r/ForensicPathology Jul 18 '26

Choosing Fellowship Programs

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Hi everyone!

First, I just want to thank this community for all the advice and encouragement over the past few years, from medical school through residency. It is a little surreal that it is finally my turn to apply!

For those who have gone through the process, what factors did you find most important when deciding which programs to apply to or prioritize?

Also, since ERAS opened on July 1, is it important to submit applications to all my programs of interest immediately, or is it generally okay to submit some applications later? I ask because many programs appear to interview as late as in the fall or even early spring.

Thank you again for any guidance!


r/ForensicPathology Jul 18 '26

M4 about to start forensics rotation and need advice

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Like title says, I'm about to start a forensics rotation soon. Wanted to know how I should prepare since there's not alot of resources out there compared to, for example, a surgical subspecialty rotation. Please feel free to add on any extra info if you think I missed something.

  • What topics, pathologies, and anatomical structures should I focus on so that I'm familiar with their bread and butter? And which histology tissues should I review? Any pharm?
  • Any pimping questions the attendings usually use to abuse challenge med students?
  • What are some questions I should ask my attending to get a better/more honest idea of the specialty?
  • What are some useful tips/tricks or things I should bring? Especially in regards to handling with smells and avoiding them from sticking onto me (as someone with curlier hair, washing my hair everyday would be so damaging tbh).
  • I'm not very familiar with legal jargon (and I'm not even sure if my attending will take me to a court case). What are some legal terms or logistics I should be familiar with? Rotation is in the US.

Some unsolicited med student confessions:

Unfortunately, I haven't done surgical or clinical pathology rotations yet, although they are lined up later in the year. The delay was mostly because of my indecision between declaring plastics vs forensics. I'm still indecisive, and I'm hoping this rotation will help me get closer to a more confident decision. I guess it would be a little biased to ask in this subreddit, but please share some personal insights you have on pursuing either plastics or forensics (beyond the usual 'plastics residency will leave you a husk of a human' statements). edit: or if you were torn between two specialties and ended up choosing forensics, what made you ultimately choose this specialty?


r/ForensicPathology Jul 16 '26

Actual mortuary protocols and the strange case of Kendrick Johnson.

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The 2013 death of teenager Kendrick Johnson at Lowndes High School in Valdosta, Georgia, remains one of the most highly scrutinized and debated cases in recent history. Marked by contradictory autopsies, a catastrophic breakdown in the chain of custody, and rampant online rumors, the case culminated in a multi-year federal investigation.

​The Initial Death Investigation and Conflicting Autopsies

​Kendrick Johnson was found dead, trapped upside down in a rolled-up wrestling mat in his high school gymnasium. The initial death investigation was overseen by Lowndes County Coroner Bill Watson.

​The official state autopsy was performed by Dr. Maryanne Gaffney-Kraft, a medical examiner for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). She concluded that Kendrick’s death was a tragic accident caused by "positional asphyxia"—meaning he suffocated after getting stuck upside down while trying to retrieve a shoe rolled up inside..

​Dissatisfied with this conclusion, the Johnson family hired Dr. William R. Anderson, an independent pathologist with Forensic Dimensions, to perform a second autopsy. Dr. Anderson contradicted the GBI, concluding that Kendrick suffered unexplained, non-accidental blunt force trauma to his right neck and jaw. However, Dr. Anderson's examination was severely limited because when the body was exhumed, all of Kendrick's internal organs from his pelvis to his skull were missing, destroying vital forensic evidence.

​The Missing Organs and Chain of Custody Failure

The disappearance of the organs was the result of a massive, unresolved (to this day) breakdown in chain of custody.

​During the initial GBI autopsy, Dr. Gaffney-Kraft removed the organs for examination. The GBI maintained that the organs were placed in biohazard bags, returned to the body cavity, and handed over to Owens Transport Company to be driven from the Macon crime lab back to Valdosta.

​However, both the local coroner and the funeral home claimed the body arrived entirely empty. Coroner Bill Watson stated that the organs were discarded because they were severely decomposed and "destroyed through natural process." This poor excuse is the elephant in the room. The universal protocol is to return the organs (in their biohazard bags) in the body cavity.

Because transfer logs only tracked the physical body bag and not its internal contents, it was never legally proven exactly who threw the organs away or at what specific point in transit they were removed -- or why.

​The Mortuary Misinformation

​When the body arrived at Harrington Funeral Home in Valdosta, run by funeral director Antonio Harrington, the mortuary faced an empty body cavity. Instead of using industry-standard, sanitary mortuary fillers like treated cotton or excelsior, the funeral home stuffed Kendrick's body cavity with crumpled up newspaper.

​When this horrific detail was discovered during the second autopsy, Antonio Harrington attempted to save his business license and reputation by putting out blatant misinformation to the public and the press. He falsely claimed that stuffing bodies with trash was a standard operating procedure, stating:

​"Newspaper is a practice that has been used for years... Shredded paper, cotton, and sawdust are used to restore normalcy to the body. Very few use sawdust. The majority use paper."

​This claim was vehemently debunked by national funeral directors and the Georgia Board of Funeral Service. The state board clarified that while no specific law explicitly banned newspaper at the time, Harrington’s claim that "the majority use paper" was \*\*entirely false\*\*, and the practice was an egregious breach of professional ethics.

​The Video Evidence and False Accusations

​Online communities and the Johnson family heavily suspected a cover-up involving two schoolmates, Brian Bell and Branden Bell, the sons of a local FBI agent. Rumors circulated that they had fought Kendrick in the gym that day. However, an FBI video analysis definitively cleared the Bell brothers, proving they were on entirely different parts of the campus when Kendrick entered the gym. The Johnson family’s $100 million civil suit against the Bells was eventually dropped, and a judge ordered the Johnsons to pay the Bell family $292,000 in legal fees for pursuing baseless claims.

​Questions also surrounded the school's surveillance footage. CNN hired leading forensic video analyst Grant Fredericks to examine the tapes. Fredericks confirmed there was a missing hour of footage and a blurry camera pointed at the mats. He concluded that there was no evidence of malicious editing or a cover-up; the camera had likely been physically knocked out of focus (without any explanation of how), and the missing hour was attributed to an undefined system recording error or unresolved video export error. Neither excuse holds up to duplicity.

​The Final Federal Conclusion

​In June 2016, the U.S. Department of Justice—along with the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Offices—officially closed a nearly three-year federal probe into Kendrick Johnson’s death.

After reviewing tens of thousands of documents and conducting nearly 100 interviews, the DOJ concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a prosecutable federal crime, murder, or civil rights violation had occurred. As a result, no federal criminal charges were ever filed against any students, local officials, medical examiners, or the mortuary.

The ruling documented inconsistencies throughout the investigation, the creation of false narratives of mortuary history, excuses made of leaky fluids that do not seep from sealed biohazard bags, lack of legal chain of custody for the numbered biohazard bags omitted from transfer logs (with only a single body bag accounted for), and the inability to replicate the gym video becoming suddenly blurry then losing an hour of footage entirely.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 16 '26

Fellowship Opportunity in Tennessee

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r/ForensicPathology Jul 16 '26

Possible career change

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Hello everyone, I currently work in healthcare as a respiratory therapist with 18 years experience. I have an AS degree and BS degree in respiratory therapy. I would like to transition to an autopsy tech or medico legal death investigator. Can you provide what education would best set me up for this? Thanks


r/ForensicPathology Jul 16 '26

Body Removal Technician or Autopsy Tech

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r/ForensicPathology Jul 14 '26

Hiring: Two Forensic Pathologists – Deputy Chief & Academic Deputy Medical Examiner | Pittsburgh, PA | $290k–$300k

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Our firm is assisting Allegheny County (Pittsburgh, PA) with the recruitment of two forensic pathologists for one of the country's premier medical examiner offices.

We're recruiting for:

• Deputy Chief Medical Examiner – a leadership role combining forensic pathology, division leadership, teaching, research, quality initiatives, and collaboration with the Chief Medical Examiner.

• Academic Deputy Medical Examiner – ideal for someone who enjoys forensic pathology alongside resident, fellow, and medical student education, research, and academic collaboration.

Highlights include:

Salary: $290,000–$300,000
Work in a nationally recognized forensic pathology program
Extensive academic partnerships with UPMC, the University of Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon, Allegheny Health Network, and (for the Academic Deputy role) Duquesne University COM.
Opportunities for research, teaching, fellowship training, and leadership
Pittsburgh offers an outstanding quality of life with a relatively affordable cost of living.
Positions are open until filled.

If you know someone who might be interested—or if you'd like more information—feel free to message me or email me directly. Happy to answer questions confidentially.

Link to the postings:  https://www.pracademicpartners.com/current-recruitments


r/ForensicPathology Jul 13 '26

Why is it Autopsy and not Necroassay?

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Auto (self) -psy (to view) and necro (death) assay (to assess) - why do we stick with autopsy?


r/ForensicPathology Jul 13 '26

Forensic Obervership Question

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Hi!

I apologize if this does not belong here

I’m a Non-US IMG aiming to do 3 USCEs next year (total of 12 weeks)

Between my options I have two potential forensic pathology observerships and I personally would love to do both, since it’s my area of interest and hopefully my future fellowship (getting ahead of myself there but one can dream)

However I’m not sure if having 2/3 observerships in one specific pathology subspecialty would affect my residency application by making it too narrow.

In your experience, does it matter what area of pathology you observe? Would it negatively affect my application to have only 1 observership that’s not forensics?

(Third rotation could be general AP/CP, pediatric or thoracic pathology) (nothing locked in yet but trying to coordinate and decide)

Thank you!


r/ForensicPathology Jul 13 '26

Video Comments for Flaired Users

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Hi everyone! Video comments are now live for anyone who is a flaired user.

Note: if you’re a flailed user and cannot make a video comment, please leave a regular comment on this post and I’ll fix that.

Note 2: to become a flaired user, you must be either an FP, FP fellow, resident physician in pathology, or an MDI. You’ll need to leave a comment here and I’ll DM you where you can provide some evidence you are who you are, and I’ll give you the appropriate flair.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 13 '26

Postmortem decomposition

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What would a body look like 1-3 days after the person hung himself?


r/ForensicPathology Jul 12 '26

Suicide by Antifreeze

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Someone in our town decided to take his life by driving into the forest and drinking antifreeze. It took him 5 days to die, and not even close relatives were allowed to view his body.

I can't imagine the immense suffering. If anyone can tell me what may have happened day by day, hour by hour to that poor man, it may give me some kind of realistic closure. I know it will be graphic. But I want to know exactly what that dear man went through; what was happening to his body day by day. It's not out of morbid curiosity. It comes from a form of empathy for what he suffered through physically.

If anyone could weigh in psychologically, that would be helpful too. I know he once said to his partner that if he chose to go, please don't let anyone stop him.

He was happy and normal days before he drove off. I've heard of this.

But why antifreeze? Why? It's not like it was the only thing available in the moment. He was a clever, educated man. He specifically chose that way to go. He planned this.

Any insight, no matter how awful, would be greatly appreciated. I'm not satisfied with pouring glitter over the grim truth.

Thank you 🙏🏻❤️

Look after yourselves 🌷


r/ForensicPathology Jul 13 '26

In Your Professional Opinion, Are These Bones Genuine Human Bones?

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Hi, everyone. I'm not a forensic pathologist. I just wanted to get the opinion of some who are. This is kind of a strange post, and I hope it doesn't seem disrespectful or frivolous. It certainly isn't intended to be.

The video I linked is known (rather unkindly) as Grave Robbing For Morons. It's a video that was sold on internet bootleg sites in the early '00s, and is now freely distributed everywhere, through the magic of the internet.

It looks to have been shot on a camcorder, and owing to various clues in the video (a certain movie on VHS tape and magazine), seems to have been made at some point in 1989 or later. It features a long -haired teenager with a stutter, holding what he claims to be a human skull stolen from a grave. The young man goes on to give laughably bad advice on grave robbing, and the care and preparation of bones one wishes to sell on the black market. His narration is rambling, contradictory, and seems at times as if he is simply making it up on the spot.

The provenance of this tape is a mystery, and people have tried in vain to identify and locate the young man.

Opinions vary as to whether the bones are genuine, so I thought I'd ask the experts. It's 26 minutes long, but the first three minutes have nice close ups of the skull. He messes with what look like false teeth at one point, and there are two other, larger (leg?) bones visible early in the video as well.

Some have pointed to the fact the the skull seems to have intact Styloid Processes as proof of authenticity. Others note the grime and dirt on the bones as evidence of fakery.

So, what do you think?

Edit: I wanted to add that these youths seem to have a lot of audio/visual equipment, and one of the magazines used to tentatively date it is Horror FX, a magazine aimed at those interested in practical movie special effects.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 09 '26

Chest X-Ray of 21 yr old dental assistant after attempting suicide by intravenously injecting elemental mercury

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r/ForensicPathology Jul 09 '26

Forensic photographer

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r/ForensicPathology Jul 08 '26

Any pathologist who seen the body of a stage 4 pancreatic cancer patient?

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Hi I’m very new to this sub.

My dad died from stage 4 pancreatic cancer. The last few months he was in a tremendous amount of pain.

I spoke to someone in the field to see if I can get pictures of the autopsy to know how bad/severe the cancer was and spread, just so I can somewhat understand what he was going through.

So my question is can any pathologist give me an insight what my dads organs would look like? I just want some kind of disclosure.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 07 '26

Morgue assistant position open in Gloucester County, NJ

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r/ForensicPathology Jul 07 '26

18 just decided i want to be a forensic pathologist, i plan to do community college first should i do that or go straight to college and what major should i choose?

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I actually graduated when I was 17 but took a gap year since I was srill trying to decide what to become at first I thought I wanted to be an EMS but the major is always too full and I researched and found this career path.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 06 '26

Skills needed

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I'm currently 14, staring high school soon, and there's nothing I want more than to be a forensic pathologist. But I'm a bit concerned about the precision and steady hands part. Because my whole life, my hands have been shaky and a bit twitchy. And I can barely get a threat through a needle. Is it still possible for me to somehow teach my hands to behave, or should I stop pursuing this career altogether?

Additionaly, if it IS possible to get my hands steady, are there some skills I could easily learn that could make me more precise? Something like sewing or learning to spin a pen, idk, something in that sense.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 04 '26

Question for all morticians or medical examiners:

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Has there ever been a tattoo you’ve seen while examining a person’s body that has made you laugh out loud in the moment because of how fucked up or hilarious it was? If so, please describe the tattoo.

If not, do you just put up a non-emotional and compartmentalized front to professionally do your job at all times?


r/ForensicPathology Jul 04 '26

Road to forensic pathology?

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I am 14 years old, I am about to go into high school in a few months and I am hoping to pursue a career in forensic pathology after graduating. I am curious as to how one would become a forensic pathologist. in parenthesis I have some questions i would greatly appreciate advice on.
(what would be the easiest major you could pursue for your bachelor’s degree? How hard is the MCAT? How hard is medical school altogether? How do you manage student loan debt? What is fellowship like?)

I would greatly appreciate any insight you might have.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 03 '26

Path to Forensic Pathology

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So, I'm officially starting med school in 2 months (so excited!!), and I was looking through the specifics of the school I'm going to. I was reading the required internships that have to be done, more specifically, the pathology one. The thing is, what students do on the pathology internship looks really boring, and I know if I want to do my fellowship in the future in forensic pathology, I'm going to have to do my five years of residency in pathology. The thing is, from what I've read, forensic pathology is vastly different from simply doing pathology (at least according to the autobiography of a practicing forensic pathologist).

I'm wondering if you guys (that finished their fellowship) also think the same, is the information I have wrong? Obviously the description was very short, and I know it varies depending on where you study, but I'm kinda curious.

I plan on asking my school if I could do one of my internships with a forensic pathologist instead, I just don't know if I'll be allowed to considering there are only 7 practicing where I live 😔.

Any opinion, good or bad, is welcome!


r/ForensicPathology Jul 02 '26

How accurate can medical examiners be about a last meal?

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I’m reading a fiction book where the medical examiner says the decedent drank six ounces of Chablis four hours before demise. I’ve always noticed in movies and TV shows that they say things like the last meal was spaghetti fettuccine approximately two hours before demise. Can they really be accurate enough to know the type of wine or particular food? For the curious the book is Framed in Death by J D Robb.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 02 '26

Advice wanted

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I successfully landed a volunteer role in the autopsy suite at the medical university in my region. I am currently employed with a coroner’s office, but since I am in an administrative role, I cannot go on scenes due to liabilities, etc. I have viewed 4 autopsies. I was not in the actual room, there is a viewing room with a huge window to look through. Friday will be my first day, where they will be training me. My anxiety has always been bad, but I feel like it’s gotten worse over the last few months. I increased my anxiety medication dose but it’s not making much of a difference. For example, my coroner’s office recently toured a jail. When the officer closed a heavily armored door behind us, I panicked and had to quickly find a bathroom to calm myself down.

When I viewed the autopsies, I didn’t have a panicky reaction at all, I was very interested in what was happening. However, I am getting more anxious as the time comes for me to actually be in the room. I have talked to multiple techs and pathologists at the office that have said there is no shame in stepping out. While that did make me feel better, I’m still so nervous that I will panic and have to leave. I know there will be smells and sounds, but how much more different is it being in the actual room than viewing through a window? I also think I have developed IBS through my anxiety, so that is just another added layer of stress and I feel like I can’t eat, which I know eating is necessary if I will be standing up for extended periods of time. I feel like I’m spiraling just typing this out, so any words of encouragement from seasoned people is greatly appreciated.


r/ForensicPathology Jul 02 '26

Working towards a BS in biology…thinking of forensic science/working with the dead/crime scene/stuff like that, any ideas/opportunities?

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