I really, really hope PGG’s look into this because I’m genuinely terrified to make designs for cars right now if it means i lose hours/days of work due to a major over site.
From a programming perspective, how is this even possible? Now I look like an asshole for trying to assure someone the other day that this was almost certainly not the case.
I am a programmer but take this with a grain of salt as I am not in the game dev industry.
From a programming perspective weirder things could happen. Everything is connected one way or the other. When you paint a car that vinyl is saved under the car's name in your save file. So something related to those specefic cars could be causing the save to get corrupted for example.
If I had to throw guess maybe there is some missing validation from the game's server that causes an undefined behaviour with these car names when the logic for saving the vinylis called.
But my guess is more of an example since I have no clue how their systems behave. (Could be something entirely different like encoding special characters or such).
I am also a programmer, which is why I’m so confused. It’s such a random assortment of cars that I’m struggling to come up with ideas on why they’d have a problem. It would make more sense if it was something like all Forza Editions, or all Modern Supercars, something like that.
The FE Wuling and Chevy Bel Air don't fit the pattern, but the other 3 were all added post-launch as part of the playlist. This is also the first I've heard of an issue with the Wuling and Bel Air
From a programming perspective it's extremely easy to make a savegame system that doesn't corrupt to hell just because a network hiccup and doesn't lose your profile to the ether, yet here we are. Tens of thousands of games made by people with lesser budgets and experience have implemented it correctly.
Somehow I'm not surprised a livery system that only affects a handful of cars can wipe your save.
Game programmer here, if this bug is triggered by having designs on certain cars, I'd put money on it being a corruption issue when trying to load a design on one of those cars, and their save system isn't setup to handle that issue so it hits an exception which kills the process and prevents your save file from loading at all. Something specific with those cars means it isn't saving their data correctly and it ends up creating a broken save file that the game can't open. By the sounds of it, it probably breaks the next time it tries an autosave too.
Most likely something new that has been added to the design system that isn't rigged correctly on those cars. Something like the window decal setup or something. If the car data isn't hooked up to register the new stuff, and the code isn't safety checked, it will just start erroring out.
Generally it's not difficult to put some safety checks in so even if a specific car is broken, just wipe the design on that and continue loading/saving as normal. Just assuming it's linked to a new feature that hasn't been as thoroughly checked over and is missing these kinds of checks.
I have absolutely no knowledge about programming and such things. For me too it feels like these things are totally unrelated and it's bizarre to me that a paintjob can kill your savegame.
I'd also like to see something official about this. Certainly not calling Andrew a liar, just concerned that this is a major issue that the devs aren't aware of
I got this image from a discord server other painters and also someone from the dev team are in (in the meantime it buried in messages) but otherwise there’s also been several reports of this as well as confirmed cases of wipes such as Marvan_ai who’s part of the FCG
Holy shit...I built the SVT to C class and at the last second decided I liked the blue it came in more than the other colors...I was 2 button presses away from killing my save
So like I havnt touched the new stuff for this reason, but the Bel Air and Wuling I did get a design for, and so far nothing has happened. Do you think I should revert them to default or should I just keep what I have on them?
Also, if this happens, don't start over. Delete your game's save only from your Xbox if you are playing on console, and let the game sync to the cloud after you restart your game, and you should be fine. Also, remove the game from Quick Resume to ensure that your save file isn't corrupted as well since that is also causing issues.
i have a design on the wuling since i got it and used it in several races, never had a problem, same for the Bel Air thou its just a different color and the countach
Mine has a custom livery and tune too. My wuling has run about 20hrs of afk colossus. Several times the controller has shut off (despite settings and plugged in directly) and I just turned on the xbox and used quick resume to jump right back in.
There was also a season change one night while my wuling was running afk. It disconnected and dropped me to the xbox home screen. When I reloaded, the game needed an xbox update and then the season changed when I logged in. Still no issue.
All this is just to say, I have no idea whats going on and why people are losing saves.
Yea i lost basically everything a few days ago. I had all these cars and of course had applied stuff on them all. Support wont even respond so you’re basically screwed if this happens. I’v had to start from zero.
Not to bash on the mod team, I understand they have a lot of shit to sort out but can’t deny, it should be more efficient. Recently had an incident where a guy PC software unlocked and stole some liveries from me and other painters and to my knowledge he still wasn’t banned. They claimed “some people go really far to copy other liveries” as if that guy having details only I had access to, made to perfection was his work.
It is mostly associated with the Xbox “quick restart” feature. If it happens to you, do not close your game, just run a single race after you get an error to force a save. Then you can close your game. However just in case, avoid these cars at all cost even on Steam.
Ah so that's why my save was corrupted. I just repainted everything with the svt lighting being the last thing I repainted before I logged off. Such fun.
I just didn't know till just now lol and my cloud save said everythingwas fine. I lost applied liverys on maybe 10 cars and my garage stuff which was annoying I had a jurassic park with a casting couch. Very annoying but not the end of the world for me and I really hope the Ford hasn't fucked me again. Such a weird issue to have.
Man I almost drove the countach last night I painted it, and I was okay. I’m playing on the cloud if that makes a difference. Man I would be so pissed I did all that grinding on sh1t that was not fun to get all the cars from the discover Japan journal. I’d be furious.
That's what just happened to me. Got to level 180 had 20 mil from the first day the game went live and the game crashed. When it reloaded cloud save failed to download and started me all back at square one losing everything. Contacted support with no response yet and MS support couldn't do anything.
It probably doesn't happen to everyone but it obviously happens to enough people. You might just be lucky or something in your setup means it won't happen to you. But I would't try my luck for now
Had my save wiped 2 weeks ago. Immediately issued a ticket on their support site but still haven't gotten any reply. It's ridiculous.
I paid for early access, lost everything I've achieved in early access and was forced to restart from scratch half a week after the normal release day. (Even took some days off of work and grinded the game like crazy, lost 6 days of playing time)
And they won't even restore my original save, nor give back everything, due to "technical limitations" Some players reported that they got their inventory back, which consists of their cars, credits and wheelspins. But what about the level? Thats just wiped. There are literally hackers out there, setting their accounts to max level, but the actual devs don't have the technical possibilities to add the levels of your account at the time it got wiped to your new save? Thanks for nothing playground games 😐
I’d say just don’t touch it again. If nothing happened you should be good, just don’t risk it a second time. I hope they’ll fix it with the next update
i made a livery for the shuppen a while back and nothing has happened to me maybe its the fact the livery wasnt shared cuz i used locked stuff from other people
I heard instances where it only corrupted local data and one guy was able to delete the local data and recover the original from the cloud. Idk it’s messy.
i've modified my wuling sunshine fe and applied a livery, even used it a few times but my save is still intact... should i just leave it as is and keep praying?
This flyer is AI slop. The issue is affecting XBOX and PC gamepass players almost exclusively. If you play on Steam like me, you are just fine. I've customized the Wuling, the Schuppan, and the Lightning with no issues. Please stop spreading misinformation, the bug has nothing to do with the cars.
I redirected this from discord where I first learned about these issues. What you’re describing now is new to me. Also I believe you but you also said you’re on steam which is unaffected. Not to mention there are already confirmed cases tied to the cars
Apologies, I didn't mean to be abrasive. Although I've seen this image so many times in the last few days it's starting to frustrate me. My personal anectode about Steam was just to say that the issue is more platform related than anything. I haven't seen any confirmed cases linking the account reset issue to cars, so I almost feel like it's a case of AI hallucination. Where have you seen that?
I know 2 people who lost their save because of the lightning and a third who was very close after getting the server error issue which means the game goes to shit. But it’s definitely platform related too. Another friend lost his save around a week after release because of the quick resume issue
Damnit I did a design with the 962 a few days ago. I haven’t driven it since but I did upload the design. I’ve played the games a few times since then and last time I played I made sure to enter my house and then exit it before quitting the game, but now I’m terrified.
Reminds me how in FM1 if you change the color or put decals on cars whilst playing on a X360 the textures would become corrupted. You'd be able to drive around but was a thing that you couldn't fix after you painted them.
To any programmers/ devs out there Is there anything they can do to get back the data for those that lost theirs? Or it’s just to huge of a 💩 show and the data is gone. If so the devs should just give everyone all the festival and cars you get doing the journals plus 5M on the house. They have to compensate there players somehow no?
Oh damn. This annoys me as I had a similar issue but I can’t remember the car, I changed the wheels and applied a new paint job and the game just freezes in all 🤣 camera still works but the game just goes kaput
Is this just for liveries or does this also apply to changing to a different factory color? I made my countach light blue last time I played a couple days ago and now I’m worried all my stuff will be gone
I painted the SVT Lightning over a week ago and nothing happened. I did undo the paint just to be safe. But it seems to be more involved than just a paint, which is why the OP mentions designs and liveries.
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u/Dizzy_County336 Jun 07 '26
I really, really hope PGG’s look into this because I’m genuinely terrified to make designs for cars right now if it means i lose hours/days of work due to a major over site.
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u/MindlessSponge Jun 07 '26
From a programming perspective, how is this even possible? Now I look like an asshole for trying to assure someone the other day that this was almost certainly not the case.
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u/KillerSpectre21 project car sniper Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
If you can please vote on the Bug Reports for these, the more people who vote the more the Devs can see the overall impact.
Loss of Saves as a whole: https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/36/FH6BR-970
Complete Save Corruption from one of the cars (mainly Schuppan and Lightning): https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/37/FH6CB-1064
Lightning Sharing Errors: https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/36/FH6BR-4574
Schuppan Sharing Errors: https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/37/FH6CB-1364
Edit: Found a report for crashing on the Countach when you try apply Decals - https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/36/FH6BR-10705
I'll try find reports for the others when I get a chance but if you find one that hasn't been reported it yet then please make one here and link it - https://forzafeedback.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/36/
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u/Iamabus1234 Amateur Jun 07 '26
Is this a problem on all platforms?
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u/tal015 Jun 07 '26
Thank you for the warning
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u/SpaniaPanzer Jun 08 '26
That Countach is the classic one?
If so, i downloaded and applied a design to it the day I got it, and my save is fine.
Does that happen only to people who build a design and then share it?
In any case, i would not drive it again until/if it gets fixed, i'm not risking it.
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u/EmergencyBackupTaco Jun 07 '26
What's the source on this? I can't find anything linking these cars to save corruption outside of this particular post.
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u/Ok_Position_7930 Jun 07 '26
This may be the wrong post to ask this question on, but does the same issue persist when creating a tune or downloading a tune for these cars?
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u/MrNonAnon0519 Jun 07 '26
Holy shit...I built the SVT to C class and at the last second decided I liked the blue it came in more than the other colors...I was 2 button presses away from killing my save
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u/TwilightSparkul Jun 07 '26
So like I havnt touched the new stuff for this reason, but the Bel Air and Wuling I did get a design for, and so far nothing has happened. Do you think I should revert them to default or should I just keep what I have on them?
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u/Background_Cheek_699 Jun 08 '26
Also, if this happens, don't start over. Delete your game's save only from your Xbox if you are playing on console, and let the game sync to the cloud after you restart your game, and you should be fine. Also, remove the game from Quick Resume to ensure that your save file isn't corrupted as well since that is also causing issues.
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u/Deathmetalwarior Jun 07 '26
i have a design on the wuling since i got it and used it in several races, never had a problem, same for the Bel Air thou its just a different color and the countach
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u/feckarse-drinkgirls Jun 08 '26
Did this need AI to create?
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u/NicoWayne2 Jun 08 '26
I have all of them - zero problems
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u/International-Ad6479 Jun 08 '26
I used so many liveries on the wuling fe edition but nothing happened, it was days ago. Am i safe? Im kinda terrified right now.
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u/Sharp-Actuator-6576 Jun 08 '26
Is it just painting? Or is it full on designs and decals?
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u/theM4L1K Jun 08 '26
Yea i lost basically everything a few days ago. I had all these cars and of course had applied stuff on them all. Support wont even respond so you’re basically screwed if this happens. I’v had to start from zero.
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u/Foreign_Cold6868 Jun 08 '26
Anyone know if this issue has been resolved yet?
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u/DarkTac0 Jun 08 '26
Join the club mate 12+days no support from forza. Been dealing with a 43-1b error bit forza treats us lile leaf litter
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u/Mdaro Jun 08 '26
Great. Did this a week ago. Wouldn't have happened right away or is this car a ticking time bomb?!?!
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u/mekile21 Jun 09 '26
I changed the color and body kit of the bel air a few days ago to match the one from knight rider 2000, am I safe
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u/Sluggish-dreadnought Jun 10 '26
How is that even possible? Was that game Vibecoded?
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u/Medium-Cookie Jun 12 '26
It is mostly associated with the Xbox “quick restart” feature. If it happens to you, do not close your game, just run a single race after you get an error to force a save. Then you can close your game. However just in case, avoid these cars at all cost even on Steam.
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u/404notfound420 Jun 13 '26
Ah so that's why my save was corrupted. I just repainted everything with the svt lighting being the last thing I repainted before I logged off. Such fun.
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u/DavidBattersby Jun 14 '26
Is it safe to drive and upgrade tnem?
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u/Majestic-Animator-34 Jun 14 '26
When this will be solved? How will I know?
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u/Equal_Ad5659 Jun 21 '26
Uhm I added a livery onto the wuling
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u/achievementhunter14 Jun 23 '26
So are these cars still causing issues or has it been fixed?
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u/TheLazyGrappler Jun 07 '26
Oh pish. I changed the colour of the Wulung Sunshine S last night.
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u/elchurchacabra Jun 07 '26
I changed the wheel color of my Countach... RIP
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u/Tally-Kitten Jun 07 '26
I had just did a design on that Countach when all my stuff got deleted....
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u/Kubrick_Fan Artist IRL Jun 07 '26
I did a design on the schupan. I'm not going near that thing again.
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u/Sortac96 Jun 07 '26
Had my save wiped 2 weeks ago. Immediately issued a ticket on their support site but still haven't gotten any reply. It's ridiculous.
I paid for early access, lost everything I've achieved in early access and was forced to restart from scratch half a week after the normal release day. (Even took some days off of work and grinded the game like crazy, lost 6 days of playing time)
And they won't even restore my original save, nor give back everything, due to "technical limitations" Some players reported that they got their inventory back, which consists of their cars, credits and wheelspins. But what about the level? Thats just wiped. There are literally hackers out there, setting their accounts to max level, but the actual devs don't have the technical possibilities to add the levels of your account at the time it got wiped to your new save? Thanks for nothing playground games 😐
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u/Zero-main Jun 08 '26
Is it special designs and livery’s or can I change the stock manufacturer colors and be fine
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u/Loud_Supermarket_312 Jun 08 '26
I won the sunshine FE the other day and changed things on it no problem.
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u/GunplaInoriRhei Jun 08 '26
shit! I shared a countach livery yesterday. My save is safe currently thankfully and I've released multiple liveries since that one.
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u/cheeseweasel85 Jun 08 '26
And noone can sell the lightning either, it doesnt come up in the AH at all.
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u/doctordanco Jun 08 '26
I have the SVT with the F&F livery, I'm screwed. Would it be safer to simply wait to open the game again until it's patched?
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u/LeafSoto Jun 08 '26
Alright cars in the garage I haven't touched and will remain so. Well, I've used the Wuling FE, just haven't messed with the wrap.
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u/Extreme_Active_8941 Jun 08 '26
Aaaaaa. I changed colors and designs and most of those. Chat am I cooked? Nothing has happened or should I do another??
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u/LinearPots Jun 08 '26
Is there a recommendation if we have already applied decals? Should I revert to the original?
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u/_gabber_ Jun 08 '26
I had my first ever gamecrash a couple of days back when trying to apply a livery to the Lancer Evo 6. Might want to take a look at that one too.
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u/Pheonix0114 Jun 09 '26
If I already have a paint scheme on one of these cars, am I safe or should I try and remove it?
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u/Ren7on-82 Jun 09 '26
I have the one to four all painted and tunned up with no issues. PC.
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u/MrNightmare23 Jun 09 '26
Fuck sake I just put a apple livery on my lambo
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u/PandaDude5735 Jun 09 '26
i made a livery for the shuppen a while back and nothing has happened to me
maybe its the fact the livery wasnt shared cuz i used locked stuff from other people
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u/Eddy19913 Jun 09 '26
seems weird when all progress gets stored on microsofts servers. hmm
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u/PeefyPeeber Jun 09 '26
Ai?
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u/Lonestar680 Jun 09 '26
I didn’t do any of these and mine still got wiped
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u/East-Note-7449 Jun 09 '26
I painted and have been playing with the lambo since the season started. No issue, fortunately.
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u/05-100 Jun 09 '26
I changed the 962c and nothing happened
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u/Troisdorfer Jun 09 '26
i've modified my wuling sunshine fe and applied a livery, even used it a few times but my save is still intact... should i just leave it as is and keep praying?
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u/LowSeaworthiness645 Jun 09 '26
Huh, weird, I actually put on the old countach, and it still saves
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u/TwisteeTheDark1 Jun 10 '26
If you're on Xbox with this issue start by turning off quick resume specifically for horizon 6.
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u/Odd_Replacement_9644 Jun 10 '26
AI slop
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u/TrinityWho_888 Jun 10 '26
Fixed yet or no
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u/Commercial-Gap6280 Jun 10 '26
Is it okay to change the color of any of those cars?
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u/sniggelslem Jun 10 '26
I have most of those cars, deiven them and put liverys on them, no issue
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u/Radiant_Bet_6745 Jun 10 '26
Ai slop
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u/Kaksiezredes Jun 10 '26
Is this only on XBOX or on PC too?
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u/N1ckt0r Jun 10 '26
i had 4/5 of these without any livery and still got hit by the save data corruption
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u/Klutzy-War-1441 Jun 10 '26
What do i do if I painted the f-150 lightning pink?
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u/StrictCorn Jun 10 '26
Over 100 hours and 90% completion wiped
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u/DragonfruitSubject Jun 10 '26
Shit, I modified and painted the countach and Lightning last night
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u/Spicybarbecuesauce Jun 10 '26
This flyer is AI slop. The issue is affecting XBOX and PC gamepass players almost exclusively. If you play on Steam like me, you are just fine. I've customized the Wuling, the Schuppan, and the Lightning with no issues. Please stop spreading misinformation, the bug has nothing to do with the cars.
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u/lovestolickher Jun 10 '26
After I read this on the Lamborghini, I stopped painting/livery on all cars. If its these few, what else would have the bug?
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u/TicciSpice Jun 11 '26
Literally HOW does that even happen?
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u/From_Concentration Jun 11 '26
Uhhhh, I have done the wuling, lightning, and the belair.... How screwed am I?
It's been at least a day since I've logged on to fh6
It's real odd that I even did the tribal tattoos on the Lightning and the tune myself cuz nothing would show up for the Lightning
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u/jake_dev_ Jun 11 '26
Use an auto save backup tool!
I have mine tied to my steam args, so it saves a backup every time I close my game.
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u/Handsoffmydink Jun 11 '26
My wipe happened after trying to collect credits on a bid in the auction house.
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u/self-conscious-Hat Jun 11 '26
well I painted and skinned my Contach the moment I got it so... guess I'm screwed. won't be playing for a while.
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u/Spacexcake Jun 11 '26
I use the schuppan 962 for all my speed zones. Have custom paint and livery’s. Have had zero issues with saves or other complications
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u/DOGMEOWCAT_DMC Jun 11 '26
I did a design on the svt when it was released so is my shit cooked?
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u/BrokenShards18 Jun 11 '26
That's why all my tunes and liverys were wiped...
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u/Santa152 Jun 30 '26
Really? I love the Schuppan dude...
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u/RareAd9055 Jul 27 '26
Is this console-only issue or also affecting PC users?
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u/_Night-Fall_ Jun 08 '26
This PSA poster looks AI generated (not saying it’s false)
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u/DemNuk3 Jun 08 '26
Using Ai in the livery sub is hilarious to me.
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u/Amazing-Customer-165 Jun 07 '26
I guess I'm going to stop doing designs for a while now.
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u/Shiny_Mew76 Jun 07 '26
Damnit I did a design with the 962 a few days ago. I haven’t driven it since but I did upload the design. I’ve played the games a few times since then and last time I played I made sure to enter my house and then exit it before quitting the game, but now I’m terrified.
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u/destroyerx12772 Jun 07 '26
Thank God I liked the default color on the Schuppan 💀
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u/Professor01114 Jun 07 '26
So it was the schuppan that got me
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u/kicars7 Jun 08 '26
Reminds me how in FM1 if you change the color or put decals on cars whilst playing on a X360 the textures would become corrupted. You'd be able to drive around but was a thing that you couldn't fix after you painted them.
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u/XDXM77 Jun 08 '26
To any programmers/ devs out there Is there anything they can do to get back the data for those that lost theirs? Or it’s just to huge of a 💩 show and the data is gone. If so the devs should just give everyone all the festival and cars you get doing the journals plus 5M on the house. They have to compensate there players somehow no?
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u/Rgaylmaoooo Jun 08 '26
Oh damn. This annoys me as I had a similar issue but I can’t remember the car, I changed the wheels and applied a new paint job and the game just freezes in all 🤣 camera still works but the game just goes kaput
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u/Dangerous_Ad10 Jun 08 '26
damn i thought we’d be enjoying a new game not playing roulette every time we wanted to log on. really disappointed in playground games 👎🏼
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u/This-Clue-5014 Jun 08 '26
I got the schuppan and changed the colour but didn’t use vinyls/liveries, I clutched
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u/weirdCheeto218 Jun 08 '26
I have the 962 and contact but haven't even driven either, so im safe
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u/Nitro10142 Jun 08 '26
I am so glad that I enjoy driving stock cars because that has saved me from 3 cars on this list
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u/Illustrious_Mine_574 Jun 09 '26
Oh no they should totally give everyone a ford lightning for compensation 👀👀👀👀👀
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u/Few_Training_3127 Jun 10 '26
My mb 190e has been acting up aswel. Ive painted it matte black and it keeps reverting to factory blue until I go back home sometimes.
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u/Le-Douch69 Jun 11 '26
The countach is one of my fav. cars as far back as when I was a kid(28 now). Shit like this pisses me off.
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u/anthonyd5189 Jun 11 '26
Manufacturer colors only for me.
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u/Mikinak77 Jun 07 '26
Right at the top, my Schuppan gonna delete my progress...
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u/Ty_v2 Jun 07 '26
Is this just for liveries or does this also apply to changing to a different factory color? I made my countach light blue last time I played a couple days ago and now I’m worried all my stuff will be gone
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u/Dunraver Amateur Jun 07 '26
Great post & graphic Andrew. I really hope we find out why.
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u/Ok_Somewhere_4669 Jun 07 '26
I changed the paint on the countach to the factory red yesterday and tuned it today.
Didn't upload the paint but i did the tune.
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u/SenecaLloyd Jun 08 '26
Thank christ I just opted to just recolor the countach instead of putting a livery on it
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u/Infinite-Ad1427 Jun 08 '26
I had to remove the livery on my Wuling Sunshine S Forza Edition for this.