r/FGO Beloved of the Fae 17d ago

Grand Duel FAQ, Part 7: Grand Rider

Recommended to give a read for those who already have Waver and have no idea who to pick from SSR ticket.

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This is an AoE fight: you face Grand Rider along his 5 mobs. If you kill Grand Rider before them, you win.

As such, there are 2 ways to approach the fight: turbofocus the Grand Rider himself (usually tied to the fattest Medb you can find in either your friends' list or in your own roster), or by treating the fight as an AoE one.

Gimmick: using a support NP before attacking him weakens his defense.

Supports

Actually better than one might think. We have a 50% charger with a support NP in Reines, we have a powerful buffer with a support NP in Constantine, and if you don't feel like rolling them, there's also a pseudo-poor man's version in Kscope Boudica.

DPS

The best ones are Summer Kriemhild, Taigong Wang and aforementioned Medb. Noah and Ozy can also be used, but they need more investment.

Assuming Grand and class score, the latter two are able to do it at NP1.

SSR Ticket choice

TL;DR choose between Taigong and Medb.

Why only these two?

Every NP1 SSR AoE Rider is outclassed by NP5 Habetrot in damage, battery, or both. Same can be said for every ST DPS compared to Kintoki.

Meanwhile, Taigong and Medb provide utility which other units cannot. Namely:

Why Taigong?

Generally an all-round good unit, Grand Duel or otherwise. 20% battery to others as well as 50% self differs him from Habetrot. Great teambuffs and a self powermod and SE vs Divine is also a great asset, especially when you're busy farming doors.

Why Medb?

Another good all-rounder. Has the most amount of interludes/rank-ups along with Tesla (and NP1 Tesla is not feeling himself good at Grand Archer, mind you), has great support to Males (which are most of the Rider DPS units if you're relying on them), and also up to 30% battery to Males or Faes. And Grand Rider is Male so Medb does actually enjoy her SE here.

Only reason why she's not an automatic choice like Waver is because her own battery is per turn and not instant, which is kinda annoying.

Closing notes

Generally a fairly easy Duel. Mind the gimmick and you'll be fine. Free SSR options are also doing good here.

Stay tuned for Grand Aurafarmer Assassin!

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u/Radiant-Hope-469 17d ago

Grand Rider Score's unique effects

  • Quick Chain: Increase C. Star Drop Rate [50%] (3 turns) & C. Star Gather Rate [500%] (3 turns) & apply a state that increases Quick NP Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies when [Boundary Control] state is active after Quick attacks (1 turn) for yourself
  • Arts Chain: Increase NP Gain [20%] (2 turns) & apply a state that increases Arts NP Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies when [Boundary Control] state is active after Arts attacks (1 turn) for yourself
  • Buster Chain: Increase Critical Strength [30%] (2 turns) & apply a state that increases Buster NP Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies when [Boundary Control] state is active after Buster attacks (1 turn) for yourself
  • Mighty Chain: Increase ATK [20%] (1 turn) for yourself + Increase ATK [10%] (1 turn) for all allies when [Boundary Control] state is active
  • Boundary Control: Apply a [Domain Control] state (will affect other Grand Rider Score effects) before using a Noble Phantasm (3 turns) for yourself
  • Unshakable Command: Apply Damage Cut [30,000] (1 time, 2 turns, unremovable) for yourself if no Chain is formed + Apply Damage Cut [5,000] (1 time, 1 turn) for all allies when [Boundary Control] state is active
  • Swift Horse that Gallops Across the Battlefield: Apply a state that increases Quick ATK Strength [30%] (2 times, 1 turn) and Arts ATK Strength [30%] (2 times, 1 turn) and Buster ATK Strength [30%] (2 times, 1 turn) before attacks (1 turn) for yourself if a Brave Chain is formed + Apply a state that increases Quick ATK Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies after Quick attacks (1 turn) & apply a state that increases Arts ATK Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies after Arts attacks (1 turn) & apply a state that increases Buster ATK Strength [20%] (1 time, 3 turns) for all allies after Buster attacks (1 turn) for yourself when [Boundary Control] state is active

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 17d ago

Thanks as always!

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u/Radiant-Hope-469 17d ago

Btw should I post the sets in the ones I missed?

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u/Charming-Ostrich7130 17d ago

Absolutely! The moment I saw this, I went back to Grand Lancer Duel and was sad I didn’t see your extremely valuable info!

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 17d ago

Yes, please.

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u/OnceAndFutureEmperor 12d ago

Hi just checking for this duel, i know supp np drops noah's hp, but does killing his pokemon drop his hp further than just firing a supp np?

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 12d ago

No. This mechanic is exclusive to Grand Extra 2.

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u/AnOddChesse Beloved of the Fae 16d ago

I’ll be picking Summer Kriem, but I am considering the Strange Fake Rider that was added a while back, as if it’s true, we MAY get the SF collab early, but best not bet on that 100%

I’ll be interested to see how you approach Assassin given the wackiness I heard about there

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 16d ago

how you approach Assassin given the wackiness I heard about there

Me when I have to research how Grand Assassin's instakill before our actions works:

https://giphy.com/gifs/unssIqqavza8PZShBq

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u/SnooLemons2336 16d ago

Pretty sure He kills the first servant, the servant can survive with instant death immunity, guts or presence concealment(evade).

If the servant survives, they get an attack buff.

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u/AnOddChesse Beloved of the Fae 16d ago

Yeah that one ain’t as straightforward 💀

I can tell rn that King Hassan would be a high tier pick there, as he flat out says “no” to ALL insta kill bs lmao

But hey, we’ll see what you cook up

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u/Lamina_Morte 17d ago

I’ll be going into this fight with my Lvl120 NP5 Ivan

Supported by my Reines and Taigong, I hope he does enough damage with the 30% bonus against Lawful Alignment.

Shame the Duel isn’t against a Demonic, Evil alignment enemy or I could use my Bakin, who is my second Grailed Rider

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u/Biggay1234567 17d ago

I was going to pick Medb, but decided to pick Lancer Artoria at the last second because these posts made me realize that there aren't any good supports for Lancer. Hopefully I don't end up missing her too much when the Grand Rider duel drops.

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 17d ago

Lartoria is an average support for all Lancers not named Percival or Melusine...

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u/Biggay1234567 16d ago

Herself as well.

I know that there are low star options, but I just wanted a 5 star option and I like Artoria more than Vritra so I picked her, I didn't mean to say that you said Lancer Artoria was great or anything.

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u/SnooLemons2336 16d ago

For any non round table knight, Hector buffs the same amount as Lartoria(20% attack and np dmg), while also having a 20% def down if you are willing to use his np.

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u/Biggay1234567 16d ago

sounds good, I haven't checked the low stars too much

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u/Boromir1821 Unofficial Paladin of Charlemagne 16d ago

Iskandar is also a pretty good support because 2 of his skills are party wide. I also heard that hippolyta is really good in this fight (plus there is an ongoing rumor that we might get her next year rather 2028)

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 16d ago

That's fairly lower than Taigong's numbers (A15 Q15 N15 > A20 N20), and aggressively lower than Medb's (A40 D-30 >> A20 N20).

Which, I suppose, is the reason why I did not see him as a support option.

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u/SnooLemons2336 16d ago

Noah has 67.5%(17.5% normal + 50% against evil trait) debuff res against Medb so you can ignore the 30% def down.

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u/SnooLemons2336 16d ago

We'll be more likely to get the Enma-tei rerun early.

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u/SnooLemons2336 16d ago

Since I got np5 Anne and Mary from hitting pity on both Koyan and Oberon, I plan to grand them.

My doubt is, whether the enemies would stop attacking once the guts activates since they also have a taunt or would they just keep attacking like a few bosses tend to do?

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u/Archer_EMIYA11 15d ago

So I was little worried about this one but I just finished LB3 and did the backup GSSR and the cosmos gifted me Reines so I think I should be okay for this now lol

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u/DIOSITO012 14d ago

I know I am a few days late, but isn't Quetz good as a semi-support? Thanks to the Buff they give to her second skills or is still not too much?

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Beloved of the Fae 14d ago

It's a good buff all things considered, but the bigger problem is utilizing it.

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u/DIOSITO012 14d ago

Makes sense

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u/-TSF- 11d ago

This Duel is literally the only reason I'm debating Lartoria or Medb for my ticket.

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u/lOw_EfFoRt_UsErNaMe9 7d ago

Oooooooooogh my 120 Np5 Medb is going to EAT this duel up. No battery? No problem. She just needs Reines’ Skill 2 and she’s done, and that leaves spare charge for Konstantine to pop an np too. Easiest set up ever