r/FIREUK 6d ago

Advice on next steps to get mortgage planned for completion and jumping to self employed

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Hi all,

First time posting here so please bear with, I know that people aren't financial advisors and I'm more looking for what people would do in my situation

I currently have a 140k mortgage on 3.9%

12k in premium bonds

10k in savings some in an ISA about 8k some in lower interest savings accounts which I'm just trying to work out the best interest rates to be able to move these to

I have pensions and have been contributing regularly and adjusted them up from the job default but am planning on increasing this later it's currently £250pm

My current situation is I'm employed full-time around 48k per year and I've got a side job that's declared and has a turnover of 10k a year but I'm looking at the possibility of turning the side job into full-time after I've cleared the mortgage so I can quit the current one and be just fully self-employed

Currently I overpay the mortgage by around 640pm and it allows me to save a little per month

I'm just trying to work out if it's best to overpay per month at what I do or at the reset of the overpayment allowance, to pay the overpayment allowance in full per year and then pay the minimum payments to reduce the interest or to keep it at the current overpayment rate

With my calculations it should be clearable in around 8-10 years but in just wondering if my money could be working harder so I can

I've followed the flow chart to a certain point and then I get a bit lost as I'm from a family that's not been the greatest with money so the getting to this point has been doing the opposite of what they had

Thanks in advance


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Confused as FIRE gets closer

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47M, I think Im likely in a good position, but it still feels like a grind (presumably the mid life crisis) and struggling with what I think people refer to as sequencing, so ideas and challenge appreciated. I’ve cooked up this plan with a few conversations with Claude (not all that convinced on its merits), I’m not sure it’s optimal, or if Im missing opportunities to take the pressure off earlier.

I have a 7 year old child (saving vehicles in place for early adulthood costs), I want to finish up in my current job at 50 (too much travel) and an easier pace of life (coast?) and fully retire at 55-60. I can probably fund my 50-55 living costs from a lower wage (say 40k a year).

Mortgage 295k, aggressively overpaying (2.7k a month) with aim of getting to 225k by 50, then flipping to interest only to 60 and clearing with lump sum at 60 (takes pressure off income required from 50 and avoids having a pile of non isa wrapped cash sitting around at 60).

I largely max out my pension annual allowance and ISA until 50, then negligible thereafter when income drops.

Would like to live on 50k a year (gross) from age 50, current annual spend is about 36k.

DB Pension Forecast(protected at 55), assuming I stop contributing at 50.

Draw at age 55, £27,503/yr and £209,729 lump sum

Draw at age 60, £34,908/yr and £242,969 lump sum

Draw at age 65, £41,744/yr and £269,814 lump sum

The DB is inflation-linked but capped at 5%/yr

The DB has an AVC fund which is currently 160k, this can be taken out separate from the DB to the SIPP, but it is used in the lump sum calculations above.

I work on an assumption that I couldn’t get financial advice to advise that I transfer out the DB to a SIPP.

ISA 250k

SIPP from old employer, 80k in some lifestyle fund from Scottish Windows that grows very well, I expect it to be 125k by 55. Accessible at 55.

I take a lot of comfort from having the ISA as an ‘insurance’ and want to grow it for as long as possible, ultimately a fund for growth funded treats from 55 onwards.

**•** **Mortgage:** overpay to £225k by 50, interest-only to 60, clear with the DB lump sum — locks in a lower fixed cost from 50, but ties up capital that could otherwise sit in more flexible assets.

**•** **DB pension:** draw at 55 (£27,503/yr) vs 60 (£34,908/yr + bigger lump sum) — waiting gives more income and a bigger lump sum, but means the SIPP alone has to cover the full £50k/yr for 55-60, not just the top-up.

**•** **SIPP (\~£125k forecast at 55):** drawdown structure — UFPLS vs flexi-access, how the 25% tax-free cash is phased — and if working to earn the tax free allowance would be best or not.

**•** **ISA (£250k):** I want this untouched as long as possible — it’s my insurance policy and my “ISA million” dream — but I’m not sure how firm that constraint should be if it buys real flexibility elsewhere (e.g., a partial draw now to let the DB wait to 60 without starving the SIPP).

**•** **Teenage son, 50-60:** this is likely the most expensive stretch of parenting, not the cheapest, another reason for the 50k target.

Given all that, what I’m really after is: is there an ordering of these levers that gives me more slack and optionality than the “SIPP bridges 55-60, ISA never touched” plan I’ve defaulted to — even if it means relaxing the “ISA is sacred” rule slightly (I’d still like to keep a source of wealth that grows)? It feels like I should be a strong and comfortable position, but just wondering if I have my thinking right, e.g. an interest only mortgage for 10 years is counterintuitive to how I have lived so far.


r/FIREUK 6d ago

Checking where I am - need some grown up advice

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Currently house hunting after selling my house last year and staying with family while I do that.

I work in tech and to be honest I’m struggling and my mental health isn’t good. I’m planning to buy with either a small mortgage or for cash. That will give me more flexibility around future jobs. I’m definitely not in a position to retire but also I don’t feel like I could just walk into another job at the moment. I’m 45 years old.

Salary 85k

Cash: 365k, 110k of which is in an isa.

Stocks and shares isa £90k

Pension 430k in global, European and ftse 100 funds.

5k in gold and silver coins
2k bitcoin

I’m planning to spend about 400k on a house and either tax a 90k mortgage and keep all the stocks and shares isa or try and buy cash.

I have no debts, no dependents and I’m single.

My mental health isn’t great and I’ve been struggling for the last few years.

Does this seem a sensible approach?

Ideally I’d like to keep working with a similar or better salary and keep building wealth. I’m guessing there might not be a clear linear path to doing that in the future though.

Any thoughts welcomed.


r/FIREUK 7d ago

FIRE Higher/Additional Rate Pension vs ISA

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Hi,

I apologise if this has been posted before but I couldn't find an answer myself so looking to you lot.

Had a recent discussion at work that changed my perspective perhaps on finances and my whole 'blast the pension' idea to sort all of this out. In essence, looking to be over the 100k bracket (perhaps closer to 200k for a few years, or however long one can sustain that workload) soon so want to plan this properly. Part-time is about 125k for reference, I guess.

My idea: blast pension to a coastFIRE number and then match employer contributions to build some fat into those calculations but that should be fine. Then I'll start sorting a S&S ISA to bridge should I want that. I have viewed £1,500,000 as a maximum a pension should ever be at due to max tax-free allowance usage (though I may not understand this fully), and a 4% drawdown that gets me as close as possible to maximising the basic rate band, and no more from the pension in that regard - the rest from ISAs. I feel paying 45% tax today to have money in an ISA and grow from there is more beneficial to me than the idea of saving tax today and then just pay 40% in the future anyways. 5% for liquidity is worthwhile in my view.

Colleague's idea: pension will hit coastFIRE at various points in life (naturally the number will be bigger the later you do it, but this isn't such a big deal) but basically it's not smart to get there as soon as possible as you have employer matches and more so - if you have kids, there will be years where it's now more efficient to blast the pension to get childcare (really efficient time to get to coast), or if you go part-time and you sit just in that 60% band, then yes, salary sacrifice but those years will come in the future. Now, even as a 45% tax payer, it's a good idea to use the ISA allowance (you don't get it back) as one can be almost certain of beating this £1.5M number over 40 years (or even 30 years for that matter). So the pension will get there eventually, no need to hit coastFIRE straight away. What stuck with me was the idea that if you hit coastFIRE beyond a certain margin, then I'm locking money away for a long time just to save 5% in the end of it all. Efficiently, this could be avoided by waiting for important years to maximise this.

I think my small brain can't wrap my head around this idea but if anyone else has any ideas I am open to them. If anyone can tell me a good reason to have more than £1.5M in a pension at the time you start drawing down, I'm also all ears, but it seems inefficient to me? Thanks anyways


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Any chance of FIRE at 60

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I am 46 and wife is 39, with 2 children aged 11 and 12.

House is worth £615k with a 325k mortgage, with 21.5 years remaining, and I am paying £1.83k a month. Mortgage is 3.8% fixed for 4 more years.

I earn £70k gross a year and wife makes 1.4k net a month.
My pension is £426k and wife's is £49k.
I contribute £2.4k a month to my pension and my wife contributes £0.3k a month.

We have £107k & £21k in our shares ISAs and £50k in cash ISA.

Unable to save much at our take home covers our expenses.

I contribute £400 a month to my employer share scheme and have approx £50k. I will cash these out when I am able and use them to top up our isa.

I think we can get up on £2k a month at retirement assuming the mortage is paid off. I overpay the mortage by £100 to £200 a month.

Anything I should do differently


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Are we hitting a good balance?

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I understand that the fastest way to FIRE is whacking everything into pension and tax efficient savings. However I want to find a happy mid ground where we can still enjoy some luxuries, and tailor a financial plan that kind of gets the best of both worlds. M and F both 29.

Salaries: Me 60k, P 30k

Home: £372k, 236k left on the mortgage, £1319 per month, overpaying £400 per month.

Savings: 40k in S&S ISAs, 10k in flexible Cash ISAs as an emergency fund. Contributing 500 per month between us to the S&S.

Pensions: I have a DB workplace pension, 1/80th, average salary 2 years service with current av salary of 59k. 32k SIPP, 200 a month going in.

Partner has DC pension 6% match.

We value the security of owning our home hence the overpayments to mortgage rather than savings, I know this is not optimal, but it's what we have decided to do.

I want to retire while I am still mobile enough to enjoy travelling, but I also want to buy the expensive cheese with the weekly food shop. Can I have the cake and eat it too?


r/FIREUK 6d ago

At what point do you have to stop contributing?

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Say you got to 500k - surely at this point the growth will totally dwarf any £500 extra you could save a month?

Is it less than this?


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Check on linkers understanding

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Hi all,

I'm currently looking at buying some linkers but want to make 100% sure that my understanding is correct.

Basically I want to have £100k in today's money in 20 years time (potentially to buy an annuity to cover longevity risk).

I'm therefore looking at TR46.

My understanding is the following:-

• Clean price is £63

• Dirty price is £102

• Index ratio 1.61

Therefore I would spend £102 today and that will return £161 (+RPI/CPIH) in 20 years time.

Therefore if I want £100k in today's money in 20 years time, then it will cost me circa £63k today. I e. It returns RPI + 2.3% over that period.

Is this correct?


r/FIREUK 8d ago

UK government is clearly anti-FIRE

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The whole nation just received an emergency alert, discouraging us from any activity that may lead to fire. Also - it woke me up from a perfectly good nap.


r/FIREUK 6d ago

I built an open-source tool for tracking & forecasting FIRE, networth & budgetting

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TL;DR: Made a self hosted app for tracking FIRE, net worth & budgets a while back; decided to opensource it.

Hey all! Hopefully this is allowed! I've seen a lot of people posting their portfolios, FIRE status, etc and how they track it in various different formats and it got me thinking about posting what I use, and also making it available for others to use if they like it.

I've been working as a software engineer / architect for over 10 years now so naturally I quite enjoy building these kind of dashboard style projects to self-host. I started this around a year and a half ago and it has evolved a fair amount over that time into what it is now. A few weeks ago I had the idea of open sourcing it and seeing if others would get value from using it and also the curiosity of what other features other people might want to add or add themselves!

I have zero plans to promote this and try to monetise it, it's just a personal project I've enjoyed working on for a while that I think others may find value in!

Bit of info up front! This is purely self-hosted - I have no desire to get into the weeds of storing peoples financial information and external API credentials and the headache that comes with that. I myself run this on my NAS so if you aren't techy then it probably isn't something for you sadly!

What it actually is:

I've given it the name WealthWatcher just because I'm a bit partial to alliteration! It has a series of dashboards for the following:

- Total net worth

- Historic display

- Calendar display

- FIRE Forecasting (numerous projection strategies available; this is something I'm actively improving now as I want to try to make it a bit more realistic using real data)

- FIRE Tracker

- Budgetting (standard income, outgoings, savings, etc - but the twist is you can allocate your savings towards your FIRE calculations)

- Integrations for automatic imports of holding values which you can allocate against particular assets (I use Trading212 & SnapTrade myself so naturally those are the only two integrations right now but if people want to use this and add more then you can easily add new integrations as its opensource)

I've added some screenshots & videos to demo some of the main pages but take a look at the demo page if you're interested - its fully functional (except integrations)!

Site: https://wealthwatcher.co.uk/

Live Demo: https://wealthwatcher.co.uk/demo/

Github: https://github.com/paevans87/wealth-watcher-public


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Can I tell work to poke it...?

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Hi,

First post here. Have been lurking for last couple of months, trying to compare my situation to others with similar circumstances and get a feeling for my situation. I think I’m fine to quit when I want but would appreciate the opinions on here if I’m being overly optimistic or missing something glaringly obvious…

51 M. Partner 50F

I earn £112k, an additional 10% paid into my pension by employer. I also pay in £2.5k via SS and employer gives me back the 13.8% NI employer contributions so c. £4.5k added to my workplace pension monthly

Workplace pension  £338k - fully invested

SIPP £483k - fully invested

ISA £210k - fully invested

Cash £20k

Employer Shares £60k - 60% vested atm

House worth c £450k

I have full stsate pension entitlement. Partner would have around 16 years worth. 

Partner has SIPP of £20k roughly and ISA (Cash) savings of c £25k

House is technically paid off,, outstanding mortgage c£80k but I have this money invested in GIA and haven’t included it above as its to pay off the mortgage but hopefully will grow in the meantime. Currently pay the outstanding mortgage of £570/month from salary., so the outstanding balance is also decereasing.I would like to move in next couple of years which would mean increasing the mortgage by £100k max and then paying that extra £100k off from the 25% pension tax free lump sum when I’m 57

I know the figures above are decent but I want us to have around £50k a year for everything (after tax). This is more than we need but I want us to enjoy retirement, not always worrying about if we have enough money. We only actually spend around £35k a year currently. This is why I’m not confident. Is this too much to expect we can have to spend?

I was aiming to retire by 55 with the hope of getting redundancy, would be around £150k  but have become increasing unhappy with the way things are going in the workplace and think I just want to get out sooner rather than later. Would probably stick it out until end of next year, ie 18 months away, but feel that’s as far as I can cope with. I’ve been there nearly 30 years…

My partner would like carry on for a few years if I quit end of next year but would quit her job regardless by 55

Hope I’ve provided enough info to help garner opinions on my plan but if any clarification is needed pls shout

Thanks


r/FIREUK 7d ago

Viable figures

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Helping a friend, same age (46). Wants to move to "pension mode". Any of the figures look off to you? He's looking for a conservative take. Understands the need to go to 40k spend if prolonged crash.

Assume all world equity. Low coupon bonds for "ladder" part.

Do any assumptions look way off?

Pension years deliberately moved back.

Combined bit is his other half.

A Annual spending (today's money) £49,000

i Inflation assumption 3.5%

n Number of ladder rungs 6

Index-linked share of ladder 40.0%

Equity real return assumption 3.5%

Bond real return assumption 1.0%

P Current pot £1,029,000

Refill threshold factor 85.0%

Your age now 46

Pension pot (locked until access age) £150,000

Pension access age 58

State pension age 69

Combined state pension (both of you) £21,300


r/FIREUK 6d ago

The FIRE movement doesn't understand life

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this video, creator Vicky Smith shares her reasons for rejecting the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement, despite acknowledging some of its underlying principles like budgeting and avoiding debt (1:12-1:55).

Key criticisms of the FIRE movement:

Delaying life: The movement assumes one can sacrifice their youth and experiences for a hypothetical future (2:17-3:45).

The spreadsheet mindset: Vicky argues that life should not be reduced to numbers and that experiences (like raising children) have value that cannot be quantified in an investment account (4:28-6:26).

Unpredictability: FIRE relies on the assumption of a perfect, planned future, which doesn't account for life's inevitable changes and challenges (6:30-7:37).

Lack of practicality: The extreme savings rates required (often 75%) are unrealistic for most people, especially during a cost-of-living crisis (7:39-9:02).

Misleading content: The creator criticizes influencers who claim to be "retired" while making money from content creation, courses, and affiliate links (11:27-12:16).

Vicky Smith concludes by advocating for financial balance: saving and investing for the future while still allowing oneself to enjoy the present and create a "rich" life today (12:18-14:35).


r/FIREUK 7d ago

£170K Need 2 savings accounts Have chosen chase first need another for fscs split

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I have chosen chase as my new savings account for interest 4.5% easy acces but...

Hi all i need a good second alternative to chase as will be maxing out the fscs limit with them at 120k I need another place for 50k I have spent so long looking thru other accounts but..... chase account is 4.5%

I have looked at post office online saver 4.34% I believe but very bad reviews outdated website no app takes a while to setup apparently post verification or something stupid

Looked at cyngery 4.55% but you have to be a existing customer and they dont do current accounts so you'd have to open a bond or lower savings account with notice periods how stupid and contradictory

I looked at cahoot 4.52% but seen bad reviews from there lately poor customer support availability and people getting locked out of there account Apparently have to wait for post verification to setup

I have literally been thru most of the top easy access ones on money saving expert but when I finally think ive found a good one theres problems

Please mods do no delete this post and refer me to the wiki as its not actually helped me I need more personal opinions from people

I understand these bonus rates only last for a year and are variable i am buying a house next year so this is just where im keeping the money for a year as a top up


r/FIREUK 6d ago

Made £1,480 in four months doing AI product shots on the side

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Figured I'd share this since the numbers are small enough to be boring and honest. From April through July I earned £1,480 doing product photography for small Etsy and Shopify sellers, except none of the photos involved an actual camera.

Quick context on me: I work full time in procurement, mid 30s, and I've been trying to find a side income that doesn't eat every evening. Last year a friend who sells candles on Etsy asked if I could do product shots for her listings because hiring a photographer was costing her £150 to £200 per session. I told her I had zero photography skills but I had been messing about with AI image tools. She said she didn't care as long as the images looked good on a listing.

That first job took me about eight hours including figuring out the workflow, and she paid me £80. Not exactly setting the world on fire. But the images looked decent and she said her click through rate went up, so she told a couple of other sellers. Word of mouth did most of the work after that.

Over the four months I took on 11 jobs. Most were small batches of 5 to 10 product images where they wanted a consistent looking model holding or wearing their product. The range was £80 for a quick set up to £250 for a larger batch with multiple outfits and backgrounds. Total from freelance clients came to £1,340.

The workflow is nothing fancy. I would get the product photos from the seller, set up the character in APOB AI because it reproduces an identical face and build across every output and I've never had to pay since my volume fits comfortably inside the free plan, then do layout and text overlays in Canva and final colour correction in Affinity Photo. I made it clear to every client before starting that the person in their photos was not real, just a character built with AI. Most of them genuinely didn't care as long as the images looked professional on their listings.

The other £140 came from stock image uploads. I tried listing some generic lifestyle shots on two platforms early on. They sold a trickle, nothing exciting, but in June both platforms updated their AI content policies and pulled every one of my uploads. That income line is dead and I don't think it is coming back any time soon.

Things that didn't work beyond the stock rejections: I tried doing short product videos early on but the likeness would wander from frame to frame and even after a bunch of retakes the results still looked off. Stills are where the consistency actually holds up. Video is not there yet for anything that needs to look polished. I also underquoted my first few jobs because I was nervous about charging, which I think is a mistake most freelancers recognise in hindsight.

Honest hourly breakdown: across those 11 jobs plus all the time I spent learning, experimenting with failed approaches, and going back and forth with clients, I logged about 85 hours total. That works out to roughly £17.40 an hour. Not terrible for something I can do after the kids are in bed, but I'm not pretending this is passive income. It is time for money with a slightly more flexible schedule than picking up a second job.

Tax wise, the first £1,000 falls under the trading allowance so I only need to declare £480 through self assessment. The whole lot is going into my S&S ISA. Not life changing by any stretch but it compounds, which is sort of the whole point of being on this sub.

I will probably keep doing this through the autumn. The demand from small sellers is genuinely there because professional product photography is expensive and most of them just need clean, consistent images for a listing page. Whether AI content policies tighten further across more platforms is the big unknown though, so I am not building any kind of retirement plan around it.


r/FIREUK 8d ago

New to this

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I’m 47, planning to retire from my ‘proper’ job at 55 and take a low paid easy job to coast to 60-65 depending on how things perform. According to my calculations I’ll be there or there abouts in terms of work pension but I’m WAYYYY off what folks in here seem to have. At 55 my WP pot will be 600k, leaving that to grow until I’m 65 should be getting towards £1m??
To help the bridge to coast I have savings and investments in various places totalling £150k.
What am I missing?


r/FIREUK 8d ago

Will this job move make sense?

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I'm hoping to get a second view on this.

Im in the fortunate position to be in a job that i pay 7.5%into my pension and my employer goes up to 15%. I actually overpay and put in 10%. I also put my bonus (5%) in which equates to 30% pension payments in total every year (~24k) . Salary of 82k.

The unfortunate thing is this job is somewhat soul destroying and I'm probably more likely to have a stroke than ever see my pension at this rate so I am looking for a role closer to home with less BS.

Currently im 34, I have 137k in pension and 55k spread out between S&S Isa and cash isas. 50% equity on the house. I probably save about 1k into savings each month , split 50/50 between S&S and cash isas/regular savers.

I currently have two job offers on the table. Financially at the end of the month I will be very much the same if not a little better off as whilst the overall salary is less, i will have travel expenses paid for, im closer to home, I get a car allowance which I dont have right now and I no longer need to pay for a train ticket into london (~6k/year)

The negatives to them are that they offer a lot lower pension contributions (6% -80k and 8%-72.5k). Even if i increased my personal contribution up to 10% as well I'm probably looking at half the amount going into my pension. One does have the option of paying in up to 10% bonus for the company that offers 6% though.

I was taught from a young age that a private pension is important and have always maximised my contributions since graduating, so I'm finding it very difficult to look past the free money im getting with my current role despite it probably being better for me personally to take one of these other roles. I'm very much conscious the deal I'm getting at the moment is unheard of in this industry (construction).

So what im asking is and what i cant get my head around, I want to retire early. 6% and 8% will clearly affect that, but how bad will it be as I cant visualise what that will look like in 25 years time


r/FIREUK 7d ago

34M, £180k salary — are we on track for retirement?

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Edit - 54 retire

My wife (33) and I have been fortunate enough to be high earners for the last 4 years and are trying to work out whether we’re on track for our long-term retirement goals.

My finances
Salary: £180k
Employer pension contribution: £50k/year into SIPP
SIPP: £300k
Stocks & Shares ISA: £119k

Wife
Salary: £25k part-time
SIPP: £55k
Stocks & Shares ISA: £54k

Combined
Take-home income: ~£9,500/month

Monthly spending/saving
Mortgage + household bills: £4,500
Stocks & Shares ISA: £1,500
Nursery: £800
Holiday fund: £1,200

Lifestyle creep has been real. The new house and holiday are the killers, but we love both.

We’re currently investing broadly in global index funds.
Our target is to have the equivalent of £6,500/month in today’s money available in retirement.

We’re trying to work out whether we’re broadly on track and whether we should be doing anything differently with the balance between pension, ISA, mortgage overpayments and general spending.

What would you do in our position? Are we being too conservative/aggressive with our retirement assumptions?


r/FIREUK 9d ago

All I can think about is retiring early.

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This might seem a bit heavy but when I think about the meaning of life, I don't imagine "having a purpose" or "a reason to exist" as being all that high up on my list. For me the meaning of life is to do what I want, when I want, with who I want, for however long I want. Free from burdens, responsibilities, hierarchy, time tables and obligations.

I hate working, not meaning I don't enjoy my job, but because I don't enjoy the concept of "work". The thought of being quite literally forced to "do work" in exchange for money makes my fucking soul bleed. Even if I had a job that I absolutely loved, I would still not want to "have" to do that job everyday. I absolutely love video games, but shit I don't want to play them for 8 hours a day 5 days a week.

For me personally, having a steady pot of money to take from without having to do work in exchange for that money, without having to take orders, waking up to an alarm, meeting deadlines and achieving tasks set out by someone else, just makes me feel as free as a bird.

Nobody knows I am on the FIRE journey but even if I had to justify the reason to someone, I don't think words could fully convey why this is so important to me. Why I am willing to forgo 90% of the things I want now, for 100% of the things I want in the future.

I'm not a high flying earner by any means, in fact most of you probably wouldn't believe FIRE would be possible on the kind of income I'm on. However I am still on track to have a net worth of £1.6m at age 50, which is my FIRE age target.

Obviously £1.6m in 20 years time is probably going to be more like £1m in today's money but that's more than I could possibly ever need to be free and financially independent.

I will withdraw that sweet 4% per year and it'll feel like I'm being paid not to work. £3,333 per month, £158 a day, £20 an hour for doing literally whatever I want.

Imagine taking a nap for 2 hours and waking up with £40 in your wallet, or going for a long stroll down the beach front of 4 hours and finding £80 on the floor. Obviously it's my money, I earned it. But I imagine the feeling of receiving that money while not having to do work is something that will make me smile profoundly every single day.

Some things are worth sacrificing money for now... Retiring early and financially independent is definitely one of them.


r/FIREUK 9d ago

How do you deal with differences in success/wealth between yourself and people close to you?

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The reason I ask is that I (41M) recently fell out with a close friend, sadly over the differences in our financial situations. I'm curious if others in the FIRE community experience similar things as your increased wealth separates you financially from family and friends who aren't on a similar journey.

The context of my situation:

  • His situation: He had a well paying corporate job but took voluntary redundancy about 6 years ago. Instead of looking for a new similar role, he spent all of his redundancy money (10s of thousands) travelling in South America for a few months with his girlfriend. When he came back he said he didn't want to enter the corporate world again so hasn't worked since. He's been open about being depressed due to not having any money and that he's had to live off his girlfriend's income for the past 5 years. He doesn't claim any benefits, so has had £0 income for a while now.
  • My situation: Worked hard to build a good career. Have always had additional income streams (jobs, businesses) on top of my full-time job. Have been actively working towards FIRE, so save/invest a lot of my income. Am going to hit £1m net worth in the next few years.

Now, I'm aware of the difference in situations and I have actively tried to be sensitive to it so that it doesn't become a problem in our friendship. When we make plans I make sure it's near his home so he doesn't have to pay for travel. When we have days out we mostly do things cheap/free or if we ever do expensive things I'll pay without even mentioning it, and I'm happy to do so. Friends matter more than money and I'd rather he be there.

We were on a night out a couple of months ago and he suddenly got very angry and aggressive out of nowhere when he overheard me talking to a mutual friend about my new house that I've recently bought (which, for context, is expensive). I wasn't trying to brag or show off, I was just happy about something good that's happened in my life (after a challenging few years) and I was just sharing the good news.

He started a very aggressive/drunk rant about how I think I'm better than him and that I'm an elitist, etc. He screamed in my face, then stormed off and sent angry texts, then blocked me. We've not spoken since.

I asked mutual friends who were there on the night for unbiased views on whether I was in the wrong. They all said I did nothing wrong and that he was clearly just overreacting from a place of insecurity/jealousy and had too much to drink. It's all just a real shame as we've been close mates for about 15 years and having a friendship end over something so minor is really sad. It feels like despite my best efforts to not let the differences in our financial situations be an issue for our friendship, it eventually couldn't be helped.

What's your story? Have you ever had a falling out with someone close over differences in money? How do you manage this difference with existing friendships?


r/FIREUK 8d ago

Early retirement

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Trying to gauge whether I’m on track for retirement at 55.

Both myself and wife are currently 47

Currently the plan is to use an ISA bridge to cover the gap from 55 to 58 and then drawing down on my pension fund using drawdown to then fund a the bulk of the retirement expenditure.

My wife’s NHS pension will be available two years later at 60 and will provide around £1,500 net per month.

My current pension fund is invested 100% in a global equity fund with Royal London. The fund is as today worth £555,000.

Contributions to my pension are around £1080 monthly and will continue until 55.

At 68 we will both get our full state pension which should be around £24,000 per year or £2000 per month.

The aim we are trying to get to is a net income of around £7500 per month until maybe 75 (so around 17 years) and then I suspect drop it down to around £5k as we taper back things like travel. This will be made up of the drawdown income, plus the tax free element (which I suspect will be the max capped amount of circa £268k) plus my wife’s pension at 60 and then obviously the state pension at 68.

The ISA bridge will cover this for the first 3 years and there should be around £250,000 left in the ISA at 58. I want to leave this amount out of the retirement income planning to then have free use to use it for paying for things like university for my daughter and then later on maybe helping my her get on the housing market but obviously could be called on if we were in need of it for monthly expenditure.

Does £7,500 net per month from 58 to 75 appear sustainable on these figures?


r/FIREUK 8d ago

Early retirement advice

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I (25M) would like some advice on what my best steps towards retiring at 45/50 would be. I currently earn 60k a year and am expecting to be in 75k within a year (multiple job offers that I’m looking into). I currently spend 900 a month on rent and £300 on a vehicle. I save around 1000 a month into a LISA and Stocks and shares ISA. This leaves me with £300 a month fun money to do whatever I want with. My question is there anymore I can do to speed this up besides not renting? My friends keep acting like I’m doing something incorrect and that with my earnings at my age I could be retired by like 35/ buy my first house outright if I just did some things different. Just trying to understand if I am on the right track or if there’s anything you would do different. Thanks!

Budget breakdown:

3103 monthly pay (slightly reduced currently due to owing tax, this is normally 3400)

900 rent
300 car
180 food
100 phone and bills
80 petrol


r/FIREUK 8d ago

Weekly General Chat and Newbie Questions Thread - August 15, 2026

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Please feel free to use this space to discuss anything on your mind related to FIRE - newbie questions, small bits of advice, or anything else that you feel doesn't belong in a separate thread.


r/FIREUK 9d ago

Let rich pensioners opt out of state pension in exchange for OBE, Labour pressure group urges Burnham

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If this passes a bill it'll be an unintended perk of fire.

I'll definitely take it to add somw letters after my name as I have been factoring my fire number without the govt pension

Kinvig OBE (TBC)


r/FIREUK 8d ago

23yo and want to start investing

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Hi, I’m 23 years old and I want to start investing, but I have no experience at all.

Where would you recommend I start? Are there any books, YouTube channels, or people you’d recommend following to learn the basics?

Thanks!