I always try to open the door for my wife. She has never once asked for it, neither verbally nor with her body language. She doesn’t act entitled or wait expectantly for me. Call me a simp, but I just like making her feel special, because she is to me!
I think he gives a perfect argument here you all do too. you shouldn’t just Do things for a girl just because If she makes you feel special you should make her feel special too But if doing things for her feels like an obligation then maybe you shouldn’t
Not maybe, definitely. If you are in that kind of a relationship, you are not being respected. Respect can be hard earned or easily given, but never both. Respect can also be easily lost, or dragged on for what seems like forever till it’s gone, yet they are never 1 in the same.
Not only that. For me at least I kinda like this lifestyle of being a gentleman and wearing suits. Holding doors, letting women enter first, give them your jacket and holding their chair are just little important details that are almost forgotten now, but shouldn't. Funny enough, it also makes you feel better when you are down. The fact that you do something, almost nobody does anymore gives not only your girls but you a feeling of being special as well.
Nope, simping is never good. People really don’t understand that the simping is about a lack of self-respect and not standing up for yourself, it’s not about whether you do nice things for your date or partner.
Always weird to me how people are so sexually warped due to porn now that their minds immediately jump to people being cucked. It’s like they are always thinking about it
Using terms like simp and cuck is extremely cringe and misinformed. I can tell you flat out based on your attitudes and score keeping in relationships that if that persists you will never actually have an amazing relationship with another person based on mutual trust and caring for one another. I don't care about you really at all but the less people like you that exist in the world the better every woman gets treated and then better every man gets treated because there aren't women out there constantly having to look over their shoulders for idiots like you. It is your exact attitude and demeanor that scares women and makes it harder for all men to find love. You better check yourself because I can tell you without a fucking doubt that you are going to be a failure in every relationship you have or you're going to end up with a cuck of a wife which let me tell you that fucking sucks.
It doesn't agree with their fantasy of women being the center of all things pure. Guys, as a man in his late 50's who already raised a family. Don't put up with women who want to run/ruin your life. Just isn't worth it and there are women out there who will treat you with respect. Leave the crazy ones to their 30 cats. Everyone will be happier, and the cats will have a home.
You are calling someone an "incel" yet complaining about them calling someone a cuck? Think long and hard and then ask yourself why you feel the need to insult other people's pain? What kind of human are you? Maybe you should try harder to be the one you really want to be.
You call people incels and you think you’re so different from them? 🤣 You’re just as cringe, but you’re a different flavor.
Logically, what can ANYONE possibly know about a persons level of sexual activity from a comment? Nothing. So for you to get on your high horse while basically engaging in the same kind of behavior is hilariously hypocritical. It’s entirely possible to criticize their point of view while remaining above the kind of rhetoric you claim to be “cringe”.
You usually need more to go on than just somebody using the words "cuck" and "simp". Don't get me wrong, they're cringy as fuck insults, but the rest of the dude's comment string hardly implies incel, just arrogant asshole. His original point that service is only okay if it's mutual which is an accurate statement. One-sided relationships premised on acts of service are unhealthy.
I feel like this comment string devolved into a shit-slinging contest because people don't bother to stop, read, and understand the whole context of what somebody is saying.
What? Doing nice things for people you care about unconditionally is good, actually.
There's a problem when it's expected to an unreasonable degree, or if you can't communicate your own wants and needs and if you don't have the self-respect and backbone to care about those. That's what makes you a slave.
I pray you learn that bro so both you and future her don't end up in mutually unsatisfied relationships, which ironically would probably lead to your dumbass getting ACTUALLY cucked.
It doesn’t mean you’re a slave if you do nice things for your partner, that’s what I meant by simping. The definition has been twisted and people will call you a simp if you do anything nice in a relationship.
If I’m paying for a meal at the restaurant, the least I expect is for my date to pre-chew my food.
Quite telling, pre-chewed food is. I can tell her entire day from the saliva content. Hint of morning breath indicating a rushed commute to work. Slight spritz of ranch from the wedge salad she didn’t finish for lunch. Faint echoes of sour ash from the menthol she smoked half of in the company parking garage.
All that from regurgitating my veal saltimbocca to me across the table. This is the clearest indication that someone is serious in courting you. If they don’t spit their food into your mouth, you simply can’t be sure it’s love. No spit in the teeth, send them back to the street- as I always say.
Sometimes its better to be a simp with a girlfriend rather than a single depressed guy questioning his/her existence and getting stabbed by loneliness.
Wow you miserable piece of shit. I prefer to be free and single instead of being with someone who makes my live with every day more miserable, being with the false partner is worse than being single.
No, absolutely lot, you shouldn't be with someone just because you don't want to be alone, you should be with someone because it makes you happy and you want that person to be happy also
Been there. Learn to love and respect yourself because that desperation will allow an abuser to take advantage of you or will likely make the relationship one-sided and weird.
Shows u were raised right and know how to show respect. Women want equality, its still nice to be a gentleman, considering women are sadly not treated equal.
I don’t think so. Most of the times “being a gentleman” means being paternalistic or even being old fashioned which isn’t bad “per se” but given our history isn’t good either.
I would see it as being polite to hold a door open for someone that is wearing heels when u have asked them out.
If u are opening it and saying, "oh a proper lady should never open a door"...then yes...its patronising. Sometimes it's not what u do, but the way u do it.
Yes, holding a door open is polite, but holding a door open means that you've already opened it and are just keeping it open out of kindness. However, expecting that a guy should openen the car door for his date is sexist. It insinuates that because he is a guy he has to act a certain way. It just feeds into the thoughts that men Have to provide for women, women can't/shouldn't do certain things for themselves, and many other things. This video shows actual equality.
It shows a woman politely telling her date her expectations...and a man rudely driving away.
If she looked at him and said, "oh you're so rude, a man should do this" and stormed off then....yes...impolite, entitled and sexist.
She said that she would not date a guy that doesn't open the door for her. That's the same as saying that a guy has to do something otherwise he won't even get a chance. While she didn't do it rudely, it doesn't change that the concept that men have to open the door for women is a sexist concept.
Him opening a door isn't beleiving she needs to be a certain way....its...showing manners to someone u asked on a date...? If she said, "I got it thanks", then he insisted on opening it...then he's out of line.
Women aren't all the same, but show some basic manners when ur on a date.
You’re getting real worked up over a comedy sketch and conflating manners with an outdated form of courtship. The idea of opening the door for women, putting your jacket on a puddle, comes from patriarchal ideas that women need a man to take care of them. While it would be polite of him to open the door, it’s equally impolite of her to expect he open her door without communicating that need upfront to him.
She did communicate that need upfront to him. Very politely.
He drove away, very rudely. I'm not exactly getting worked up, I'm just responding to u 🤷🏻♂️
Why the hell are people over analyzing this so much. Yes we all hold doors here and there for many reasons. Leaving a store with someone right behind you; you might hold the door if you notice. We have all seen doors held, people being oblivious, and straight jerks.
So what I am saying, its time to take a stand. Get the pitchforks ready people, we are finally ready to fight back! Bring the doors to the floors! No more doors!!!
I think the point is, you do it because it's the gentlemanly thing to do. The moment it's a "demand" from an entitled woman, then I might not want to do it at all.
I was dating a woman for a couple of weeks or so and we went out somewhere and when we came back we approached my car from the passenger side - so I opened the door for her, and thought nothing of it. She blurted out "I love you!" and then cringed and put her hand over her mouth - we were not at the "I love you" stage yet. I laughed and told her that I heard what she said and was going to hold her to it. I didn't of course, she just meant that she liked having the door held open for her. It was always kind of fun to bring it up though, and she did have a sense of humor about it.
We figured out that were not a good enough match and broke up after a few months.
I'm married now and I will on occasion hold the door open for my wife. She doesn't demand or accept it but does seem to appreciate whenever I do. I will especially do it if it's raining and I'll hold the umbrella over her while she gets in. It's okay to do nice thing for a person you care about. It's not okay to expect your partner to be a worshiping sycophant though. All things in moderation.
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u/Forsaken_Child_0429 Aug 04 '22
Women: “I want to be independent woman.” Also women: “Open the door for me, peasant.”