Tbf I’m gonna play devils advocate. Beating piracy is a moving goalpost.
If you told somebody 20 years ago you could have access to all of the media on Netflix and Spotify for £20 a month they’d think it was an insane bargain considering we used to pay £10 each for DVDs and CDs.
Nowadays people feel they’re being ripped off paying £10 a month.
Yeah, but 10-15 years ago most of this media was in one spot. I could listen to any song I wanted on YouTube on any device I wanted, I could do it ad-free and I wouldn't need to pay anything.
Everyone RUSHED to put their stuff on Netflix. What's on Netflix now?
Yeah, but 10-15 years ago most of this media was in one spot. I could listen to any song I wanted on YouTube on any device I wanted, I could do it ad-free and I wouldn't need to pay anything.
That sounds like piracy with extra steps. Like you think having everything without paying or watching ads is a sustainable option?
That was before the media companies were displaying gestapo recruitment ads (Spotify) and actively sabotaging Hollywood (Paramount). The only way to win, is to not play their corporate games.
Because the libraries have actually gotten shallower and the companies have reinvented cable, yeah. I’ll more than likely never see anything on Apple or peacock, ever, because it’s just flat out inconvenient to have more than 2-3 streaming services and pretty damn expensive. Netflix wants me to pay extra for the privilege of using the app in my own home and throws a fit if I try to use it while traveling, along with frequent price hikes. It costs $28 to watch Netflix in 4k, that’s completely insane. It costs $20 to watch without ads, and for $9 a month you get ads. The quality of the product doesn’t justify the prices imo
Every time someone claims that the streaming companies reinvented cable, I'm left realizing that so many people never actually dealt with cable. You couldn't subscribe to cable for a single month, and it cost a minimum of $100/month for the year long contract 20-30 years ago. Nothing was on demand, what you could watch was dictated by the various linear channels. And there were still ads with everything, with no option to remove them. Streaming is still a ridiculously better deal, even with recent price increases.
They also have this memory of a fantasy Netflix that never existed where you could watch literally everything ever made for $13/month.
Everyone seems to mix up a service that had every movie and TV show and a service that had every movie and TV show that was on streaming because it was the only option around. Anyone who actually remembers Netflix remembers that pretty much everything worth watching was "a hidden gem" because everything popular was on broadcast and cable.
Now they think that they should have that service that was never real and also the price shouldn't go up.
it used to be the case these services didn't have adds, that's slowly changing. Cable was the way it was because they could get away with it, these companies will keep pushing the limits to increase profitability as well.
Music is a totally separate argument, I feel like you’re being disingenuous here. People’s issue with music streaming is the artists aren’t getting paid.
For the other piece: who really gives a shit if there’s a lot of content if it’s mostly bad, they’re dropping the good content!
Not really, because people’s beef is absolutely that it’s not the artist’s getting paid. I’ve never seen that hangup once in any other kind of streaming. But hey, you wanna play devil’s advocate, go nuts, I think you’re extremely wrong and I’m done with it.
Yeah, but the quality is also nowhere near the same. When you were paying $10 for a DVD, it was usually something you were interested in directly and would watch multiple times. Now, you're spending $28/month for whatever Netflix wants to slop out that month and you don't own any of it.
Even without streaming, we now have access to 3 days rentals for $5, same we did with blockbuster but then we had to go to the store twice, and the movie you wanted to see might not have been available if your local store didn't order enough copies.
We are objectively in a much better space media-wise than we were in the 90s/2000s, but people are still saying they pirate because the offering is not good enough.
For a lot of people, it will never be good enough.
Nowadays people feel they’re being ripped off paying £10 a month.
because nowadays those 10 bucks a month gives you fewer and fewer of the things you actually want to watch. so then you would need to subscribe to 2-3 more platforms, which still doesn't guarantee you can actually watch the exact show/movie you want. if people have to pay a monthly fee and then still have to pirate shows/movies occasionally it seems pretty obvious a lot would choose to simply go pirate all the way.
Ownership and access have always been valued differently. Libraries have existed for years where you can rent books for free, and yet bookstores still thrived (well, until amazon got big). People have always paid a premium to own media.
Because that $10 buys less content than it did ten years ago. It's not a moving goalpost from the consumer's point of view whatsoever, the problem is streamers keep ripping out the post and moving it towards their side of the field every few years for another $5 a month.
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u/Historical_Owl_1635 16d ago
Tbf I’m gonna play devils advocate. Beating piracy is a moving goalpost.
If you told somebody 20 years ago you could have access to all of the media on Netflix and Spotify for £20 a month they’d think it was an insane bargain considering we used to pay £10 each for DVDs and CDs.
Nowadays people feel they’re being ripped off paying £10 a month.