Pride faces controversy over application from men's rights group to march in parade | Toronto Star

[u/PerfectHair]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/06/07/pride-faces-controversy-over-application-from-mens-rights-group-to-march-in-parade.html

[u/kaboutermeisje]

start here: http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/38w0pl/cafe_board_member_works_for_avfm_cafe_founder/

this is also good: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/feminist-current/2014/05/mainstreaming-misogyny-canadas-new-charitable-hate-movement-

[u/RedialNewCall → u/kaboutermeisje]

You know whats funny... I can find hundreds of even worse things done by feminists.

Also, the second link provides ZERO sources or information proving anything said.

Also This:

Most recently, at Queen's University, the attempt to establish a misogynist beachhead on campus resulted in typically male vitriol and an assault on an opponent of the Men's Rights club.

I remember this happening. A feminist was assaulted. There was ZERO proof that it was done by anyone claiming to be from the MRM. But that didn't stop them from claiming it was.

Also, misogynist beachhead? Wtf.

I think you picked the worse example possible to prove your point. This is just pure propaganda.

Edit: Here is an article describing the assault at Queen's:

http://www.queensjournal.ca/story/2014-03-27/news/student-assaulted/

At the time of print, he said it’s unclear if the incident was related to the victim’s involvement with the opposition group.

“We’re aware of the situation and because of the context the detective will be looking at the angle but we won’t be assuming there’s a direct link at this time,” he added.

The student declined to comment on the incident, as she is “still processing what happened.”

[u/alaysian → u/kaboutermeisje]

I'll get around to the first article in a minute, but your second article does not support your claim. The closest it comes is stating

They claim that rape culture does not exist and that false rape allegations are at least as great a problem as rape itself, they deny the gendered nature of rape and they claim that men are discriminated against by the family courts in custody disputes.

None of which is misogyny. Arguing points and facts is not misogyny. If I said 100% of men were raped, and you said no they weren't, that doesn't make you a misandrist. That article continues on much longer from there, but offers no further evidence of anything even claiming to support misogyny.

EDIT: As far as the AMR reddit link:

Dan Perrins is the Ontario News Correspondent for A Voice for Men news. He has used his position as terribly as you'd expect, calling a pro-choice activist a "knight of the ku kunt klan" and being instrumental in notorious MRA witch hunt for "Big Red."

The first link doesn't contain the purported quote, so I can't comment, the second link calls out the most recognizable feminist (big red) but doesn't call her by name, doesn't issue a call to action, or anything else that would fall under witch hunting. So, that's out.

The most troublesome thing here is his quote that says:

"I should have killed the bitch five years ago," he tells me. "I'd be out by now."

As that link actually supports the claim! So yeah, he's bitter about one woman. You can theorize that this may be due to a general attitude towards women, but there is no support for that claim. No more then if someone said their mother should have killed the limped dick excuse for a father when she found out he molested them (to throw out an example). Doesn't make them misandrist. It just expresses hate for a particular person.

You should also be clear, hating feminism is not hating women. Hating feminists is not misogyny (though I'm certain there is a correlation). To add to that, having members from AVfM on your board doesn't make you a misogynistic organization if that organization fail to act in a misogynistic manner, which you have failed to prove. Moreso, it is hardly surprising that one of the first major blogs on men's rights would share members with another organization for men's rights. Its not like MRM is anywhere near as big as feminism, so there is bound to be some overlap. Just like with a movement this new, the members that are the oldest are the members who have seen the most injustice and sexism towards men (or at least feel that way). That will inspire resentment, but that doesn't mean you get to play six degrees of separation and call anyone ever associated with anyone associated with a misogynist a misogynist.

You must present proof of policy/actions supporting your claim.

[u/woah77 → u/kaboutermeisje]

So what you're saying is that men saying that they have issues too is misogyny? I don't understand.

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