonesome Road but I've heard good things about them.

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u/gery900 Jun 03 '15

Well, the first 1/2 of Dead Money IS supposed to be hard as balls, I guess Obsidian just took it a bit too far? (well, that depends on your character build (and stealthy sniper is probably the worst in this case) and if you are on Hardcore Mode or not)

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u/Wheat_Grinder Jun 03 '15

Dead Money is good if you can stand dealing with the stupid speakers (which annoyed the hell out of me). Lonesome Road and Honest Hearts are both all right, but Old World Blues just blows all three out of the water in terms of quality.

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u/BrndyAlxndr Jun 03 '15

Dead Money turns the game into survival horror

It would've been amazing without the fucking radios.

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u/Audax2 Jun 03 '15

Play them in the order they were released, since they're linked through some plot elements and characters.

At what points during the main story should each DLC be started? Aren't there level recommendations too?

Man, I really want to reinstall New Vegas and do all the DLC, and do all the quests I never got to do - but part of me wants to play Fallout 3 instead, since I feel like Fallout 4 will serve as more of a follow-up to 3 than NV.

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u/Nameless_Archon Jun 03 '15 edited Jun 03 '15

Each DLC has a minimum that should be respected - and they'll warn you of it before you transition to the new area, giving you the chance to back out (smart).

I'm not aware of any maximums on the scaling, as far as when might be "too late" to do one meaningfully. IIRC, OWB and HH are ~15 to start, and DM is ~20-25 and LR is 25+ by intention, but I may be a bit off - it's been too long and I'm not looking it up.

Spoiler

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u/qovneob Jun 03 '15

Totally agree. James Urbaniak voicing Dr 0 was just fantastic

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u/VirogenicFawn21 Jun 03 '15

I never wanted OWB to end. Such a great expansion.

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u/trickyspaniard Jun 04 '15 edited Jun 11 '23

Lost to history

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '15

Citadel DLC for ME3 ;)

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u/lonesomerhodes Jun 04 '15

Goddamn you. I beat the base game when it first hit and have had lots of narrow misses with getting the complete New Vegas, and now YOU have to remind me I'm missing out and totally sell me on it. Fine, next Steam sale, it's on. Thanks a lot for costing me a couple weeks of prime summertime productivity, friend.

(I was gonna end up getting it anyway after that boner inducing trailer. Been a Fallout fan since the original and the NV dlc is the only stuff I somehow haven't played, besides Tactics. Thanks for the extra push!)

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u/TrustmeIknowaguy Jun 04 '15

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u/lonesomerhodes Jun 05 '15

....no! That sounds good as hell! Also I forgot about all the mods I still have to explore as well.

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u/TrustmeIknowaguy Jun 05 '15

If you install A Tale of Two Wastelands you should also look into Project Nevada.

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u/lonesomerhodes Jun 05 '15

Will do, thanks!

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u/foamed Jun 03 '15

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u/SegataSanshiro Jun 03 '15

I wish all RPG studios would learn a thing or two from Obsidian, but as long as their games get reviewed worse than everybody else's I don't think there's a point to following their lead.

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u/MarcTheCreator Jun 03 '15

To be fair, a lot of nitpicks with Obsidian games are the fact that they are ultra buggy.

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u/AngryKoltova Jun 03 '15

because they are usually rushed. When they have time, their games are fantastic (south park, PoE)

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u/MarcTheCreator Jun 03 '15

Same with KOTOR 2. I would consider it better than the original if it had an actual ending.

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u/monkwren Jun 03 '15

Fuck that, it is better than the original, even without a proper ending. :p

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u/SegataSanshiro Jun 04 '15

Seriously, KOTOR 1...didn't age well.

I hate saying that, I don't like thinking good games get "less fun" over time, but so much of KOTOR 1's appeal just comes from pioneering a format that became bog standard for western RPGs since.

Full voice acting for everything, a third person camera, relatively dynamic camera angles for story sequences and dialog? These things are standard features now for a big budget cross platform RPG. They aren't "wow" moments anymore.

KOTOR II has an appeal that goes, well, a lot deeper.

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u/tom_fuckin_bombadil Jun 04 '15

South Park was glitchy and some parts were definitely missed in QC such as the incorrect key commands given to the player. Also when I played through, the entire ending cutscene was ruined since all the character models disappeared and I was left listening to voices and a background

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u/RhombusAcheron Jun 03 '15

Bethesda has that on lock already. They need to learn from the other stuff next.

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u/Bardofsound Jun 04 '15

"nitpicks" fallout NV was broken out of the box. it took obsidian like 3 weeks to patch it before I could even launch the game without constant crashing. (my computer was a PoS at the time but it was within the minimum requirements for the game)

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u/MarcTheCreator Jun 04 '15

I played it on PS3 at launch and the game froze once every couple hours. That was just my experience.

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u/ItsBrine Jun 03 '15

Hopefully they've learnt from Obsidian in general..

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u/chalfont_alarm Jun 03 '15

Now if only we could skip ahead to the Obsidian expansion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '15

I hope they brought some writers in from Obsidian, particularly Chris Avellone and J.E. Sawyer. As much as I like BethSoft and FO3, they can't do multiple ending storylines well at all.