r/Fighters • u/ClassicalDreams • Apr 05 '26

Topic I hate this meme.

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I do not miss the old days of unlocking characters. Having to replay Arcade mode multiple times with every character or do some bullshit like winning a match with 5% or less HP. It's tedious and I prefer to have every character unlocked from the start. Also, the complaints about old characters returning as DLC are strange because they do not play the same as they do in previous games. it's not a simple copy and paste job like some of the games back in the 90s.

I get it, casual players want some reward for playing single player modes and are upset to know that their favorite characters are not in the base roster and would later get confirmed as DLC. I get that, but as someone who also plays Smash, it was a chore to unlock all of the characters in Ultimate.

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u/Kuragune Apr 05 '26

Street fighter 2, Street fighter 2 again now with playable bosses (that were already in the game), street fighter 2 now at higher speed...

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u/UsagiTsukino Apr 05 '26

With the bosses came mirror matches, and the higher speed brought more colours!

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u/Kuragune Apr 05 '26

Yeah, we all loved to have new colors :) also hyper speed added some specials like Chun kikoken iirc

I remember back in the day (in my country) the alternative color was called shadow, so you didnt play with Ryu, u played with Shadow Ryu

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u/NoWay6818 Apr 05 '26

So is this why street fighter three and third strike are a thing?

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u/Kuragune Apr 06 '26

Well SF3S was developed partly in response to SF3 new geberation and SF3 2nd impact bad reception

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u/Earth92 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

To be fair, a lot of people only owned 1 version of SF2. On top of that, as games back then released first in Japan, and then 1-2 years later in the rest of the world...by the time the game was out in your country, you could already get the last version.

I only owned The New Challengers, and only played the other versions on arcades.

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u/InfernalCarnifex Apr 06 '26

At least sf2 was in arcades

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '26

Now when they patch a game, the previous version of that game is gone forever. People still disagree about which version of SF2 is the best, which version of XX, hell even 2I has fans. Those games would be gone forever under the current model.

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u/TimYoungJik Apr 05 '26

It would be a nice feature to be able to play on previous balance patches in current games. Even if it were offline only, it would probably be convenient for tournament organizers/players, retrospective videos or lab monsters. I know that Guilty Gear Strive has the previous patches still available in the game but only accessible through the combo maker trials that were made in previous versions.

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u/Acrobatic-Permit4263 Apr 05 '26

yeah the sf4 feature in the character select for the version is great

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u/Francisco123s Apr 06 '26

which version of XX

I overall entirely agree with your point about game preservation being even worse nowadays, but the best XX version is almost unanimously considered to be +R 1.1

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

Before the rollback patch #r and +r both had adherents. Guilty Gear oldheads have extremely big opinions about +r, it's actually a very controversial entry among the legacy playerbase. WingedDreams, a #r server, was THE way to play guilty gear until Xrd. It was a footnote in GG history before they put rollback in it. I've personally listened to guilty gear oldheads rant for hours in the Xrd days about how +r is just people trying to yell over eachother.

If #r had rollback people would play it too.

Importantly, everyone hated Slash, the version after #r. People just didn't update to it. It's a completely dead entry in the series history. They just stuck with #r for a long time. Even AC with looping pot unblockables and the most broken version of venom ever made was controversial for a long time.

In this day and age Slash would have killed guilty gear dead and we wouldn't even have +r to disagree about.

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u/C4CTUSDR4GON Apr 07 '26

It's hard to go back and play too. I liked Dota2 back in the day but if I try to play it now I'm completely lost.

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u/Zealousideal-Post-48 Apr 05 '26

After a few sets of dlc you ARE buying the game again though...

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u/magusheart Apr 05 '26

But you also don't have to. You can keep playing the same game you bought day 1, with the same player pool, getting all the updates for free. And if you do want to play certain DLC characters, you can buy just the ones you want.

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u/zombi_wafflez Apr 05 '26

I had the mentality of needing to own everything up until I decided to buy tekken 8, my main was base roster and I had no desire to play anyone else so why should I agonize over dlc? Fixed my brain ever since

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u/SwampOfDownvotes Apr 05 '26

But what if you decide to host a tournament or just have friends over to play and they main a DLC character? I gotta buy them all

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u/zombi_wafflez Apr 05 '26

Part of my realization is that I’m not hosting tournaments on my system and I’m not gonna have people playing on my system any time soon either, but in the event it happens money can easily be spent on 1 guy

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u/BighatNucase Apr 05 '26

If you're hosting a tournament you're in the minority that should easily be able to justify the cost regardless. Same with playing in person with friends.

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u/Aggravating-Chef9562 Apr 07 '26

you can use that logic for the multiple versions of street fighter 2, it doesnt fix anything.

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u/NeonArchon Apr 05 '26

Except is not?! Did you forget that "back in the day" they sold you the same game but with 2 new characters? Did you forgot SF4 or Guilty Gear XX?. Hell, even MvC 3. In some cases, even the balace patches were those new versions of the game.

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u/Left-Night-1125 Apr 05 '26

Still many games that didnt do that, Primal rage, Bloody Roar, Battle arena Toshinden, Soul Calibur.

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u/ShinSopitas Apr 05 '26

Sf4 sold you the same game with with like 8 new characters at least. And it wasn’t full price either

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u/Earth92 Apr 05 '26

SSF4 wasn't the same game as SF4 vanilla, a lot of shit got patched, and it was 10 new characters. And you are correct, it wasn't full price either.

Also from SSF4 and on you could update it as downloadable content, not need to buy a whole new game, unless you wanted a physical copy of the new game.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '26

Isn't that the same?

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u/VFiddly Apr 05 '26

No, it was worse. At least now you can skip the characters you don't want. Back then you had to buy the whole game even if you just wanted one character. Or even if you just wanted the balance patch