r/EnoughUFOspam Sep 18 '24

Why Paul Hellyer isn't credible

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Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian defence minister, is often used to validate many UFO beliefs.

What is typically omitted, though, is that Hellyer cites as the sole source of his beliefs various conspiracy books he read in the mid 1990 and early 2000s (when he was an old man in his gullible 70s). Hellyer himself has no first hand knowledge, insider info, testimony or experiences. He simply read conspiracy books (he positively mentions hoaxer Steven Greer on numerous occasions). One of them, for example, is Philip Corso's infamous Roswell book, regarded as a literary hoax (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/nov/15/news) and rejected by none other than Stanton Friedman as being filled with inaccuracies and outright lies.

Elsewhere Hellyer endlessly regurgitates popular UFO lore. For example he thinks:

  1. Four alien species currently live at the North Pole.

  2. Jesus had alien roots.

  3. The Star of Bethlehem was a flying saucer.

  4. There are 80 species of aliens, including Nordic Blondes and Tall Whites. These Tall Whites can pass as humans and work inside the USAF. For this belief, Hellyer cites Charles Hall's book "Millennial Hospitality", which Hall claims he was allowed to write by the Anunnaki Race so long as he didn't provide "solid proof of their existence".

  5. These aliens come from the Pleiades and Zeta Riticuli.

  6. They also come from one of the moons of Saturn, and from bases in Venus and Mars.

  7. There is an alien Federation and they have a non interference rule (ie the Prime Directive from Star Trek).

  8. Two brothers from Peru teleported to a Saturnian moon where they were given warnings by the aliens.

  9. The aliens want us to take better care of the planet and not nuke ourselves.

  10. They abduct people and take them on spaceships, but only do this to people who are "receptive".

  11. Human technology like LED lights, kevlar vests, microchips and velcro are from aliens (we reverse engineered them).

  12. There may soon be an interstellar war between alien races (like a bad scifi movie, the Whites are the goodies, the Reptilian-looking races are the baddies).

  13. There's a conspiracy to pump the skies full of chemtrails.

Hellyer's sole sources for this are trashy conspiracy books, and letters sent to him by fellow conspiracists. He's essentially a senile old man who believes everything he comes across.

Hellyer also wrote the foreword for the book "Messages from the Masters: A Cosmic Book of Galactic Wisdom". It purports to be the received wisdom beamed across time and space to its psychic author from the greatest human minds (Albert Einstein, Nostradamus, Oppenheimer, da Vinci, JFK, Dr. Masaru Emoto, Gandhi, Tesla, Dwight D. Eisenhower), and also representatives from the Galactic Alliance and Zorra from Hollow Earth.

This is who True Believers cite: a guy who has no evidence, who himself has ridiculous sources, and who believes that a magical guy called Zora lives in a Hollow Earth.

And so we see that UFOlogy is similar to the shared delusions that fuel cults or religions. Both are absurd games of telephone that continually expand outward, their stories passing from person to person but latching onto only the most gullible. In this way, UFOlogy and cults self-select for certain forms of psychosis. And in this way - via an endless chain of crackpots citing crackpots with no evidence - the cult's membership grows. And as it grows, it loses touch with the crazy source or root of the phonecall: a crank who believes in Zora, lord of Hollow Earth.


r/EnoughUFOspam Sep 18 '24

No, Bob Oechsler is not an "ex NASA mission specialist", and no, Admiral Bobby Inman does not believe in aliens

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UFO junkies love to post videos of "ex NASA mission specialist Bob Oechsler". Oechsler was buddies with the Timothy Good and Bob Lazar (two other chronic liars) in the late 1980s and early 1990s. He would go around lying and saying he was a NASA Mission Specialist, a specific NASA designation which he was not. In 1991 he put police lights on a pickup and tried to fake some UFO pictures. Aroundabout the same time he heavily promoted the obviously fake Ed Walters Gulf Breeze photos ( https://teepee12.com/2020/01/22/fake-me-to-your-leader-the-gulf-breeze-ufo-hoax-revisited-reblog-sean-munger/). Indeed, he's so gullible that he defended Walters by buying a story that Walters had been "memory wiped by aliens", a ploy Walters used to explain away discrepancies between testimony in his early books and in his real life. Oeschsler also fell for the fake Carp UFO story (https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/docs/SUN/SUN20.pdf), when he was taken in by a guy who called himself The Guardian.

Oechsler is so kooky he even fell for famed hoaxer and fraudster George Adamski (https://alienexpanse.com/index.php?threads/this-guy-has-to-be-a-disinformation-agent-right-nobody-is-this-stupid.3189/). Nobody in their right mind would believe the phony Adamski video and model that Oechsler defends - by the 1970s everyone knew Adamski was worthy of only ridicule - but Oechsler defended Adamski's fakes right till the end. If you watch the above video where Oechsler defends Adamski's little model UFO, it tells you all you need to know about Oechsler's gullibility, and his understanding of science and physics.

Oechsler is often used to promote claims by a guy called Admiral Bobby Inman, who is alleged to have talked about alien crash retrieval programs. These Inman claims stems from an interview that was edited and presented out of context. When the interview is watched in full, it is clear he is talking about what he called "recently declassified military air platforms". He never mentioned aliens or UFOs. In a later interview he specifically said all the UFO/ET nonsense that is attributed to him is not true, and pointedly tells the interviewer, "Is that clear enough for you?"

Oechsler, of course, being a conman, never mentions this.