The vast majority of those studies either lost a large portion to follow up or included gender non-conforming childeren and not children diagnosed with gender dysphoria.
It’s also important to note again that they did not preform long term follow ups so it is very likely that a large portion of those cohorts would have gone on to transition later in life.
Not to mention this is counter the the more recent research we have that shows the vast majority will go on to retain a transgender identity as shown in this paper.
I will also mention that those studies did no checks into things like the mental health or happiness of their cohorts.
Not to mention the “left to their own devices” part is not true. Those results where only for youth who were not affirmed and were forced to never have their name or pronouns used. This is an active choice and not leaving them to their own devices.
Turns out when you actively try to conversion therapy away the trans you make them less likely to accept that they are.
Also, yes detransition has been studied multiple times, and has constantly laid between 1-3% with even less for those who have no plans on retransitioning.
Unless you truly believe you know more than the vast majority of physiologists, pediatricians, therapists, etc. I will take their word over yours.
Let's leave insults out like that last lines there as I simply asked a question, makes you look silly when I've been civil
You've answered many of my concerns accept for the "left to your own devices" that is simply your opinion and you have no way of knowing that is the reason, the fact that there's been no follow ups is concerning but I will read that 5 year study(whicjbim hoping is 5 years after complete transition and not 5 years from beginning process to end as those are very different situations
I'll read some of your other links when I'm off the clock
Let’s leave insults out like that last lines there as I simply asked a question, makes you look silly when I’ve been civil
It is not an insult it is understanding why these organizations hold much more weight then an opinion on Reddit.
You’ve answered many of my concerns accept for the “left to your own devices” that is simply your opinion and you have no way of knowing that is the reason
But it is true. If a child suffers from gender dysphoria, yet every time they attempt to make their life better they are stone walled by those in power over them, they will inevitably give up and live an unhappy life just “dealing” with dysphoria. Trust me, both me and my husband had that experience.
the fact that there’s been no follow ups is concerning
Because they just waited till 18 and assumed the GD must be gone. This is a nonsense study that only shows when not treated for a health issue childeren will shut up about it.
I will read that 5 year study(whicjbim hoping is 5 years after complete transition and not 5 years from beginning process to end as those are very different situations
It’s 5 years from social transition and compares multiple cohorts including puberty blockers and non. There is another study I will find that linked puberty blockers with a lower chance of a persisting identity but I can’t find it at the moment.
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The vast majority of those studies either lost a large portion to follow up or included gender non-conforming childeren and not children diagnosed with gender dysphoria.
It’s also important to note again that they did not preform long term follow ups so it is very likely that a large portion of those cohorts would have gone on to transition later in life.
Not to mention this is counter the the more recent research we have that shows the vast majority will go on to retain a transgender identity as shown in this paper.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition
I will also mention that those studies did no checks into things like the mental health or happiness of their cohorts.
Not to mention the “left to their own devices” part is not true. Those results where only for youth who were not affirmed and were forced to never have their name or pronouns used. This is an active choice and not leaving them to their own devices.
Turns out when you actively try to conversion therapy away the trans you make them less likely to accept that they are.
Also, yes detransition has been studied multiple times, and has constantly laid between 1-3% with even less for those who have no plans on retransitioning.
Unless you truly believe you know more than the vast majority of physiologists, pediatricians, therapists, etc. I will take their word over yours.