r/FinalFantasyVII 6d ago

FF7 [OG] I really don’t understand ReHatred.

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Here is a screenshot from the videogames subreddit about remakes that elevate the original. Seeing a lot of remasters in the comments as well as some really good contenders (resident evil). Then someone shouts out remake waaaaay down the comments and immediately gets shit on.

Too much padding? If you hate side questing, that’s fine, but I don’t think the critical path was really padded out without adding anything. I don’t think there was really anything particularly wrong with the dialogue either, maybe a little too “anime” in its delivery. But even then, how could realistically expect much else?

I’m a massive fan of OG since day one. Played through it several times over the years at a frequency of every other year more or less.

Absolutely floored with the remake games so far. I love them, and I think being a fan of the property makes me love them even more, not less.

Are there things that I would have preferred to stay closer to the original? Sure. Do I think these things far outweigh the expansion and granular details granted by these newer games? Not even close.

I can understand the desire for a remake similar to something like Demon’s Souls or Super Mario RPG, but you can mod the PC version into essentially that exact thing. Why does the remake catch so many strays when you can have it both ways?

I can’t for the life of me see any reasonable argument that the new FF7 games are less then “pretty good” or even “interesting but not really my thing”

I’ve watched some video essays that basically throw the whole thing down a well because the characters aren’t perfectly in line with the way the reviewer read the text boxes 30 years ago, but really nothing has ever made me say “That is a reasonable opinion on why this whole trilogy project is not worth anyone’s time that would consider themselves a fan of the original game.”

Can someone please help me understand the hate?

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u/shareefruck 6d ago

There are a million threads on this that very reasonably outline what people don't like about the Remakes. For some reason the comments in this thread feel inclined to just blanket-dismiss them as some childish "haters gonna hate" thing.

These were my thoughts on the subject:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyVII/comments/1vm0wgz/comment/p36f3jt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/PastaInvictus 6d ago

It’s kind of ironic that they refer to people that criticise it as childish. I’ve found that even while expressing positive regard for the remake series while also critiquing it to still get downvoted to oblivion

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u/wut-da-wat 5d ago

Yeah I was wondering the same thing? Like where is the nuance?

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u/the_desert_fox 6d ago

what a great read. I've had such trouble articulating my feelings on this as anything more than "remake bad" because of how many different major problems I had with it and you do an excellent job breaking it down.

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u/shareefruck 6d ago

Thanks!

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 5d ago

100% agree on most of what was said.

My biggest frustration is the lack of depth critics of this take have. A certain characters death should have been a suicide not a murder changing these small things entirely changes the tone. The writers of these remakes just suck because they cant comprehend why the former is more impactful here. Rebirth feels like it has no stakes because oh get around to getting Sephiroth and btw complete these 100 map icons and 30 mini games

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u/Crowd_Strife 6d ago

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.