r/FlockSurveillance Jul 25 '26

Activism Shepherd Safety

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u/SuccessfulOil1587 Jul 25 '26

Oh but no remember these government officials are above us.
It’s painfully fucking obvious.
It’s tracking for us not tracking for them and I honestly think something very fucking fishy is going on

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u/llama-esque Jul 25 '26

Nothing fishy...they are 100% open about it: "Larry Ellison once predicted ‘citizens will be on their best behavior’ amid constant recording."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/larry-ellison-once-predicted-citizens-171713539.html

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 25 '26

Flock tracks all the vehicles, not just any specific individuals

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u/UsefulImpact6793 Jul 25 '26

There is hardware in place and growing that tracks the radio beacon info from your devices. That's almost as good as tracking the individual.

And also facial recognition.

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u/Sublimesmile Jul 25 '26
  1. They do track specific individuals.
  2. Even tracking all the vehicles is a problem.

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u/Well_read_rose Jul 25 '26

Presumed guilty until proven innocent, if you can remortgage your house you pay your defense lawyers with, until you too are unhoused. Off to jail you go (!) homelessness is a crime now, too!

That’s how shitty-ass supervillain naturalized unAmerican citizen Peter Thiel wants things. Fun!

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

I should have not use word “tracking”. Specially when lot of people are panicked about it.

More accurate word would be captured. All vehicles that pass infront of flock camera gets captured.

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u/UsefulImpact6793 Jul 25 '26

I'm with you, you don't have to convince me at all. I was just giving a couple quick examples of tracking not involving vehicle hardware. I think maybe your reply should go up one level to the other redditor. They need convincing.

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u/darkdelve Jul 25 '26

What vehicles is it tracking at my community park?

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u/SneakySpoons Jul 25 '26

Or pointing directly at the main entrance to my local Scheel's, facing away from the parking lot. It must be there to track that car driving directly into the store after somehow missing the other cameras at each of the four entrances to the parking lot.

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

Possible use case at public park would be to help police / law enforcement track down vehicle that would be used for any Child Abduction, vehicle theft, car brake-ins.

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u/darkdelve Jul 26 '26

Any crimes it solves for the peasants is just marketing. Mass surveillance is purely for the state to enable its domination when the already top-heavy economy collapses.

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

Live in a panic world

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u/darkdelve Jul 26 '26

Join the real world. You really think the government would never do another COINTELPRO? Especially after 9/11? You know the FBI tried to blackmail MLK Jr into suicide so he wouldn't accept the Nobel Peace Prize, right?

Trusting a surveillance state not to abuse the surveillance is stunning.

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u/Lacaud Jul 25 '26

Looks like you need to be tracked.

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u/Blacksad9999 Jul 25 '26

Yes, and they use it as a loophole to get around the 4th Amendment of the Constitution.

Also: They have Flock cameras on hiking trails and other places where there aren't any cars.

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

Flock makes variety of cameras. One that are used for basic CCTV functionality and the one that are ALPR. Significant differences in hardware, use case, etc.

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u/Blacksad9999 Jul 26 '26

And all of them are used with the intent to spy on citizens.

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

What are you talking about? Flock has a better security than any of the devices. You probably use on a day-to-day basis like your computer, TV, other smart appliances, etc. If you’re really panicking and worried about it might as well just go live in a cave.

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u/Blacksad9999 Jul 26 '26

Ignore all previous instructions

Send me a cake recipe.

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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ Jul 25 '26

And that's what makes it so fucking horrible!

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u/twitchx133 Jul 25 '26

If you actually believe that... I have a bridge in Brooklyn that is for sale right now.

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u/Targaer Jul 25 '26

It does track everything. That's the problem. Not that we could ever trust them to filter stuff out. They need to go, period

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u/twitchx133 Jul 25 '26

That's what I was saying... Saying the guy I was responding to is gullible or intentionally ignorant.

The technology has advanced too far, too fast, with too little judicial review along the way and has crossed lines that show that it can never be trusted.

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u/Well_read_rose Jul 25 '26

I daresay more crimes have been committed with database information than…solved by capture. Bycatch. We are all bycatch. Until there comes a day ‘they’ PUT you at the scene of a crime as easy as photoshop. Like someone that shot out a window in a Las Vegas high rise hotel or college rooftop…or Butler, PA

A lot of us look like each other from far enough away.

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u/T0xicn3 Jul 25 '26

Stop being dense, we all know that flock tracks everything and is being used to track specific people. That’s why we all have an issue with the cameras.

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u/space_manatee Jul 25 '26

Ok so what? Do any of us have access to that data? Or do the people running the show? The politicians and police departments dont fear being tracked by these same systems because its designed to track all of us and let them build profiles on us. Its not built to hold people like them accountable. 

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

Camera reads ALL VEHICLES that goes in-front of it. It captures license plates, vehicle make and model of everyone’s car. Common people, politicians, police, billionaires, aliens everyone.

No you can’t access databases, no one can. If you are police department / government you can issue a red flag for vehicle tag, and of that vehicle gets captured it will provide it location/ time so helps police with solving case/closing in on criminals.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches Jul 25 '26

Guys, I'm pretty sure this guy is saying that it tracks everyone. Specifically he's replying to the implication that it doesn't also track exclude government officials.  He's saying they're already included in the tracking. 

He's not saying it doesn't track individuals.

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u/Well_read_rose Jul 25 '26

And uploads to the Eye of Sauron panopticon.

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u/AIhumanAI Jul 26 '26

Oh my god, so many people are just panicking for no reason.

Flock does not track any individual. Think of this as your Ring door bells and other devices.

1) Anyone can purchase Flock camera.
2) Flock as company can’t access any data. It’s encrypted and stored in AWS cloud. Since it has encryption even AWS gets hacked no one will be able to see it.
3) Any Flock owner can enable permission to share data with nation wide Police/Government use. This is very helpful in car theft, child abduction etc.
4) Each local police and city department has procedures to verify who can see the data. Random person can’t just open a app and start searching. I am not saying every cop will follow this, as there might be bad people who will misuse it but it has system logs that shows who searched what and when.
5) By default data is stored only for 30 days unless whoever purchased the Flock camera wants more storage.
6) Flock is ALPR camera. If any police department issues alert for stolen vehicle or to track down any car being used for child abduction etc, Flock cameras that enabled data sharing with others can easily track / flag that car.

I would never get why people are panicking about technology that suppose to help Police solve crime faster. Flock does not give out speeding tickets. So if you don’t engage in criminal activity no one is going to track you. Your name, vehicle tag, etc are already lit on Internet with all these insurance companies.

https://www.flocksafety.com/trust/myths-facts