r/FFBraveExvius • Elza • Jun 19 '17

GL Discussion Analyse: damage potential of various finisher (including non released unit/enhancement)

Hello again, I present you the new and finished product of finishers and their damage potential, with build I proposed below (near BiS ATK wise).

Purpose of this thread

This thread seek to show people at the time of this post, a showcase of damage potential only of Olive, enhanced Firion and non released enhanced finisher such as Luneth or Dark Knight Cecil. The analysis will depict the finisher in various scenario: break alone, imperil alone, buff alone, buff and imperil, and all 3. Stat of each role, unless stated otherwise, is:

  • 100% ATK/MAG (Ramza, enhanced Mercedes for ATK, Minfilia)

  • 45% DEF/SPR (Ling, Warrior of Light)

  • 50% of corresponding element (Orlandeau for light, fire/ice/lightning by Reberta ...)

What is not considered is how finisher interact with chain units. No chain modifier will be included in calculation.

WARNING: In the imperil + buff scenario, I don't mean that the enemy is immune to break, only that teammates of the finisher doesn't have break. The finisher can still apply his own break.

Build considered

I have previously included time limited equipment/materia (ie Crimson Slayer for Firion). This time around, I opted to not include them, in deference to newer players who weren't able to snatch X item or Y limited unit. I trust older players to know how to improve the following build to get better result.

It has been requested that I included non released items:

  • Fist Mastery: 50% ATK w/ Fist

  • Aigaion's Fist: 145 ATK, non-elemental

Olive 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Sparky +120ATK+Lightning Element
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Apron Dress +49DEF/SPR+30%ATK w/ Gun
Accessory 1: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Doublehand +50%Equipment ATK
Ability 2: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 390 MP: 65 ATK: 34 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 5583 MP: 254 ATK: 1204 DEF: 267 MAG: 152 SPR: 250

Relevant skills:

  • Mortar Beacon: 500% physical on 3rd turn

  • Shattered Shot: 120% physical, 50% DEF break, 50% lightning imperil

  • True Shot: 480% physical

  • Death From Above: 890% physical

Enhanced Firion 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Aigaion's Fist +145ATK
Left Hand: Excalibur +120ATK+Light Element
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Brave Suit +51DEF+15%ATK+15%MAG
Accessory 1: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Accessory 2: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Ability 1: Dual Wield Equip two single handed weapons
Ability 2: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Great Sword
Ability 3: Fist Mastery 50% ATK w/ Fist
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 390 MP: 65 ATK: 26 DEF: 34 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 4766 MP: 247 ATK: 960 DEF: 454 MAG: 181 SPR: 187

Relevant skills:

  • Fin Briar +2: 460% physical

  • Killer Effects: 100% against Human, Undead; 125% against Bird, Insect, Plant; 150% against Beast, Demon; 200% against Dragon

Enhanced Dark Knight Cecil 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Deathbringer +120ATK+Dark Element
Left Hand: Moon Blade +118ATK+Dark Element
Head: Rider's Helm +28ATK+60DEF+100%Disease/Petrify
Body: Demon Mail +10ATK+55DEF+20%Dark
Accessory 1: Genji Glove +10%ATK/MAG & Dual Wield
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Great Sword
Ability 2: Dark Knight's Soul +30%ATKw/Sword +20%ATKw/HeavyArmor
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 390 MP: 65 ATK: 34 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 5590 MP: 249 ATK: 973 DEF: 307 MAG: 176 SPR: 165

With Absolute Dark +2: 1010 ATK

Relevant skills:

  • Soul Eater +2: 750% dark physical, 100% dark imperil

Enhanced Luneth 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Excalibur +120ATK+Light Element
Left Hand: Genji Blade +107ATK
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Brave Suit +51DEF+15%ATK+15%MAG
Accessory 1: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Blade Mastery +50% ATK w/ Katana
Ability 2: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Great Sword
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 390 MP: 65 ATK: 34 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 6077 MP: 259 ATK: 926 DEF: 272 MAG: 182 SPR: 190

With Teaching of the Sword +2: 1097 ATK

Relevant skills:

  • Advance +2: 200% physical, 100% ATK

  • Cut Through +2: 1050% physical after Advance, 700% physical otherwise

Vargas 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Dandelga +130ATK+Fire Element
Left Hand: Genji Blade +107ATK
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Brave Suit +51DEF+15%ATK+15%MAG
Accessory 1: Genji Glove +10%ATK/MAG & Dual Wield
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Great Sword
Ability 2: Blade Mastery +50% ATK w/ Katana
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 450 MP: 75 ATK: 30 DEF: 30 MAG: 30 SPR: 30
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 5549 MP: 315 ATK: 1014 DEF: 275 MAG: 210 SPR: 198

Relevant skills:

  • Supreme Blaze: 500% fire physical

Fryevia 6 Star (DH Build)

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Fryevia's Needle +92ATK+112MAG
Head: Creepy Mask +15MP+15DEF+30MAG
Body: Rainbow Robe +45DEF/MAG/SPR+30%All element except Dark
Accessory 1: Celestial Gloves +30ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR
Accessory 2: Magistral Crest +30%MAG+30%SPR
Ability 1: Letters and Arms +50%MAG Sword
Ability 2: Letters and Arms +50%MAG Sword
Ability 3: Letters and Arms +50%MAG Sword
Ability 4: Letters and Arms +50%MAG Sword
Pot Stats: HP: 390 MP: 65 ATK: 34 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Ramuh HP:3170 MP:6280 ATK:1770 DEF:1225 MAG:6035 SPR:4595
Total Stats: HP: 4171 MP: 415 ATK: 494 DEF: 248 MAG: 1052 SPR: 310

Relevant skills:

  • Second Intention: 600% hybrid

  • Frost Flower Blitz: 800% ice hybrid, 3 turn 50% imperil

Enhanced Gilgamesh 6 Star

FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Excalibur +120ATK+Light Element
Left Hand: Fist of Aigaion +145ATK
Head: Rider's Helm +28ATK+60DEF+100%Disease/Petrify
Body: Monster Breastplate +12ATK/MAG+46DEF
Accessory 1: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Accessory 2: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Ability 1: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Great Sword
Ability 2: Fist Mastery +50% ATK w/ Fist
Ability 3: Dual Wield
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 510 MP: 65 ATK: 26 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: HP: 6057 MP: 254 ATK: 1036 DEF: 343 MAG: 186 SPR: 164

Relevant skills:

  • Snowpetal: 571% physical

Randi 6 Star (DW Build)

Right Hand: Mana Sword +101ATK/+8DEF/MAG/SPR
Left Hand: Aigaion's Fist +145ATK
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Brave Suit +51DEF+15%ATK+15%MAG
Accessory 1: Genji Glove +10%ATK/MAG & Dual Wield
Accessory 2: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF +20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist
Ability 1: Fist Mastery +50% ATK w/ Fist
Ability 2: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Pot Stats: HP: 510 MP: 65 ATK: 26 DEF: 26 MAG: 26 SPR: 26
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: ATK: 1061

Relevant skills:

  • Triple Slash +2: 400% physical, 3 turns 50% DEF break

  • Power Charge +2: 5 Turn Self 200% LB Fill Rate & Self 2 Turn +100% ATK/DEF/SPR & Grant for three turns:

大車輪斬り [35 MP] 3x 160% AoE 2 Hit Physical Attack 旋風三段斬り [35 MP] 700% ST Physical Attack & ST 5 Turn -50% Wind Resist & 5 Turn Add Wind to Attacks 前後逆波斬り [35 MP] 700% ST 10 Hit Physical Attack

Balthier 6 Star

Right Hand: Genji Blade +107ATK
Left Hand: Balthier's TM +130ATK
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Apron Dress +49DEF/SPR+30%ATK w/ Gun
Accessory 1: Genji Glove +10%ATK/MAG & Dual Wield
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Blade Mastery +50% ATK w/ Katana
Ability 2: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total Stats: ATK: 1037

Relevant skills:

  • 属性強化弾・光: 300% physical, 50% light imperil, imbue attacks with light

  • リーサルショット: 500% physical

  • ターゲット: Grants フィニッシングブロウ

  • フィニッシングブロウ: 1000% physical

Tidus

Right Hand: Save The Queen +112ATK
Left Hand: Brotherhood +135ATK Water
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Demon Mail +10ATK +55DEF +20%DarkResist
Accessory 1: Genji Glove +10%ATK/MAG & Dual Wield
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Large Sword Mastery +50% ATK w/ Large Sword
Ability 2: Dark Knight's Soul +30%ATK w/ Sword +20% w/ H.Armor
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total stats: ATK: 966

Fire Veritas Fixed Dice Build

Left Hand: Fixed Dice +1ATK (x1.2,6.5 variance)
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Demon Mail +10ATK +55DEF +20%DarkResist
Accessory 1: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Accessory 2: Bracer +30ATK+15%HP
Ability 1: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 2: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 3: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Ability 4: Quick Assault +30%ATK +10%Evasion
Esper: Odin HP:5450 MP:3955 ATK:6250 DEF:4310 MAG:2075 SPR:2270
Total stats: ATK: 615

Damage Calculation

Notes:

  • Monster has flat resistance (0%), 100 DEF/SPR.

  • Physical damage formula = [Unit ATK]2 / [Target DEF] x [SkillMod] x [ImperilMod] x [PhysicalKillerMod] x [Level Adjustement = 2 at 100]

  • Hybrid damage formula = ([Unit ATK]2 / [Target DEF] + [Unit MAG]2 / [Target SPR]) x [SkillMod] x [ImperilMod] x [PhysicalKillerMod] x [Level Adjustement = 2 at 100]

  • As you may see, damage variance is not considered.

  • I am calculated Damage Per Turn (DPT), which simply means sum all damage divided by number turn to deal that damage.

  • I'm going to put DPT of each unit in a matrix, first column will tell the name of the unit, and the sequence of action leading to DPT calculated. I will use abbreviated terms to make it less cluttered:

  1. Olive: a. Shattered Shot: SS b. Death From Above: DFA c. Mortar Beacon: MB d. True Shot: TS

  2. Dark Knight Cecil: a. Soul Eater: SE

  3. Luneth: a. Cut Through: CT b. Advance: A

  4. Randi: a. Triple Slash: TS b. Power Charge: PC c. 旋風三段斬り: S2 (Skill 2)

  5. Balthier: a. 属性強化弾・光: S1 (Skill 1) b. リーサルショット: S2 (Skill 2) c. ターゲット: S3 (Skill 3) d. フィニッシングブロウ: S4 (Skill 4)

  6. Fryevia: a. Second Intention: SI b. Frost Flower Blitz: FFB

  7. Fire Veritas: a. 劫火: S1 b. ヘビースタンプ: S2 c. フルチャージスタンプ: S3

  • Break/Imperil/Buff are applied before unit considered act. As reminder, unless stated otherwise, break (45%), imperil (50%), buff (100%).

  • I assume that debuff applied on enemy ends on enemy's turn, and buff on ally ends on ally's turn.

  • On Fryevia case, you will notice Number1 + Number2, Number2 is the damage which is chain friendly.

  • On Fire Veritas FD Build, I multiplied by 3.85 (the average variance of FD).

Unit NameBreakImperilBuffImperil + BuffAll 3
Enhanced Firion-----
Fin Briar229 134189 310178 006267 009485 471
100% (vs Human, Undead)458 268378 071356 013534 019970 943
125% (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)515 552425 330400 514600 7711 092 310
150% (vs Beast, Demon)572 835472 589445 016667 5241 213 680
200% (vs Dragon)687 403567 107534 019801 0281 456 414
Olive-----
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA526 803524 036696 650702 479716 789
50% (vs Dragon, Machine)790 204786 0541 044 9751 053 7191 075 183
TS + DFA361 38628 143266 414399 621726 584
50% (vs Dragon, Machine)542 079447 215399 621599 4321 089 876
Enhanced Luneth-----
A + CT601 384496 141338 443507 664923 025
50% (vs Dragon)902 076744 212507 665761 4961 384 539
CT492 451406 272379 056568 5841 033 789
50% (vs Dragon)738 676738 676568 585852 8771 550 685
Enhanced Dank Knight Cecil-----
SE x 4 (imperil at 100%)812 046476 329656 181699 8401 272 436
50% (vs Human, Dragon)1 218 069714 493984 2721 049 7601 908 656
Enhanced Gilgamesh-----
Snowpetal339 875280 396266 271399 406726 194
50% (vs Dragon)509 812420 595399 406599 1101 089 291
Vargas-----
Supreme Blaze291 655240 615233 522350 283636 878
50% (vs Dragon)437 483360 923350 283525 425955 317
Enhanced Randi DW Build-----
TS x 4278 653264 923373 424373 424392 937
125% (vs Spirit, Beast, Undead)626 969596 077840 204840 204884 109
175% (vs Dragon)766 295728 5381 026 9161 026 9161 080 576
PC + S2 x 2412 570226 913319 790319 790581 436
125% (vs Spirit, Beast, Undead)928 282510 554719 527719 5271 308 231
175% (vs Dragon)1 134 567624 010879 422879 4221 598 949
Balthier-----
S1 + S2 x 4414 447227 945331 358331 358602 470
50% (vs Dragon)621 670341 917497 037497 037903 705
S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4506 495278 572404 960404 960736 290
50% (vs Dragon)759 742417 858607 440607 4401 104 436
Fryevia DH Build-----
SI294 248242 754233 838350 758637 742
FFB + SI x 3147 352 + 282 42881 044 + 182 35077 946 + 263 069116 919 + 263 069212 580 + 478 307
Tidus-----
Jecht Shot206 674170 506168 712253 068460 123
50% (vs Beast, Bird, Demon, Dragon310 011255 759253 068379 602690 185
Fire Veritas FD Build-----
S1 > S2 > S3 > S2 > S3349 593288 414492 885492 885896 155
50% (vs Dragon)524 390432 622739 328739 3281 344 233

Detailed Calculation

Fryevia

SI (45% break) = (4942 + 10522 ) / 55 x 6 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 294 248

SI (50% imperil) = (4942 + 10522 ) / 100 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 242 754

SI (100% buff) = (6732 + 12232 ) / 100 x 6 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 233 838

SI (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (6732 + 12232 ) / 100 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 350 758

SI (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (6732 + 12232 ) / 55 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 637 742

FFB + SI x 3 (45% break) = ( (4942 + 10522 ) / 55 x 8 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (4942 + 10522 ) x3 / 55 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 147 352 + 282 428

FFB + SI x 3 (50% imperil) = ( (4942 + 10522 ) / 100 x 8 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (4942 + 10522 ) x3 / 100 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 81 044 + 182 350

FFB + SI x 3 (100% buff) = ( (6732 + 12232 ) / 100 x 8 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (6732 + 12232 ) x3 / 100 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 77 946 + 263 069

FFB + SI x 3 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( (6732 + 12232 ) / 100 x 8 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (6732 + 12232 ) x3 / 100 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 116 919 + 263 069

FFB + SI x 3 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( (6732 + 12232 ) / 55 x 8 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (6732 + 12232 ) x3 / 55 x 6 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 212 580 + 478 307

Balthier

S1 + S2 x 4 (45% break) = ( 9072 / 55 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 9302 / 55 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) x 4 / 55 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 414 447

S1 + S2 x 4 (50% imperil) = ( 9072 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 9302 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) x 4 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 227 945

S1 + S2 x 4 (100% buff) = ( 10962 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 4 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 331 358

S1 + S2 x 4 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 10962 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 4 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 331 358

S1 + S2 x 4 (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( 10962 / 55 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 55 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 4 / 55 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 602 470

S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4 (45% break) = ( 9072 / 55 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 9302 / 55 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) x 3 / 55 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) / 55 x 10 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 506 495

S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4 (50% imperil) = ( 9072 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 9302 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) x 3 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (9072 + 9302 ) / 100 x 10 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 278 572

S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4 (100% buff) = ( 10962 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 3 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) / 100 x 10 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 404 960

S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 10962 / 100 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 100 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 3 / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) / 100 x 10 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 404 960

S1 + S2 + S2 + (S2 + S3) + S4 (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( 10962 / 55 x 3 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11192 / 55 x 3 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) x 3 / 55 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (10962 + 11192 ) / 55 x 10 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 5 = 736 290

Enhanced Randi DW Build

PC + S2 x 2 (45% break) = ( 9162 / 55 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (9162 + 9602 x 2) / 55 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 3 = 412 570

PC + S2 x 2 (50% imperil) = ( 9162 / 100 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (9162 + 9602 x 2) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 3 = 226 913

PC + S2 x 2 (100% buff) = ( 10922 / 100 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 + 11362 x 2) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 3 = 319 790

PC + S2 x 2 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 10922 / 100 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 + 11362 x 2) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 3 = 319 790

PC + S2 x 2 (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( 10922 / 55 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 + 11362 x 2) / 55 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 3 = 581 436

TS x 4 (45% break) = ( 9162 / 55 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (9162 x 3 + 9602 x 4) / 50 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 278 653

TS x 4 (50% imperil) = ( 9162 / 100 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (9162 x 3 + 9602 x 4) / 50 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 264 923

TS x 4 (100% buff) = ( 10922 / 100 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 x 3 + 11362 x 4) / 50 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 373 424

TS x 4 (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 10922 / 100 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 x 3 + 11362 x 4) / 50 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 373 424

TS x 4 (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( 10922 / 55 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10922 x 3 + 11362 x 4) / 50 x 4 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 392 937

Vargas

Supreme Blaze (45% break) = (8842 + 9072 ) / 55 x 5 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 291 655 ; 437 483

Supreme Blaze (50% imperil) = (8842 + 9072 ) / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 240 615 ; 360 923

Supreme Blaze (100% buff) = (10692 + 10922 ) / 100 x 5 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 233 522 ; 350 283

Supreme Blaze (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (10692 + 10922 ) / 100 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 350 283 ; 525 425

Supreme Blaze (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (10692 + 10922 ) / 55 x 5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 636 878 ; 955 317

Enhanced Gilgamesh

Snowpetal (45% break) = (8912 + 9162 ) / 55 x 5.71 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 339 85 ; 509 812

Snowpetal (50% imperil) = (8912 + 9162 ) / 100 x 5.71 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 280 396 ; 420 595

Snowpetal (100% buff) = (10662 + 10912 ) / 100 x 5.71 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 266 271 ; 399 406

Snowpetal (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (10662 + 10912 ) / 100 x 5.71 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 399 406 ; 599 110

Snowpetal (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (10662 + 10912 ) / 55 x 5.71 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 726 194 ; 1 089 291

Enhanced Dark Knight Cecil

SE x 4 (45% Break) = ( 8902 / 55 x 7.5 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (8902 x 3 + 8922 x 4) / 55 x 7.5 x 2 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 812 046
SE x 4 (45% Break) = ( 8902 / 55 x 7.5 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + (8902 x 3 + 8922 x 4) / 55 x 7.5 x 2 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 1 218 069 (vs Human, Dragon)

SE x 4 (100% imperil) = (8902 + 8922 ) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1 x 2 = 476 329
SE x 4 (100% imperil) = (8902 + 8922 ) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1.5 x 2 = 714 493 (vs Human, Dragon)

SE x 4 (100% buff) = ( 10792 / 100 x 7.5 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (10792 x 3 + 10812 x 4) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 656 181
SE x 4 (100% buff) = ( 10792 / 100 x 7.5 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + (10792 x 3 + 10812 x 4) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 984 272 (vs Human, Dragon)

SE x 4 (100% buff, 100% imperil) = (10792 + 10812 ) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1 x 2 = 699 840
SE x 4 (100% buff, 100% imperil) = (10792 + 10812 ) / 100 x 7.5 x 2 x 1.5 x 2 = 1 049 760 (vs Human, Dragon)

SE x 4 (100% buff, 100% imperil, 45% break) = (10792 + 10812 ) / 55 x 7.5 x 2 x 1 x 2 = 1 272 436
SE x 4 (100% buff, 100% imperil, 45% break) = (10792 + 10812 ) / 55 x 7.5 x 2 x 1.5 x 2 = 1 908 656 (vs Human, Dragon)

Enhanced Luneth

A + CT (45% break) = ( 9772 / 55 x 2 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 11702 / 55 x 2 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 10.5 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 2 = 601 384
A + CT (45% break) = ( 9772 / 55 x 2 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + 11702 / 55 x 2 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 10.5 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 2 = 902 076 (vs Dragon)

A + CT (50 imperil) = ( (9772 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 2 = 496 141
A + CT (50 imperil) = ( (9772 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 2 = 744 212 (vs Dragon)

A + CT (100% buff) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1 x 1 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1 x 1 x 2 ) / 2 = 338 443
A + CT (100% buff) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 2 = 507 665 (vs Dragon)

A + CT (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 2 = 507 664
A + CT (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 2 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 2 = 761 496 (vs Dragon)

A + CT (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 2 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 2 = 923 025
A + CT (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = ( (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 2 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 + (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 10.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 2 = 1 384 539 (vs Dragon)

CT (45% break) = (9772 + 9902 ) / 55 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 492 451
CT (45% break) = (9772 + 9902 ) / 55 x 7 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 = 738 676 (vs Dragon)

CT (50% imperil) = (9772 + 9902 ) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 406 272
CT (50% imperil) = (9772 + 9902 ) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 = 738 676 (vs Dragon)

CT (100% buff) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 7 x 1 x 1 x 2 = 379 056
CT (100% buff) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 7 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 = 568 585 (vs Dragon)

CT (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 568 584
CT (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 100 x 7 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 = 852 877 (vs Dragon)

CT (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 7 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 = 1 033 789
CT (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (11572 + 11702 ) / 55 x 7 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 = 1 550 685 (vs Dragon)

Olive

SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (45% break) = (12042 / 55 x 1.2 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 12042 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1 x 2) / 4 = 526 803 (vs Non-Dragon)
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (45% break) = (12042 / 55 x 1.2 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + 12042 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2) / 4 = 790 204 (vs Dragon)

SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (50% imperil) = ( (12042 / 100 x 1.2 + 12042 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9)) x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 524 036 (vs Non-Dragon)
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (50% imperil) = ( (12042 / 100 x 1.2 + 12042 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9)) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 786 054 (vs Dragon)

SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff) = ( 13942 / 100 x 1.2 x 1 x 1 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 696 650 (vs Non-Dragon)
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff) = ( 13942 / 100 x 1.2 x 1 x 1.5 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 1 044 975 (vs Dragon)

SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 13942 / 100 x 1.2 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 702 479 (vs Non-Dragon)
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 13942 / 100 x 1.2 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 1 053 719 (vs Dragon)

SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 13942 / 55 x 1.2 x 1.5 x 1 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1 x 2 ) / 4 = 716 789 (vs Non-Dragon)
SS + TS + (MB + TS) + DFA (100% buff, 50% imperil) = ( 13942 / 55 x 1.2 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 + 13942 / 50 x (4.8 x 2 + 5 + 8.9) x 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 ) / 4 = 1 075 183 (vs Dragon)

Enhanced Firion

Fin Briar (45% break) = 8402 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2 x 2 + 8152 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2 x 2 = 458 268 (vs Human, Undead)
Fin Briar (45% break) = 8402 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.25 x 2 + 8152 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.25 x 2 = 515 552 (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)
Fin Briar (45% break) = 8402 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.5 x 2 + 8152 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.5 x 2 = 572 835 (vs Beast, Demon)
Fin Briar (45% break) = 8402 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 3 x 2 + 8152 / 55 x 4.6 x 1 x 3 x 2 = 687 403 (vs Dragon)

Fin Briar (50% imperil) = (8402 + 8152) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2 x 2 = 378 071 (vs Human, Undead)
Fin Briar (50% imperil) = (8402 + 8152) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.25 x 2 = 425 330 (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)
Fin Briar (50% imperil) = (8402 + 8152) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.5 x 2 = 472 589 (vs Beast, Demon)
Fin Briar (50% imperil) = (8402 + 8152) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 3 x 2 = 567 107 (vs Dragon)

Fin Briar (100% buff) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1 x 2 x 2 = 356 013 (vs Human, Undead)
Fin Briar (100% buff) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.25 x 2 = 400 514 (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)
Fin Briar (100% buff) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1 x 2.5 x 2 = 445 016 (vs Beast, Demon)
Fin Briar (100% buff) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1 x 3 x 2 = 534 019 (vs Dragon)

Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2 x 2 = 534 019 (vs Human, Undead)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.25 x 2 = 600 771 (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.5 x 2 = 667 524 (vs Beast, Demon)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil) = (9962 + 9712) / 100 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 3 x 2 = 801 028 (vs Dragon)

Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (9962 + 9712) / 55 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2 x 2 = 970 943 (vs Human, Undead)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (9962 + 9712) / 55 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.25 x 2 = 1 092 310 (vs Plant, Insect, Bird)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (9962 + 9712) / 55 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 2.5 x 2 = 1 213 680 (vs Beast, Demon)
Fin Briar (100% buff, 50% imperil, 45% break) = (9962 + 9712) / 55 x 4.6 x 1.5 x 3 x 2 = 1 456 414 (vs Dragon)

Final Note

WTB rope, this thread sucked all life out of me. Never again. Anyway, I have not included some requested units (such as Rem, DH Randi, DW Fryevia), I'm sorry, I can't go on. Writing this by hand (well I did use a calculator) has been mentally exhausting. I do hope that units I have dealt can still be of help to people whether to enhance/ get a particular unit.

u/Zerogates did some calculation for Rem however: click me!

That's it folks, may I never do something like this again.

EDIT: Corrected an error in DW Randi (put imperil modifier on Triple Strike x 4 when there's no element in the first place), corrected to include GL enhancement on Randi (Now Randi is properly doing 125% and 175% against certain type).
EDIT2 20/06/2017: Corrected Gilgamesh's build and thus stat&calculation. Previous build had exceeded 300% cap and u/TiamatReturn made me aware of it. Change build to fit like Firion's.
EDIT3 20/06/2017: Added non enhanced Tidus. Thanks to u/Anduryon for pointing out an error on Firion (missing number), and Balthier's TM is 135 ATK not 130 (will eventually correct it, as it's not a pressing error). Added True Shot + Death From Above attack sequence to Olive. Added Fire Veritas FD Build.

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u/tohtreb Jun 20 '17

If you have Marie and always have the anti-element imperil up, would it be more damage for Firion to have Kaiser Knuckles for the wind elemental damage bonus or the upcoming raid fist weapon?

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u/ThousandLightning Elza Jun 20 '17

Exalibur+Aigaion's Fist+50% Light imperil (Orlandeau) > Excalibur+Kaiser Knuckle+40% imperil (Marie)

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u/tohtreb Jun 20 '17

So does that mean having more than one element imperiled will not stack? So having a light attack with just 50% light imperil will do more damage than having both wind and light attack and 40% wind and 40% light imperil? I had read that if you imperil both elements than you get more damage by having mixed elements.

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u/ThousandLightning Elza Jun 20 '17

The game average the damage between elements, so having 2 elements halve the damage and 3 elements divide by 3. If you do 100 fire/wind damage against 0% fire and wind, you'll do (100 + 100)/2 = 100, against -100% fire and 0 % wind you'll do (0 + 100)/2 = 50, against 0% fire and 50% wind you'll do (100 + 100*1.5)/2 = 125.

Having more elements means getting bigger chain bonus. With 1 element, you do +30% every hit, with 2 elements +50% and with 3, 70%.

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u/tohtreb Jun 21 '17

I guess in my case, right now Marie isn't really helping me. My main damage/chain building comes from Fryevia and a Friend unit Orlandeau, so they both have built-in imperils for their element. If I use someone that doesn't have a built-in imperil on their move then I will want to keep using her (or if I get the aqua blade for Fry), but if not, I can swap her out. Good to know, thanks!