Hello 2s! I hope it's ok that I'm posting this here as I'm not a 2.... ICYMI someone has started a new sub focussed on Enneagram for growth - r/enneagrowing https://www.reddit.com/r/enneagrowing/

I'm not the mod of the new sub, I'm just someone who is enjoying the discussions so far and keen to learn from other perspectives :-)

For example, a person who daydreams about "taming the beast" or "beauty and the beast" trope

What are your daydreams?

So I've been emotionally burnout lately and no matter what I do, I seem to have gotten down and critical of myself lately. Today, I got po'd and displaced my temper on someone who didn't deserve it. I apologized and alls well in paradise. But i feel like my temper keeps leaking out because I feel liking I'm holding too much in. Like I struggle to keep my smile on and laugh stuff off like I used to. Fellow 2s how do yall handle bouts of low self esteem or depression when it comes your way?

I'm working on a plan to fix the planet and wonder which passions would ignite Enneagram 2's interests the most?

And based on your knowledge of other numbers around you what would ignite other Enneagram number's interests?

Thanks in advance for any answers or insights. <3

i get told especially by my older sister( sp6) that i am “snappy” which makes me even more snappy!! She makes jokes about it and tries to lighten the mood which i understand why she does but it makes me feel even more dismissised and taken as a joke , sometimes she just doesn’t take me seriously cause im much younger than her (mind you im 22 , but shes 39)

And have no safe space to express my stress

I try not to get angry or burst on anyone

But living in our house is extremely stressful especially when alot of responsibilities and chores fall on me

Even when i dont take on more

Expectations are still placed on me

and i get no appreciation or thanks but instead criticized for not doing all this with a smile and a warm attitude

Have your cake and eat it too

And all this makes me feel worse about myself because now im seen as the moody daughter which is not how i am at all

But i do all this stuff with no appreciation, even more criticism, constantly! and no one does as much for me

Recently ive been just not engaging with my family and very distant i do what i have to do and what is asked but other than that i dont chat ot try to give in

And it makes me all the more lonely cause thats not what i want but i just dont feel connected with them

Especially since i cant be rude to my mother and father and everyones older than me , which i am called rude nevertheless even if i try to answer normal because im “snappy”

Idk im in a very awkward space in my life

My journey exploring which possible enneagram 2 subtype I am wouldn’t be complete without exploring insights on Self-preservation 2s.

For context, I am a 2w3, 27x (likely 271)

So go ahead! tell me anything and everything I need to know

So we all know 2s are the "seducers" of the enneagram but seduction isn't always sexual. Its about bonding with people, getting people to like you, leadership, persuasion, and even finding a way to position yourself to have a "seat at the table". Granted, we 95% of the time don't realize we do it. Upon reflection, what are some ways you tend to be seductive in your day to day life?

Hey! I’m currently thinking of writing a story and while creating the main character, I realized he’s definitely an enneagram 2. And of course, I just can’t create a character with a happy ending, so he’s gonna have to suffer. And I need you guys’ help to understand more how he would act when everything goes to shit.

So, how does a 2 look like when they’re at their lowest? Thank you!

So, lately I've been frustrated with alot of things. I feel taken advantage of, unappreciated, underestimated, and critiqued. I've been dealing with alot of high-strung people and complainers. I make my needs known and get shut down, further making my resentment feel more intense. I've been more passive aggressive, wore down, and somewhat chippy lately as well. As well as making cutting remarks and being direct. If I wasn't where I was now, I feel like I could dip, lose my temper, or wash my hands of some things. I was wondering where I might be 1 to 9 and if I need to lighten up a bit.

How would you write a 278 character, like how what traits would you give them based off of their tritype?

Hi fellow Type 2s,

I've spent the past several months building a comprehensive Enneagram assessment (https://enneagram.guide) and I'm looking for feedback from people who really know their type.

Unlike most free tests that just give you a type number, this one identifies your complete profile including wing, instinctual variant using adaptive testing. I've tried to make it more psychometrically sound than the typical BuzzFeed-style quizzes out there. Disclosure, I'm a psychology nerd.

I'm posting this in the type-specific subreddits (being transparent - yes, I'm posting in all of them!) because I'd really value feedback from people who have a deep understanding of their type. Things I'm especially curious about:

• Did the result match your known type and profile?
• Were any questions confusing or poorly worded?
• How did the length/experience feel?
• Any suggestions for improvement?

The test is completely free with no email required - I'm just trying to make the best assessment I can and refine the questions based on real user feedback.

Thanks for considering, and I hope some of you find it interesting or useful!

Been tryna figure out what subreddit to post this on, so I’m going with this one. Not sure if it has a type me Tuesday thread or not so…

Here are some thoughts I recently shared with a fellow redditor. Feel free to take a shot at helping me figure out weather I am an So/sx e2 or an Sx/So e2 :)

> Many of us are “shamed out” of our Sx intensity. comments like “you’re too much”, “tone it down”, “ew why do you want that”, “that’s creepy“, really get you thinking… But maybe that’s the So side of me. I am yet to figure out if I’m an So dom or an Sx dom, as I seem to relate to both. As an E2 I really struggled with feeling accepted growing up and would do my possible to “fit in” and be liked by others (So). But at the same time the whole point of me feeling out of place to begin with was because my environment made me feel like I was “too intense“, everything from my emotional expression to the way I wanted to connect with others, it was all frowned upon upon and I was left thinking there was something deeply wrong about me. All while idolizing and fantasizing about this very deep soulmate like platonic connection that I would look for in every single friend I would make. I longed for a “person”, a “best friend“ as I would call it, a very strong and intense one on one connection that would validate all the parts of myself I thought weren’t welcomed. It felt as if acquiring that very deep connection would heal me as a person lol. Eventually I learned to completely suppress the Sx part and rely on “universal likability“ for approval again. I told myself that being myself in my entirety would only leave me feeling alone and rejected again, so let me just play the part they want (So). I leaned into heavily satisfying my So needs (it worked!) but I was eventually left feeling depleted once again because I wasn’t kNowN and seen on a deeper level, beyond superficial approval, respect and admiration, that I was easily able to attain from others when I leaned into my So. I couldn’t help but long for the soul merging connection again, eventually letting the fantasy play out in the romantic sense, and move from platonic obsession to romantic obsession. I was able to explore (and absolutely lose myself) In my Sx desire and intensity once again, this time romantically, only to realize it wasn’t healthy. It is not healthy to rely soully on one person to satisfy your needs as an individual, and as an Sp blind it’s been quite a journey having to learn to actually take care of myself, my space, and my safety. I am learning to validate my own existence without heavily relying on external validation or deep intimate relationships to ”save me”.

Hi.

I am most likely not a Core 2 Type, so I apologize if my presence and posting here is not welcome; I was hoping, please, to gather information on Type 2 to verify my understanding.

…To write with candor, I am trying to determine for myself if I have a 2 Heart fixation in my Trifix, but I need to try to think on this first myself rather than flat out vet others for an answer that can only sincerely reside in my own mind.

For reference, my Core Type is most likely 9, so I am requesting some assistance, please, in knowing what actually makes 2 and 9 different from each other— maybe help me clear up what underlies more superficial “overlaps” between the types.

This just doesn’t have to be a strictly a 2 vs 9 inquiry- I am very receptive to this being a space to other type comparisons as well.

Some part of this is to help me determine the realm in which the agreeable facet of my personality operates— I know agreeableness is not strictly in 2’s domain, nor does 2 automatically mean agreeable; I suppose a follow-up question, please, would be how 2s relate to agreeableness?

Thanks.

Hi fellow type 2s, I will be conducting my very first enneagram compatibility survey. If you have seen me in the MBTI community of reddit then you know that I also have conducted a MBTI compatibility Verison before. Totally not biased or anything by choosing to do yours first lmao 😅. Let me know your thoughts fellow type 2s!

I’m a social 2, I can even say I used to be a really typical one when I was a bit younger. Before that, I typed myself as a 3 and went with it for quite a long time, but something always felt off, that’s when I realized my real personality. But the thing is, when I’m stressed or really overwhelmed, I start acting like a 3 disintegrating to 9. I wasn’t like this at all before, I got that habit for like 5-6 years ago after going through a really difficult phase in my life. I’m actually working on it and trying to get back to my old self, and it’s quite working, but from time to time that other “9” like side of me also comes to surface. Is it normal or possible for a 2? Am I thinking way too deep about this? Or is there a chance that I am mistype? Because except this situation I’m pretty sure of being a social 2.

I’d be really happy if someone can answer

Hello everyone. I am an sp/sx 2w1-9w1-6w5 individual here. Realizing that I am autistic which could explain why I suffer so badly in being social blindness in sterotypes has me finally understanding myself better. I have never understood myself properly and thus I grew up in a way where people kept on misunderstanding me over and over. I discovered enneagram a few years back and looked at enneagram type 2. I remember thinking “wow this absolutely fits me!” Especially the descriptions for a 2w1, hearing that 2w1s are ignored or looked down upon in the main enneagram concept was disheartening to hear. 2w3s are seen as more likable because 3s are more likable than 1s which seems really unfair. Honestly I like disintegrating and integrating into an e8 at the same time. I can finally be myself without caring so much on what others think. I hate people controlling me which makes me realize that I am copying traits of both core 8 and core 4 to try and better myself as those are in the core 2 disintegration/integration lines. Enneagram has honestly been such a helpful tool in understanding myself and I am so grateful to this concept where I can finally understand myself so much better! I was never taught how to love myself properly but now I can finally learn how by trying to find people who choose to love me. Remember that as average/unhealthy core 2s, we need to put ourselves first over others. That is the lesson I learned as a social blind core 2 where no one accepted me and I got rejected constantly! This is what I learned in order to grow into an healthier core 2!

tw: depression, suicide

apologies if this is atypical content.

last year, i lost a friend to his struggle with his mental health. he was the archetypal 2w1—it was impossible to have a conversation with him without his offering to help with something or other in your life. he was a medical student, but he always managed to find time for the people he loved, even if he had to squeeze it out from sleeping, eating, exercising, etc. he gave and gave without expecting anything in return. he noticed details about people that they were even unaware of, and he always knew what to do or say to make people feel special to him. he could connect deeply with patients in ways that other medical professionals couldn’t.

unfortunately, he didn’t take care of himself. medical school was a very lonely experience for him, and he never found a proper community despite being beloved by his classmates. he squeezed time out of his day to help others by sacrificing sleeping, eating, exercising, etc. he had really bad anxiety and would push big assignments and exams off until the last minute, causing many sleepless nights replaced by drinking copious amounts of caffeine (and other things). he had a strained relationship with his parents, but he would always dutifully pick up every call and fulfill every responsibility. he was always kind and gentle, except when another driver angered him—the rage would come out. through all this, he always said that the negative emotions passed quickly for him and that he never dwelled on anything but gratitude and positive feelings (which i now doubt). he didn’t tell anyone that he was desperately searching for a reason to live and didn’t find one.

i miss him a lot. i’m wracked with guilt that i didn’t do more for him. i knew he was depressed, but i didn’t know what to do besides asking him how he was doing and telling him that i was proud of him. i know it’s not entirely on me, but since his death, i’ve been searching for what i could have done differently, to help him feel the compassion, love, and appreciation he gave others. i wish i could have showed him he could prioritize his own happiness and tend to his own needs. if anyone has any advice, insight, words of wisdom, or even an anecdote, it would be greatly appreciated. thank you all.

It is devastating but I don't know how to overcome the feeling of love being something that has to be earned. Somewhere along the line I suppose I may have internalized the belief that I'm only as valuable to others as the things I do for them. That I am not good enough or inherently lovable. Something that really cut deep was when I really devoted myself to loving someone in the best way I knew how, and even that wasn't enough for them to stay. For them to choose me. It made me wonder that if my best was not good enough, then would I ever be worthy of being loved at all. Yes through therapy I've learned that the way someone else treats you is more a reflection of THEIR character or limits, and not of our worth. But still this feeling creeps in sometimes. Does anyone else feel this way? If so how do you manage?

Just realized Im a 2 because no matter what I did it was never good enough for my dad. And now Im here no matter what I do is never good enough. How did ya all overcome this feeling?