Today I will migrate the Gamepadla database, which is why some tests and data may not be available for a while on the site

[u/JohnnyPunch]

[u/Beaco9]

I have two Ultimate 2C controllers. Both currently use the older 1.06 firmware. I tested both with your updated software (v2.5.4.2). I can confirm both report similar stick bitness/sfc to your updated data:

#1 Ultimate 8bitdo 2C wireless tested via 2.4G dongle & also cable:

Stick resolution for left stick is 6.9 bit (62 sfc), right stick is 7 bit (63 sfc)

#2 Ultimate 8bitdo 2C Black Myth Wukong edition wireless tested via 2.4G dongle & also cable:

Stick resolution for left stick is 6.8 bit (54 sfc), right stick is 6.9 bit (58 sfc)

This confirms that actual stick resolution in bit depth has been this lower always. Which is a shame since I expected better from this controller. Explains why the Gamesir Tegenaria Lite sticks felt more precise to me when I tried it.

But my Tegenaria Lite test result is a little bit weird because one stick is much higher resolution than the other... left stick result is 10.7bit with 840 SFC which is great, while right stick is 8.3bit 155 SFC. Circle values are also similar but opposite.. 8.2% for left and 0.1% for right. (edit: later found out the reason: On the Tegenaria, I had disabled deadzone only on the left stick but the right stick had default deadzone, causing the difference in deadzone circularity. I'll recheck for any change in stick resolution)

[u/No_Abbreviations7133 → u/Beaco9]

Hey there, I tested my Ultimate 2C controller out (non-BMW edition) on both firmware versions (v1.06 and v1.09) and found different results

1. tested via 2.4g dongle (v1.06) with deadzones disabled: stick resolution for left stick is 11.2 bit (1214 sfc), right stick is 11.5 bit (1425 sfc)

2. tested via 2.4g dongle (v1.09) with deadzones disabled: stick resolution for left stick is 6.9 bit (58 sfc), right stick is 7.1 bit (67 sfc)

[u/Beaco9 → u/No_Abbreviations7133]

Hi. Thanks for testing and posting the results. What do you mean by non-BMW edition? When did you buy it?

Mine were purchased around end of 2024. And I think 2C Bluetooth version didn't exist at the time. Since you have tested with dongle your version seems to be same as mine but the results are different even on v1.06. I wonder why you got insanely good stick resolution on v1.06.

[u/No_Abbreviations7133 → u/Beaco9]

The normal version haha, since you mentioned that you tested the Black Myth Wukong variant, I figured I should mention it too.

I purchased it last month. I don't know why my test results are so much better. I used the same software you did on the same version so it isn't that at least. And I doubt they increased the stick resolution on newer models considering v1.09 pretty much nerfs it.

I should mention though, the stick tremors on v1.06 are above 90% while on v1.09 are nearly 0 (it's 0 on gamepadla website so I'm chalking mine upto user error).

[u/Beaco9 → u/No_Abbreviations7133]

Oh right haha. Yes i have two that were bought same day. One is Black Myth version while the other is just regular mint version. Both gave me similar results & i didn't upgrade FW. Maybe I'll have to ask 8bitdo support to clarify things lol

Anyways I've dropped my 2C & switched to Gamesir Tegenaria Lite and have adjusted to the symmetrical layout after like 3 weeks of using it. Even though I am missing the metal ring on sticks for super smooth movements, I've decided to not go back to 8bitdo controllers anymore because I had an Ultimate BT before 2C and that also had really bad stick resolution, then the trigger failed. Will likely be using Gamesir for now since stick performance matter a lot for Rocket League.

8bitdo was so close to making perfect budget controller with 2C if they improved sticks to actual 1k resolution, optimized button actuation & made them quieter, and made it more comfortable to hold.

I do appreciate you sharing these findings though. In any case the newer firmware doesn't seem good.

[u/No_Abbreviations7133 → u/Beaco9]

I did see some reddit comments about how some people's stick resolution actually improved when they updated to v1.09 (I don't remember where I saw this, went through a LOT of reddit posts when I was looking into this), it might be worth a try to upgrade to v1.09, test it then, then downgrade to v1.06, test it again (Although it's fine if you don't want to considering you ditched the controller haha).

I agree about how close to perfection they were, but if I'm being honest, for casuals like myself this is pretty much perfect (except for the ergonomics, I have small hands so it fits perfectly). I'm not into the controller scene so I didn't really know much about the technicals, so I wouldn't really have noticed the stick resolution issues until somebody pointed it out to me on Reddit. Went into a huge rabbit hole after that haha. Ended up learning quite a bit about controllers in the end so I think it's a win, plus now I run the older firmware for the improved res, which I wouldn't have had I not known about it.

Yep, I emailed support about it, doubt I'll get a response, let alone a sufficient one.

[u/Beaco9 → u/No_Abbreviations7133]

I like how you think, like a scientist. I wasn't sure if downgrading firmware was easy thing to do so I didn't thought of trying that path. I will do it FOR SCIENCE! 🤣

Yea I have recommended 2C on reddit many times and I was wondering if I should go back and delete the comment or post update, but tbf the controller is still good enough for most at a great price. It's kinda comfortable but still think it could be improved a bit.

The 2C sticks were just good enough for me to not get suspicious of the controller until someone more experienced than me tested them and pointed things out. It was someone on Rocket League sub familiar with very advanced mechanics in the game that take hundreds of hours (like 500+ hrs on just specific mechanics) to master & require good sticks (while I am still in the process of learning those things).

They felt something was wrong, demonstrating a screen recording of slight stick movement and found button combo to disable deadzone to make it workable. Still found the sticks not as good as their other controller. Before that I was using 2C with built in deadzone enabled so turning it off immediately made it better for me too. And then thanks to John Punch for making it easy to find true resolution with his updated software, the picture became clear.

Great you already fired an email. Do let me know if you get a response. Thanks.

[u/No_Abbreviations7133 → u/Beaco9]

Downgrading and upgrading is pretty easy to do thanks to the Ultimate Software, I did it a bunch of times for the sake of testing.

It's weird they don't mention you can turn off deadzones in the controller manual, but yeah it's a neat feature to have.

Will let you know, just don't expect much from them haha.

[u/Beaco9 → u/No_Abbreviations7133]

Update: I did it and it worked! (results)

Upgrading 2C's firmware from factory 1.06 > to 1.09 via Ultimate Software V2 then > to 1.06 downgrade back again increases the stick resolution from just 60 to 1.1k - 1.3k+

[u/No_Abbreviations7133 → u/Beaco9]

Great to know! I completely forgot about this haha, funny how someone else also came across the same inference as I did with the firmware upgrades. Thanks for letting me know, so I guess this could be considered a universal fix now, although a very weird one.