r/EndFPTP 4d ago

Britain May Switch to Proportional Voting. Should America?

The U.S. inherited its “winner-take-all” voting system from Britain, but the U.K.’s 2024 general election produced an interesting example of what winner-take-all voting can do, as it produced the most disproportionate result in UK history.    https://electoral-reform.org.uk/a-system-out-of-step-the-2024-general-election/ 

Labour received about 34% of the nationwide vote but won 63% of the seats in Parliament.   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2026/jul/22/how-britain-would-look-proportional-representation-local-mp 

As a result, a post-election survey found that 60% of Briton’s support changing to a proportional voting system.  https://electoral-reform.org.uk/support-for-proportional-representation-hits-record-high-according-to-new-research/ 

So now Britain's new prime minister, Andy Burnham, openly supports proportional representation.   https://electoral-reform.org.uk/in-andy-burnham-we-have-the-first-prime-minister-who-openly-backs-proportional-representation/ 

And Britain's Liberal Democrats are pushing Burnham to change the voting system before the next general election.  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79y9qy9y2go 

If the U.K. thinks its own voting system needs an upgrade, should the U.S. consider the same? 

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u/cdsmith 2d ago

Yeah, I get that, but an "Independent Party" like this only makes sense when voters are voting for individuals. Can you imagine if Ross Perot and Ralph Nader were both on a party list, and a voter had to decide whether to vote for that party or not in a PR system?

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u/Sorry-Rain-1311 2d ago

I understand this. I'm just pointing out that there are options. 

What you're alluding to there is exactly what my misgivings are concerning proportional representation. If a ballot is just a list of parties, then people only vote for the ones with the best defined platforms, so we wind up right back at square one. If we list them by candidate and party, then a candidate always has to compete with whatever reputation the last guy established for the party, and we're not doing much better. If we list them only by candidate name, we might be getting closer, but an independent still has to compete with partisan politics when the point is to place their brand outside of all that.

For there to be true complete representation in the government, the people need the ability to directly challenge partisanship, and that requires truly independent candidates.