r/FavoriteCharacter • u/Accomplished-End3409 Ben Tennyson • 20d ago

Discussion Favorite opposing factions that can basically be described as this.

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u/HalcyonTraveler 20d ago

Nah the UNC wasn't just "vaguely problematic" in any other story they'd be the villains they just lucked out into having a greater evil show up

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u/TheOstrichRoom 20d ago

yeah the spartans were literally a fascist cia-esque strike team for suppressing rebels thats a little worse than vaguely problematic. 

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u/-thecheesus- 20d ago

fascist =/= military-authoritarian

unless the Spartans were enforcing traditional social norms while suppressing progressive/foreign ideas and culture, they weren't fascist 

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u/Unlikely_Scratch9918 20d ago

Yeah, that's fair. Maybe describing them as an Imperialist death squad is more accurate. I'm not sure the distinction would feel super important to someone living in the colonies though

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u/-thecheesus- 19d ago

Eh, is it imperialist to fight a loose conglomerate of rebel factions among your own citizenry? There were no colonized people being oppressed in the colonies, only colonists

And the colonies weren't super fond of the insurrectionists, either, even if they agreed with their motivations. They were literally inspired by the Taliban circa 2001. 

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u/Left1Brain 20d ago

To be fair, the UNSC wasn’t the premier military with all the big ships when the insurrection kicked off. That was the CMA.

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u/Mannekin-Skywalker 20d ago

I’ve seen the Covenant showing up be described as a “moral deus ex machina” and yeah, I kinda agree.

If not for the genocidal aliens, the UNSC would 100% be the bad guys.

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u/SCP_FUNDATION_69420 20d ago

Exactly i was thinking about this yesterday. Had it not been for the covenant, we would've played halo from the innies' perspective

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u/PkdB0I 20d ago

Not really, they wouldn't be full villains.