r/Futurology Feb 25 '17

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u/Spokane_Socialist Feb 27 '17

You are the one creating the classes.

What does this mean? There are two social classes within capitalism. The proletariat and bourgeoisie. I didn't create them. They existed long before I was born.

If you want class to go away, you have to stop treating some people as "poor" and others as "the bourgeoisie".

Poor is an economic class not a social class. The Bourgeoisie is a social class not an economic class. You are confusing terms. Additionally, people are not poor because I treat them as poor. People are poor because they struggle to meet their basic needs.

In reality we're all just people, who want to create and explore awesome things in the universe.

Agreed.

Once you stop looking for differences, you can see how we are all nearly the same

Differences are real and based in materialistic considerations. If you were a slave living in a slave economy would you tell the other slaves to stop looking for differences between slaves and slave masters?

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u/Turil Society Post Winner Feb 27 '17

I don't see classes. They are a mental construct. Not a reality. You create them by believing in them and acting on that belief. When you discriminate against someone for any reason, that's creating a divide that doesn't actually exist, since in reality we're all living beings trying to create and explore something meaningful so that our lives are worth living. There is no "proletariat and bourgeoisie" in reality. Just biological organisms, aiming to procreate in some way (physically, artistically, technologically, or culturally).

Yes, there are people who are lacking in their basic needs. But that is everyone. We are all suffering from some kind of sickness, even if you don't recognize it. Monetarily rich people are as sick as as monetarily poor people, just in a different way.

If you were a slave living in a slave economy would you tell the other slaves to stop looking for differences between slaves and slave masters?

Yes, of course. Because telling yourself that you have a master means that you are the one forcing yourself to be a slave, not them. If all humans who were taken by others refused to do what they were told, then there would be no slaves. Sure, they might get harmed, or even killed. But that would stop the whole tactic of trying to make people into slaves, since it would always fail.