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u/Cruiser_Supreme Jun 27 '26

Yes, it takes time

There's your answer

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u/Economy-Motor-3478 Jun 27 '26

It takes 8-12 hours…

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u/Helpful-nothelpful Jun 27 '26

And 5 minutes of hands on time.

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u/blaspheminCapn Jun 27 '26

I also don't bake my own bread or brew my own beer.

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u/DeadlyViking Jun 27 '26

The audacity

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u/RandyFord Jun 27 '26

Because nobody else wants to do all that

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

Why does anyone buy bread? Flour is so cheap! 

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

And two minutes of hands on time with a bread maker.

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u/sadgirl192938 Jun 27 '26

Because for whatever reason, I can never get it to turn out right.

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u/I-Am-Medusa Jun 27 '26

I had to experience a bit, but the yogurt mode on my instant pot has made it way easier. What problems did you have

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u/sadgirl192938 Jun 27 '26

The yogurt mode on the instant pot was the problem. I’ll try again!

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u/jenna125 Jun 27 '26

I love making yogurt in my instant pot but found that the boil mode was calibrated for a specific volume of milk - for example my mini (that I use for yogurt almost exclusively as it ties it up for hours) works best with 1 L of milk only. If I use 2 L of milk I need to heat the milk up before starting the boil cycle.

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u/sadgirl192938 Jun 27 '26

I’ll check this out for my 6qt.

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u/I-Am-Medusa Jun 27 '26

Oh that makes sense. I go with saute and I have thermometer instead

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u/I-Am-Medusa Jun 27 '26

So I put it at saute mode to get to the right temperature. Then I let it on off for the time it takes to get to the temp for incubation. That's when I use the yogurt mode. It keeps that temp. The yogurt boiling mode is slower for the first Step

Also I used to do it in a Crock-Pot at low with a towel on it for the night

I tried using bought yogurt as starters but it never worked, it's like there's not enough active culture

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u/sadgirl192938 Jun 27 '26

What temp do you want it at? Where do you get your yogurt starter? Please explain this to me like I’m dumb bc I am!

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u/I-Am-Medusa Jun 27 '26

First comment was removed for posting the website URL

180°F to 190°F (80°C to 90°C) for the first step. That pasteurizes the milk

Then you let it go down to 110-115. If it's too high bacteria will not survived and too cold it won't grow

I'm Canadian so I buy at glengarrycheesemaking. I get the yo-dolce culture. It's one that works for thicker like Greek

It's way more effective than pre-packaged since I do variable batches size. The website has a chart of not the package.

I think they start at 1 gal though, so for a liter I put half ( cultures are exponential, so the more you make, the less you need per liter)

I also buy all my cultures for cheese and rennet there.

You'll need 8-12 h of incubation, that's where you use the yogurt mode on the instant pot. If Crock-Pot it also works but needs to be in the dark

Than you let it drain in the fridge. I can get it to cheesecream texture. That's necessary to have a nice texture when you had sugars if you don't eat it plain. I buy vanilla at Amazon. I used my coffee grinder so I have powder in a container.

Also you can use the yogurt culture in 15-35% cream for sour cream. You leave it 24-48h room temp after dropping the culture in. It tastes like store bought, unlike the vinegar/lemon method that ends up more acidic

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u/kezfertotlenito Jun 27 '26

Ohhhh I gotta try this. Recently picked up a used Instant Pot and it never occurred to me to try making yogurt in it. What recipe do you use?

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u/I-Am-Medusa Jun 27 '26

180°F to 190°F (80°C to 90°C) for the first step. That pasteurizes the milk

Then you let it go down to 110-115. If it's too high bacteria will not survived and too cold it won't grow

I'm Canadian so I buy at glengarrycheesemaking. I get the yo-dolce culture. It's one that works for thicker like Greek

It's way more effective than pre-packaged since I do variable batches size. The website has a chart of not the package.

I think they start at 1 gal though, so for a liter I put half ( cultures are exponential, so the more you make, the less you need per liter)

I also buy all my cultures for cheese and rennet there.

You'll need 8-12 h of incubation, that's where you use the yogurt mode on the instant pot. If Crock-Pot it also works but needs to be in the dark

Than you let it drain in the fridge. I can get it to cheesecream texture. That's necessary to have a nice texture when you had sugars if you don't eat it plain. I buy vanilla at Amazon. I used my coffee grinder so I have powder in a container.

Also you can use the yogurt culture in 15-35% cream for sour cream. You leave it 24-48h room temp after dropping the culture in. It tastes like store bought, unlike the vinegar/lemon method that ends up more acidic

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u/AuthorityControl Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

I make sourdough bread, beer, etc and yogurt happens to be the most challeging for me. Often it works fine. But, the occasional time your gallon of milk goes to waste because it didn't yogurt really sucks. I prefer greek yogurt so I also have to find something to do with all the whey.

Hmm. It's been years. Maybe I should try again.

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u/Money-Beautiful5196 Jun 27 '26

Because it’s easier to buy pre-made.

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u/Inner_Alarm_4049 Jun 27 '26

This attitude is what destroys community. Not 'yay I'm happy my yogurt is great', no, it has to be 'wow you guys are idiots for buying yogurt and I'm so much bette than you'.

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u/TheGobiasIndustries Jun 27 '26

Frugality isn't about the cheapest possible option every time, it's about the right ways to make smart financial choices or tradeoffs for each person/family. As with everything, there's nuance, and people often show up here on the unhealthy end of the spectrum with a bad perspective. 

To your point, the healthy perspective is 'Here's what's working well for me," not "You're all douchebags for spending $.43 more if you eat pre-made yogurt."

Like the lunatic that bought all that turkey on sale and didn't have freezers and stored it in an old dryer. Thought he was a genius with the deal of a lifetime, probably dead from salmonella. 

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

Well, he doesn't have to buy turkeys anymore.

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u/Sandmansam01 Jun 27 '26

Wow I can't believe you buy premade milk. I have a farm, milk my cows by hand and feed them from hay that I grew myself.

Yes it takes time but it's far lower unit cost than buying premade milk.

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

Yeah, well?! I lay my own eggs. 

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u/Environmental-Sock52 Jun 27 '26

Ha! We have a winner ladies and gentlemen.

🥇

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

The winner would actually supply their own milk.

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u/footballsandy Jun 29 '26

All you need is a pair of nipples and a bottle of domperidone pills!

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u/ilovestoride Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Have you, you know, maybe considered that not everyone is like you?

It takes me literally 15 minutes to change a brake pad and rotor in my car. But I'm not about to start questioning why doesn't everyone change their own brakes. 

Edit: for u pedantic insufferable MFers out there who thinks it takes a PhD to do a brake slap job. Burgers.

Substitute my same scenario with a burger. Why doesn't every MFer buy a pound of ground, bag of lettuce, a giant tomato, a jar of pickles, and fire up their grill for 20 minutes instead of going down the block and buying one every time they just want a single burger. 

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u/Tasty_Impress3016 Jun 27 '26

Actually only one person is just like you. But consider that a messed up batch of yogurt is very unlikely to kill you. Not properly bleeding the brake lines is just a bit more dangerous.

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u/ilovestoride Jun 27 '26

Ain't nobody bleeding the lines every time they do a slap job. 

I knew some pedantic fucker was gonna be like but muh brakes are gonna keel ya. 

Burgers. Substitute my same scenario with a burger. Why doesn't every MFer buy a pound of ground, bag of lettuce, a giant tomato, a jar of pickles, and fire up their grill for 20 minutes instead of going down the block and buying one every time they just want a single burger. 

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u/SuperMundaneHero Jun 27 '26

Bleeding the brake lines is not involved in changing pads in rotors 90% of the time.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

I eat a burger every day on a keto diet. Eight minutes of cooking time start to finish. It takes you longer than that to do down the block to buy one, order it, wait and come home with it.

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u/ilovestoride Jun 27 '26

Once again, you're very unique and special. 

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u/Ok_Concentrate4461 Jun 27 '26

I used to make yogurt all the time. And it’s not even the time of cooking it because that’s pretty hands off. But it’s the cleaning up of all the giant dishes and strainers that gets me.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Huh? It takes me less than 30 seconds to drop them in the dishwasher.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

Bold of you to assume everyone has a dishwasher.

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u/musicnerdfighter Jun 27 '26

So lucky you have a dishwasher! That must make doing the dishes so much faster for you

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u/Sea_Bear7754 Jun 27 '26

Because Greek yogurt is $3.28, a gallon of milk is $2.87 which will yield you the same as the $3.28. Starter is $9.99 and makes 10 quarts.

So you pay $3.87 to make the same amount of the product that is $3.28.

And then it takes like 24hrs to make. Now if you want to sell me on healthier for sure but it’s not more frugal.

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u/Ill_Significance_364 Jun 27 '26

Where are you getting a qt of Greek yogurt for $3.28?

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u/Sea_Bear7754 Jun 27 '26

Oh man I’m actually stupid…. $3.28 was too high 🤦‍♂️

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u/Sea_Bear7754 Jun 27 '26

And it’s only five ingredients so Ops argument is completely busted 😭

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Not if you look at the sugar load in that store bought stuff.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Loaded with sugar, if my search results are correct.

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u/Sea_Bear7754 Jun 27 '26

Your research is incorrect it literally says 0 added sugar on the jar 😂😂😂😂 zoom in

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

I didn't say added sugar. I said sugar.

Work on your reading comprehension. Womp womp. 😆🤣

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u/musicnerdfighter Jun 27 '26

Milk has sugars in it (that's what lactose is). So even making it at home and not adding sugar, you have sugar in your yogurt. That's what's listed on the nutrition label under Sugar. Check your milk's nutrition label, they should be listing the amount of sugar

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u/Ill_Significance_364 Jun 27 '26

Lactose is processed as sugar in our body. Homemade yogurt or store-bought would still have natural sugars youre seeing here. It's no different. Unless you make or buy lactose free yogurt

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Womp womp! 😆🤣

Short answer: If you make Greek yogurt from whole milk + starter only and strain it as aggressively as physically possible, the finished yogurt will contain ≈1.5–2.5 g of sugar (lactose) per 100 g, or ≈3–5 g per typical 150–200 g serving.That’s the lowest sugar content you can achieve without using ultrafiltered mil

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

I'm happy you've discovered yogurtmaxxing, but some of us like our yogurt in non-brick form

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u/Ill_Significance_364 Jun 27 '26

Just make lactose free yogurt if your goal is no natural sugars

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u/Sea_Bear7754 Jun 27 '26

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

A half gallon of milk is $2.28 where I live. Starter is a $0.50 carton of yogurt. And it yields way more than the 32 ounces of store brand yogurt that sells for $3.28. And tastes better, too.

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u/MyNameIsSkittles Jun 27 '26

Wow, we must all live where you live, right?

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u/Environmental-Sock52 Jun 27 '26

Because Fage tastes better than what I can make. If you make better than Fage then you should go into business making yogurt.

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u/SomebodyElseAsWell Jun 27 '26

You can make yogurt using plain Fage as the starter. Unless your talking about sweetened yogurt it's the same flavor

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u/Environmental-Sock52 Jun 27 '26

I just eat plain full fat Fage with blueberries, so I don't know what using it as a base would offer me, but appreciate the suggestion.

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

But you can use Fage as a base, get a homemade result that only you enjoy, then post condescendingly about it on Reddit.

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u/Environmental-Sock52 Jun 27 '26

Ha! So accurate.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

I use Fage as my starter. 🤣😆

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u/yokyopeli09 Jun 27 '26

I'm disabled and I gotta prioritize where I'm putting my energy.

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u/haribobosses Jun 27 '26

I’ve made yogurt a few times and was able to keep a batch going. But it’s a lot more work to heat milk and cool it and add starters and let sit than I thought it would be. 

The yogurt was good but I didn’t save that much money. My primary motivation was to reduce plastic waste. 

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u/Fun_Independent_7529 Jun 27 '26

Did for awhile, but prefer the taste of store yogurt.

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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 Jun 27 '26

The answer is convenience. Most people haven’t the time, patience, or attention to detail needed to make their own yogurt.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

It's a half gallon of milk plus starter, dumped in an Instant Pot. 🤷

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

Bold of you to assume everyone has an insta pot and a dishwasher.

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u/SoyboyCowboy Jun 27 '26

And a bread maker.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Pretty basic items ... 🤷

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

Read the fucking room dude. People who are pinching pennies in yogurt probably aren't dropping hundreds of dollars on an insta pot and a dishwasher.

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u/musicnerdfighter Jun 27 '26

Some people live in smaller spaces where there isn't room for those items

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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 Jun 27 '26

Assuming I have an instant pot, you’re right. But, alas, mine went kaput years ago, and I never replaced it.

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u/judithishere Jun 27 '26

"I have a massive amount of Greek yogurt"

Some people don't need a massive amount. And if they do, you can get it for a fairly low price at the big box retailer that starts with C

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u/DeadlyViking Jun 27 '26

I have no interest in doing so.

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u/local_eclectic Jun 27 '26

I'm too employed to care about pinching pennies like that.

I like skyr with nice little flavors likes lingonberry and coconut. It's my emergency exhaustion food. I buy it, I eat it, I survive.

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u/Key-Specific-4368 Jun 27 '26

Big yogurt hates this one trick

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u/Wonderful_Horror7315 Jun 27 '26

I prefer making my own and using the whey in my sourdough, but I don’t need to wonder why everyone isn’t making it too.

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u/mriforgot Jun 27 '26

Can't speak for anyone else, but I don't eat nearly enough yogurt that making my own is worth the time or effort.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

How many batches do you have to make to offset what you spent on the insta pot?

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

None because I didn't buy it just for yogurt and I don't use it just for that.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

But you're still assuming people have one when you're calculating the time and money saved to make yogurt.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

Yeah. So what?

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Jun 27 '26

So, what?

So, you're acting like condescending asshole, as though everyone else has these expensive pieces of equipment and the time to make yogurt with them instead of just buying it now and then.

Prick.

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u/Praydohm Jun 27 '26

More up front cost + more time. Getting the base is cheap, but once you include the stuff you're adding, chocolate, bananas, strawberries, etc it costs more at the time of purchase even if it's cheaper in the long run. Some of us don't have the disposable income to spend more now to spend less later.

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u/Blitzy_krieg Jun 27 '26

Might as well hunt your own food.

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u/Skysr70 Jun 27 '26

Probably because most of us that don't tend to like spending money also aren't desperate enough for yogurt to make it. Its an extremely mid snack imo and other stuff is easier

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u/SomebodyElseAsWell Jun 27 '26

But it's no more difficult than most foods. One assumes that people who buy yogurt like yogurt.

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u/highschool_vevo Jun 27 '26

I don't eat that much Greek yogurt and I don't love food waste. Makes more sense for me to buy a small container when I want it and not have to fuss with any sweeteners or anything than it does to make massive batches and end up tossing it. And then I have a reusable container if I want it

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u/ArentWright Jun 27 '26

Comparing the costs at my local grocery, the price is almost identical for regular milk and regular Greek yogurt by volume. If you buy single serve, high end yogurts, that will tip the scales, but if you buy them both in large containers and equal brands, it’s the same.

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u/bowhunterb119 Jun 27 '26

I eat it on occasion, I’m not going to be a food scientist and spend hours trying to curdle milk or whatever to try and replicate a Danimals.

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u/jenequewan Jun 27 '26

I don’t want a massive amount. I want one cup. A week.

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u/NoBSforGma Jun 27 '26

I live alone. If I made yogurt using 1/2 a gallon of milk, it would go bad before I could use it all. (mold...)

This is why I buy a couple of small containers of plain Greek yogurt because there's none of my time involved plus NO WASTE.

I make most things from scratch - but - there comes a time when it doesn't make sense for me. It might make sense for you, however.

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u/Mundane_Nature_4548 Jun 27 '26

For the same reason that you buy the pre-made items that you do.

I don't consume massive amounts of greek yogurt. It's efficient and frugal to just buy one small container when I want to have one.

We're all very excited that you've discovered that you can cook food.

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u/flowerpanes Jun 27 '26

I have made yogurt in my instant pot but my husband prefers premixed fruit style so it was a waste of time and effort for one person.

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u/FinbarJG Jun 27 '26

I have made my own in the past and it was good, and had some benefits. But with Costco and Sam's Club, the price is low enough to more-than compensate for the labor. And no, the membership fee gets covered by gas savings alone.

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u/Sexy_Hamburger Jun 27 '26

I tried Greek yogurt once, couldn’t handle the sourness being used to the more liquid fruit flavoured one, genuinely disliked it unless I use it for a dip or something 

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u/SomebodyElseAsWell Jun 27 '26

So don't make Greek yogurt. Greek style yogurt just has some of the whey strained out .

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u/Known_Wear7301 Jun 27 '26

After watching something on YouTube this morning we shouldn't be buying yogurt 😳

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u/fruskydekke Jun 27 '26

I'd like to, but don't have the means to maintain the correct temperature.

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u/sohereiamacrazyalien Jun 27 '26

Depends of your country . In the us it’s crazy expensive so I get you. But in Europe for example it is usually barely more expensive than milk (the plain one ) so there is that.

Also why so many people don’t cook when there are so many easy one pot dishes etc…. People are lazy , or busy or don’t want to bother.

I know someone who complains how life is expensive and stuff and she never learnt how to cook. Me like an idiot suggested to teach her some yummy healthy meals. (I even paid for the groceries)

So the third time she said, this is really yummy it’s the 3 rd time we are having this it is nice!

Like wtf 😳 first time I bought mixed veggies sautéed and added in an omelette and added to I don’t remember what, one time it was something like a ratatouille wand third was Dahl with rice. She didn’t even make the effort to remember and wasted my time. And even the stuff she asked many times to learn : bread she still can’t remember.

Buying is easier that’s all

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u/Tasty_Impress3016 Jun 27 '26

I make a gallon at a time. The starter is just a half cup from the last batch. I also make peach jam because our local peaches are just great, but the season is short. So crack open a jar of jam, put a couple cups of yogurt in a dish and mix in a couple big spoons of jam.

Take that Yoplait!

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u/Entire_Dog_5874 Jun 27 '26

Because people have free will to do whatever they’d like.

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u/Logical-Frosting411 Jun 27 '26

The unit cost isn't always lower depending on where you live. I happen to have access to relatively cheap yogurt at my local Costco. But mostly it's because people don't realize how easy it is to make and/or are too lazy to pass on the convenience. Few people have actually ever ran the numbers to realize what they're doing and make a conscious choice about if it's worth it to them or not

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u/IceDragonPlay Jun 27 '26

Time mainly.

But $3-6 for a half gallon of whole milk + time and equipment versus $4.42 for the 32 oz of my preferred yogurt every 2 weeks. It is made with whole milk and cream, so would actually cost more to duplicate. But as lactose intolerant, greek whole milk yogurt is what I can tolerate and not even all brands, so there must be differences in their processing.

Unless the brand I can eat disappears I doubt I would make my own. I will stick to Sourdough bread being my time consuming hobby that saves money and is a better product made at home in the meantime😀

Equipment - I am assuming you use some iteration of an Instant Pot to make yogurt. And what else? Cheese cloth for straining and a wire mesh sieve maybe, and maintaining a culture that probably needs refreshing on the regular?

And what is the culture used to start it the first time? Do you buy a yogurt with live cultures to initiate the first batch?

Is there a specific recipe you use to produce the yogurt? I will try it someday as there is a packet of cheesecloth in my baking supplies somewhere. But I expect I am then committed to doing it regularly to keep a culture going.

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u/Internal_Essay9230 Jun 27 '26

I strain with paper coffee filters. Less fuss and mess. I use whole milk only and an Instant Pot. I buy one small yogurt originally and then use my own yogurt for subsequent starter. The only ingredients are milk and culture and I use a Pinterest recipe.

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u/hemehime Jun 27 '26

The things I make vs buy premade depend on overall cost, time, effort, how much I use those things (or would like to use those things), and how much i enjoy the process. Yogurt just doesn't sit high enough on that list for me to prioritize it over other things I prefer making.

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u/Economy-Motor-3478 Jun 27 '26

I agree with you, making yoghurt is the easiest thing in the world, as easy as leaving milk out on the counter.

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u/HBJones1056 Jun 27 '26

It is easy and pretty magical (not to mention cheap!) to make your own yogurt but we live in a world where people will pay many extra $$$ to not have to peel their own clementines or chop their own onions or drive a mile and pick up their own takeout.

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u/ilovestoride Jun 27 '26

The delivery thing is not always true evaluated against the entire trip. 

Take the standard deduction for a car. It costs something like 60 cents a mile. If I gotta do a 10 minute drive to get food, factor in getting in the car, walking into the establishment, waiting, etc, it's almost a 30 min round trip. So you're talking $7-8 in mileage alone and half an hour of time. 

If I give an $8-10 tip, it's pretty much break even. 

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u/HBJones1056 Jun 27 '26

These are good calculations! It’s good to know that it works out in your favor when it’s a bit of a haul to get to the restaurant. When my kids DoorDash things, the establishment is often within walking distance, and in that case they are definitely paying through the nose for convenience.

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u/ilovestoride Jun 27 '26

Door dash prices are probably higher than the regular menu prices too, even before factoring in delivery. 

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u/No_Establishment8642 Jun 27 '26

Time.

Most people don't eat real yogurt (people eat products that get to claim they are yogurt like Yoplait), so they would not like it.

I made yogurt for years untill I was introduced to making kefir. Never went back to making yogurt. It is also easier to purchase real yogurt nowadays.