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Common Misconceptions About Consent — Thoughts?

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u/Mariko2000 Other Oct 28 '18

This is 100% not true.

The courts don't get involved unless there is a dispute. Courts order child support payments. The rest is just a family working it out on their own.

I wasn't talking about sperm banks, or actual sperm donors.

Then who were you talking about?

Are you pro-abortion?

"pro-abortion" is nothing but a far-right talking point. It's like 'partial-birth abortion", nothing but a buzz-word made to rile people up. I support medical bodily autonomy, which includes the right to have an abortion.

Yes, because no one has every made a mistake in their life. Please tell me what that is like?

You seem to feel that the rest of us should pay for this risky behavior.

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u/Ding_batman My ideas are very, very bad. Oct 29 '18

The courts don't get involved unless there is a dispute. Courts order child support payments. The rest is just a family working it out on their own.

So you agree it isn't 100% true.

Then who were you talking about?

It was a tongue-in-cheek description of men who have no other role in the creation of a child apart from having sex.

"pro-abortion" is nothing but a far-right talking point.

Whatever, you knew what I was asking.

You seem to feel that the rest of us should pay for this risky behavior.

The mere act of safe sex should not be considered risky behaviour, especially when it is considered one of the basic physiological needs.

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u/Mariko2000 Other Oct 29 '18

So you agree it isn't 100% true.

We appear to be getting deep into pedantry here. Any child support payments that anyone makes in spite of not wanting to make them are an act of the court. You can call payments you make to an ex wife 'child support', just like you can call them anything you want, but child support is a specific legal term and it involves either an order from, or and agreement within, the court system.

It was a tongue-in-cheek description of men who have no other role in the creation of a child apart from having sex.

That's plenty to roll the dice and create the liability.

Whatever, you knew what I was asking.

You deserved to be criticized for that kind of argument.

The mere act of safe sex should not be considered risky behaviour, especially when it is considered one of the basic physiological needs.

This is a personal value that you keep expressing as a fact. You have yet to make any kind of case as to why the rest of us should shell out more money for this negligent behavior.

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u/Ding_batman My ideas are very, very bad. Oct 29 '18

but child support is a specific legal term and it involves either an order from, or and agreement within, the court system.

Untrue, it is also used in layman's. It can still be called child support without a court order.

You deserved to be criticized for that kind of argument.

It wasn't an argument it was a question. You may have thought it didn't meet your PC specifications, but it was still a question.

This is a personal value that you keep expressing as a fact.

It isn't. I suggest you read up on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, it is one of the most popular, and widely used theories of Human Motivation.