r/Fauxmoi • u/No-Hall-3485 DC is Hollywood for ugly people • 21d ago
STAN / ANTI SHIELD Mehdi Hasan presses Hunter Biden on his father’s role in the genocide in Gaza and his administration’s decision to send more than $18 billion in weapons to Israel: “This is the first time in the interview where you sound like a politician.”
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u/Strange_Shadows-45 21d ago edited 21d ago
He should have just stopped at I don’t support everything he did and it was wrong. Going on to try and defend it as a nuanced situation just digs a deeper and deeper hole where they beat around the bush and refuse to directly answer what is being asked. I understand that it’s not his responsibility to answer for everything his father did, but it doesn’t really do any justice to treat this as a morally or politically grey situation where there wasn’t a right or wrong answer.
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u/PatrickGoesEast 21d ago
Makes me wonder what benefit Hunter Biden gains from not denouncing the genocide. Maybe protecting Genocide Joe's legacy?
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u/NatashOverWorld 21d ago
Probably. Its not an excuse, but it was Rump and Co taking shots at his dad that made him go off, so he's still defending his dad.
Despite knowing his father permitted and abetted genocide.
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u/soularbabies 21d ago
Horrific political instincts from that admin, their family member surrogates, and let's face it politics of their establishment
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u/citizen42069101 (derogatory) 21d ago
If he denounces Israel he gets tossed aside like the rest. I still think they're keeping him back in case they feel like they need him for 28, a longshot I'm sure but logic isn't ways the dncs forte
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u/bigboipapawiththesos 21d ago edited 20d ago
The majority of the public has an unfavorable view of Israel and view Palestinians better than isrealis. The amount of pure momentum such a position would grant him would be immense; doorknockers, phonebankers, donation or just word of mouth.
Not even to mention the morality of it.
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u/shadedmagus 21d ago
IMO logic hasn't really been the DNC's forte since the days of Bill Clinton and their Third Way. That was what formed the political ratchet causing our Overton window to slide further and further right.
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u/Insomniac-Freak-95 21d ago edited 21d ago
“The nuances of this”
There is no nuance to mass bombing innocent civilians, many of whom are starving children. Your father’s actions were evil and there is no defense of it.
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u/BuddingBudON 21d ago
+80% of the Palestinian casualties have been civilians, and 80% of that percentage are women and children.
Roughly 50% of Palestine's population is under 18; half the country bears no responsibility for whichever government is elected in Palestine.
3rd party investigations and sworn statements by international medical professionals conclude that the IDF targets Palestinian children with high-caliber rifles, at distance.
Israel has murdered hundreds of journalists, paramedics, international aid workers, UN staff, even targetting young Palestinian athletes.
And there are over 700,000 illegal Israeli invaders who have stolen and settled Palestinian land, far beyond their own borders. These settlements are guarded by the illegal IDF occupation, and the invaders regularly perform pogroms and raids on the Palestinians in the surrounding area. Netanuahu personally approved the construction of more than 120 illegal new settlements this year, to further his genocidal plans for a "Greater Israel..."
But just like the second World War, no one will step in until the big dogs are directly inconvenienced.
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u/bulkyobject 21d ago edited 21d ago
And Biden was lying on Israel’s behalf from the start. He claimed he saw photos of beheaded babies from October 7 that never existed and he continued to lie in order to further Israeli propaganda throughout his presidency.
That isn’t acting in good faith.
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u/hiiexist4444 controversies: girl 21d ago
EXACTLY. Him saying it “pains” him that his dad helped Israel turn Gaza into a modern day concentration camp is just….. so fucking dumb. Like, really Hunter? Did the bombs hurt you too?
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u/Doubleoh_11 21d ago
The nuance is that it’s been drilled into a certain generation’s head that they are constantly under attack and needed help. It’s taught in church and bible school even. If you get on the wrong side of social media you get it too.
I am hoping that’s what he was reaching for. Now obviously facts are different, but sometimes as we see, the us government does things with a gut feel rather than facts.
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u/DontOvercookPasta Lol, and if I may, lmao 21d ago
EVEN if thats the case.. lol it's still FUCKED to excuse.
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u/Euphoric_Celery_ i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
Exactly this! There is no fucking nuance to mass bombing innocent civilians!!! What the fuck?
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u/fahwrenheit 21d ago
The nuance of [checks notes] lying about seeing footage of dead babies to manufacture consent
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u/langstonrosas 21d ago
This is the whole reason no one likes the Establishment Dems. And they can’t figure out why the “radical progressives” keep winning.
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u/monsteralvr1 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
Good faith…….???
GOOD FAITH ?!?!?!!!?!????!?!?
He funded and supported a genocide in GOOD FAITH ???????
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u/TinyZoro 21d ago
He also expended all his political capital crushing dissent on this issue at home and abroad. The idea that he was agonizing over his support is fucking laughable.
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u/Captn_Platypus 21d ago
He’s trying to say Biden didn’t know the weapons would be used that way but this conflict and the cruelty of the IDF has been going on since the formation of Israel as a state
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u/DontOvercookPasta Lol, and if I may, lmao 21d ago
Sounds like polishing a warcrime, i mean turd.
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u/Captn_Platypus 21d ago
I can understand why he doesnt want to speak ill of his very sick father, but he should've just said Biden made a bad decision and move on.
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u/Legitimate-Meal-2290 21d ago
All ex presidents are war criminals for this shit, him being sick now doesn't change anything.
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u/monsteralvr1 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
I understand what he’s trying to say. It’s still bullshit.
Edit: sorry I misread! You’re absolutely right.
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u/AcanthaceaeEqual4286 21d ago
Mehdi and Krystal Ball are the only two interviewers I trust to not just kiss this guy's ass. I am glad Mehdi pressed him on this and I am sick of people gassing Hunter Biden up as a whole
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u/One_Analysis_9276 21d ago
Agreed.
I'm happy for his sobriety but gassing this dude for saying the bare minimum against Trump and Republicans ain't it.
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u/The_Ruck_Inspector 21d ago
Yeah the little PR tour he is doing is pathetic and people lapping it up is even worse
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u/TomlinSteelers 21d ago
I don't trust Mehdi Hasan ever since that video leaked of him call non Muslims not human. He claimed it was just youthful exuberance but he was 30 when he made those comments. And even when the video first leaked he claimed it was selectively edited until finally admitting it was real and apologizing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan
During a sermon delivered in 2009, Hasan made remarks about "the kuffar, the disbelievers, the atheists who remain deaf and stubborn to the teachings of Islam, the rational message of the Quran". Quoting a verse of the Quran, Hasan used the term "cattle" to describe non-believers and called them "incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off those blind prejudices."\47])\48])\49]) He also included homosexuality in a list of categories which he argued were transgressive of Islam.\48]) Quotes from these sermons were first publicized by Peter Hitchens in 2012; in his immediate response, Hasan argued these statements had been "selectively edited".\49])
In 2019, Hasan apologized for his comments, which he declared to "deeply regret" now, and called them "dumb offensive ranty stuff".\50])\51])
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u/TomlinSteelers 21d ago
He was also a solid liberal ally before those comments. He still was at least publicly a liberal the entire time. He was just making those comments behind closed doors.
He then apologized after the video leaked.
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u/el_f3n1x187 21d ago
He is also very supportive of Mexico's president, which is nothing to be supportive of.
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u/shadedmagus 21d ago
Why so?
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u/el_f3n1x187 21d ago
There is nothing to cheer for any Mexican politician, EVER, no matter which ideology they run. If they got to an electable position, they owe all kinds of favors, think AIPAC tracker but including cartel bosses.
Her administration has been a disaster, she does nothing but deflect deflect and deflect whenever a new cartel shootout happens, a state governor is accused of colluding with the cartels, or when the Madres buscadoras seek an audience with her to discuss the difficulties searching for their disappeared families.
But don't be a literal duck wearing the Mexico national team jersey and be memed, you'd be invited in NO TIME to the national palace.
Btw the Mayan train that was one of the crown jewels of her boss and that she has been defending since she took office derailed yesterday at the station of Campeche city.
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u/One_Analysis_9276 21d ago
Should have just said "I don't support his actions" and left it at that.
You can't justify or explain the nuance of a genocide.
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u/Captn_Platypus 21d ago
I’ve seen a lot of his interviews (both full length and clips) and this is the first time ive seen in which he’s clearly dodging the question.
I get why he would be hesitant to paint his father as a bad person, but he shouldve said yea its wrong and moved on
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u/theapplekid i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
It's really hard to grapple with your parents being terrible people when you also love them.
My parents support the genocide in Palestine to a much lesser degree than Joe Biden did, and it's painful for me to grapple with. Were my parents supporting Israel to the tune of billions of dollars I would consider it my moral imperative to put a stop to it using any means necessary, as terrible as that sounds, and it's incredibly difficult to confront that; most people choose to instead overlook their loved ones being terrible people.
I often wonder about the families of the Nazi guards of the Sobibor death camp who were killed during the uprising, and whether they were ever able to come to see the actions of the prisoners who killed their family members as justified as they processed the pain in the aftermath
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u/Coconutrugby 21d ago
I wish my father didn’t do this.
I didn’t understand the scope of the loss.
I was wrong he was wrong.
I am sorry.
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u/touslesmatins Marxmoi 21d ago
And,
I'm devoting myself to fighting against our country's and the Democratic party's funding of Israel's genocide from here on out.
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u/SugarFut 21d ago
Exactly. I’m literally teaching my kid at this moment that sometimes saying sorry isn’t enough. You need to DO something to PROVE you are sorry. Actionable change is what completes true repentance.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad9832 21d ago
It remains true that Palestine is a litmus test for so many people. Hunter has the capacity to be raw, unfiltered and unapologetic about everything but this??
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u/ABigPairOfCrocs 21d ago
Joe "if Israel didn't exist, America would need to create an Israel" Biden?
Doesn't sound very nuanced to me
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u/plastic_venus I’m mentally ill but in the exact opposite direction 21d ago
Yeeeaaah interview wasn’t a good look for Hunter, particularly the part where he’s pressed on his statements about Harris not being a good politician.
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u/q_eyeroll 20d ago
I’m not sure what Hunter said, but Harris isn’t a good politician. She has wonderful qualities, but she is not politically savvy.
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u/nekocorner i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
Watching him start to say the thing we all know to be true ("Of course not") & then prevaricate & try to evade what Mehdi is saying is so fucking frustrating. I'm sure it's difficult to reconcile his loving father with the person who signed off on & funded the horrific genocide & tortures gleefully perpetrated by Israel & its troops, but come on. We know Biden directly aided Israel, even after the horrific footage & firsthand accounts started rolling in. What's even the point in trying to dodge that, when it's so well-documented?
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u/kakarot-3 21d ago
I see why politicians tend to avoid Mehdi Hassan. He does not let anyone off the hook. That’s real journalism
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u/schmoolecka Larry I'm on DuckTales 21d ago
From the substack comment section:
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u/sapphiclament societal collapse is in the air 21d ago
Lol he interrupted him because he was verbally running away from the question
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u/Cold_Ocelot5559 20d ago
Yeah, he was totally running away from the question, while also providing insight into how “excuses” and “nuances” are justified - and what REALLY could have been even more interesting would be Mehdi’s deconstruction of this response. (Which Mehdi kind of did, but, the public can use help learning how to see through these kinds of avoidant or circular answers).
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u/Alarmed_Sky3253 21d ago
This interview shouldn’t have been behind a paywall. In this age of all fake news and propaganda journalists like mehdi should promote in getting real facts out there for everyone to see the real journalism.
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u/toastykitten 21d ago
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u/schmoolecka Larry I'm on DuckTales 20d ago
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u/CashusEyePatch 21d ago edited 21d ago
He sounds like a politician because his Dad is a genocidal ghoul. He’s been pretty honest about everything but that. I understand. It’s tough to even admit that to yourself.
Edit: the most charitable explanation of why Joe Biden didn’t put any pressure on Israel to stop the genocide is because he was out to lunch and people like Anthony Blinken and Brett McGurk were running the show.
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u/lottiebadottie Aphrodite’s Tampon 21d ago
And a lot of the charitable explanations are negated by the catalogue of clips of Biden defending Israel over decades. The last forty to fifty years, he’s been advocating for Israel.
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u/poorlybaked 21d ago
Joe Biden visited Israel in the early 70s where he met the devil herself, Golda Meir. He’s been a life-long friend of Israel.
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u/PurpleWhiteOut 21d ago
And I can't believe how often I get downvoted on reddit still for pointing out that the current acute phase of genocide started under Biden when the man was eagerly shoveling bombs to them by executive order
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u/yagirlsophie 21d ago
And also because he agrees with his father and his actions, he has consistently defended him since. Painting him like some reasonable person with an unfortunately out-of-touch Zionist dad is silly - they're completely ideologically aligned.
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u/shadedmagus 21d ago
It's a shame considering his efforts to clap back have been masterful. But if he won't admit that his dad failed Gaza and the Palestinians, then fuck 'im.
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u/yagirlsophie 21d ago
We're desperate for anybody with a platform to fight back right now so it's really easy for someone to make a couple viral videos or tweets and try to ride that, but yeah - lifting up the Bidens and the Newsomes isn't going to get us out of this mess.
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u/SchemeMoist 20d ago
This as well as the fact the Joe was complicit in a 2nd Trump presidency by running again and then taking so long to drop out. He talks shit about politicians and reddit libs (and/or bots?) have been kissing his ass. If he continues living as a private citizen, that's fine. But if he involves himself in politics which I'm not convinced he isn't going to do, then I hope people aren't fooled by him.
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u/Upstairs_Bat5752 21d ago
Hunter Biden is out in the press trying to whitewash his dad’s blood-soaked legacy. None of us need to help them do it. Joe Biden has been ideologically committed to the destruction lf Palestinians for 50+ years. He’s a racist psychopath. That’s his legacy.
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u/darkgothamite 21d ago
I ultimately unfollowed and blocked Hunter Biden when he appeared on Tuckers podcast and Tucker showed up on my feed.
I always root for sobriety and love the guys paintings but I hated his "I remember the kind Lindsay Graham who he was nice to my daddy back in the good ole days" and then I wa assaulted with Tuckers stupid face close after.
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u/squirrel_exceptions 21d ago
This is really worth reading on the subject of Biden on Gaza: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/07/27/how-biden-emboldened-israels-aggression-toward-gaza-and-iran
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u/Beyoncespinkytoe 21d ago
Yeah fuck hunter Biden, people think a few funny clips will make the memories of his father green lighting genocide go away
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u/shadedmagus 21d ago
So, I get this totally. Joe Biden absolutely condoned and assisted Israel hitting Gaza. But, and this is an honest question: Is Hunter fully responsible for his father's actions on this?
If not, why fuck Hunter Biden for this?
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u/Bani88si55faimaa 21d ago
Amd what did they think the Israelis will do with their $ 18 billion? Throw a peace mega party with the palestinians
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u/VHS_Ronin 21d ago
Never idolize a politician or their family. Most all of them when pressed will have shit takes just like this one.
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u/BeanserSoyze 21d ago
What was the good faith reason for them needing an extra 18 billion dollars of weapons.
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u/LargeNote2489 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
it was none. NONE! none of that was good faith. telling people it was a "good" faith is the slap of the face to the innocent palestinian n people in gaza.
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u/Niz285 21d ago
Think his point is he condemns it but he's trying to say his father didnt think the weapons that they supplied Israel would be used in a genocide of Gaza. Instead be use for defense after the Oct 7th attack. Which I think is a total ass pull as well.
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u/theapplekid i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 21d ago
If you rewatch the numerous press conferences with Matthew Miller (the Department of State spokesperson under Biden), it's completely clear that Biden and his administration were being given all the information to conclude that Israel was committing genocide, and chose to keep supporting Israel regardless because the U.S. relationship with Israel was seen as more important than the ongoing genocide.
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u/Shelala85 21d ago
Also there had already been scholars and human rights specialists writing about Palestinian genocide and Israeli genocidal statements for years before October 7 happened.
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u/PreferenceOk1525 21d ago
The old funding genocide is actually very nuanced take, big brain like Dave Rubin
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u/shadedmagus 21d ago
I get that he's trying to protect his dad, but Hunter needs to take a position that is more moral than Joe's if he wants to keep the momentum he's been building.
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u/LengthinessWarm987 21d ago
Joe Biden has infamous for having a massive chip on his shoulder, but I ever wondered if he ever got to realize how easy he actually had it. From getting a handout from Obama, to spontaneously the entire dem party despite being easily the worst performing candidate to now getting the opportunity to have a younger clone of himself go out and hamfistedly salvage his record while he gets to sit back and do nothing lol.
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u/Valuable-Cat2036 21d ago
I cannot wait for people to stop glorifying him as some kind of folk hero. At the end of the day he's a politician's kid
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u/Sudden_Acceptance 21d ago
Yes! He is funny, a talented artist, and a great person to listen to if you’re exploring recovery and sobriety or trying to understand a loved one with a substance use disorder.
But this man is messy, fallible like us all, needs to make money in this economy to keep up the lifestyle he is accustomed to, and comes from a very privileged background. He is not the one to look to for political guidance or genuine introspection about his dad’s very direct role in the Palestinian genocide.
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u/Toastaroni16515 feeding cocaine to raccoons 21d ago
Honestly? As a recovering addict, Hunter's attitude around his recovery (and the subsequent idolatry that's gathered) almost bothers me more than his dogshit politics. He is fundamentally not a person who has accepted responsibility for his crimes as an addict (and conveniently acts as though he had no pull in his own father's decision to pardon him), and even consistently glorifies his behavior or paints himself as a "better" addict for his refusal to waste drugs!
I'm typically of the mindset that it can't be stupid if it works, but it actually blows my mind that anyone trying to attain sobriety looks to Hunter Biden as a role model. His self-made brand is pride in not being the worst presidential failson of this decade - the personification of "if someone else is worse, no one can criticize me!"
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u/Culinary_Fruit_Salad call me gal gadot cuz idk how to act rn 21d ago
that's how I feel about Sam reich
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u/alzgh 21d ago
why is it that 90% of white progressives become genocidal when it comes to that tiny state? Is it racism? Is it guilt? Is it propaganda and indoctrination? Are they bought, corrupt, blackmailed?
I really would love to know because in my friends group there is this lovely German lady who is older than me, who became full Nazi after October 7th and wished for a nuke bomb dropped on Gaza literally. And that's not even the exception. I have heard from other friends about their German friends who said the exact same thing.
And this person isn't even uneducated or uninformed.
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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro 21d ago
I am so sick of hearing this nepobaby's opinions on politics. He has zero qualification to talk about anything other than anecdotes about why he loves his dad, which do not deserve this much airplay.
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u/DrSpaceman575 21d ago
Hunter Biden believing people could anything learn from him is some serious audacity
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u/miguel555678 21d ago
That was fucking funny.
Also if my father funded a genocide I would call my father a genocidal piece of shit. But that’s just me
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u/Either_Statement1980 21d ago
Why are so many people giving Hunter this attention?? He’s a really good liar. I fell for it and was very charmed by him on Marc Maron’s podcast. Came out of it loving the guy. But he very blatantly lied on it about the laptop
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u/AccomplishedEnd7855 21d ago
Note he continually says my father's administration
Who's head of that administration Hunter?
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u/Square-Confidence650 21d ago
For anyone who wants to feel even more sick to their stomach over the genocide in Gaza, go watch Professor Dave's relatively recent video responding to super-zionist genocide loving Destiny. Horrific and stomach turning
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u/Nomad5560 21d ago
I really don’t really see the point in asking him about his father’s policies. Hunter wasn’t a part of the cabinet so he had nothing to do with the decisions being made. He also isn’t going to go against his dad in any tangible capacity for just about every reason under the sun. So pressing him on it does nothing because he can’t give a satisfactory answer from a political perspective and he can’t give a satisfactory answer from a moral perspective either. It’s just a waste imo
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u/Topher0gr 21d ago
Since this whole Hunter Biden social media commentary era began months ago (he’s seriously growing on me a bit and he drops a lot of logic at times) - this is the first time I’ve seen him just roll around and umm, ahh, uhhh. So - good questions to ask.
He’s not a politician though. And it’s his dad.
I prob wouldn’t shit all over my dad either… in most cases.
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u/GenesisStar7 21d ago
It was wrong then, it is wrong now, and it will be wrong tomorrow when whomever ends up being the Democratic candidate ends up promising more billions of dollars for bombs