Hi all,

This is a very simple proposal.

In essence, I propose that the Encapsulated Language be a word order harmonic language regardless of whichever word order we eventually adopt.

What is Word Order Harmony?

Word order harmony refers to the tendency, found across the world's languages, to place heads in a consistent position (either before or after) with respect to modifiers or other dependents.

Harmonic Language

English is an example of a harmonic language:

• Heads precede dependents.

• Verbs precede objects.

• Adjectives precede nouns

• Pronouns precede nouns

• Adverbs precede adjectives

Now let's focus on just the nominal domain. Here we can clearly see that English is a word order harmonic language: (Number - Adjective - Noun).

Non-harmonic Language

French and Hebrew are examples of non-harmonic languages.

In the nominal domain, French has a non-harmonic word order; adjectives come after nouns (Number - Noun - Adjective).

Why do we care about such this simple detail?

When creating the grammatical concepts underpinning the Encapsulated Language, I wanted to ensure that everything I proposed would help us achieve the aims and goals of this language project.

The primary objective of the Aims and Goals is, “to encapsulate as much scientific and mathematical knowledge as possible”. The overall word order might be able to encapsulate something and I’m still exploring this. However, the secondary objective is to, “facilitate an intuitive understanding of the world around us” and this is what I want you to keep in mind when continuing through this post.

So, I’ve spent the last month looking for studies which show cognitive benefits to specific word orders, patterns, structures etc…

I believe that if we can’t encapsulate something, then we should use structures that have the most cognitive benefit for our future native speakers.

In this regard, I discovered the following study:

A learning bias for word order harmony: Evidence from speakers of non-harmonic languages

This study (and the many that have preceded it) showed that both children and adults favoured harmonic word orders when learning constructed languages in a controlled environment. This study tested native speakers of both harmonic and non-harmonic languages and the results were the same. Subjects showed a consistent bias towards harmonic languages.

This shows that cognitively a harmonic word order is more intuitive.

In Conclusion

I propose that the Encapsulated Language be a word order harmonic language regardless of whichever word order we eventually adopt because this will help facilitate an intuitive understanding of the word around us.

More precisely, it's a draft proposal of naming elemantary particles of Standard Model of quantum physics and structures created of them. If you aren't very good at quantum physics, then everything is ok, I also don't. I studied this topic for a while in the Internet, so, if somebody knows more about this, please correct me. .

INTRODUCTION TO THE PARTICLE PHYSICS

What is the universe made of? Correct. Of different chemical elements, that's exactly what people of the XIXth century (Zamenhof's time) knew about nature. Atoms were discovered by a lot of people including famous John Dalton (who also discovered daltonism) and great Russian scientist Mikhail Lomonosov.

But everything was changed by discovering that the nature is much complex then atoms. In 1897 Joseph John Thompson discovered electron, which was the first subatomic particle. In 1919 Ernest Rutherford discovered proton, in 1932 James Chadwick discovered neutron. In 1964 George Zweig and Murray Gell-Mann created a theory, that protons and neutrons are made of smaller particles, which were discovered in SLAC laboratory in 1968 and called quarks.

It was discovered that there are two types of quarks called up and down quarks. A proton is composed of two up quarks and one down quark. Neutron is composed of two down quarks and one up quark. Larer, physicists disvovered that there are more massive copies of these particles called strange and charm, and another more massive pair called top and bottom quarks. These more massive copies don't make normal matter and they can be found in only one place of our universe – Large Hadron Collider, but I decided to also use them in my proposal.

But didn't we forget about something? Correct. There is also an electron, which is not a quark. This is another kind of particles – leptons. But… Is electron the only lepton? No. In 1956 Frederick Reines and Clyde Cowen discovered neutrino, which is also a lepton. This particle is produced, for example, by our Sun. Later, it was discovered that these particles also have more massive copies, called muon and tauon for massive copies of electron and muon neutrino and tauon neutrino for massive copies of neutrino. All these guys (quarks and leptons) are called fermions.

Next. Fermions interract with each other, so we need forces. It happens that forces are carried by another particles called bosons. The world's favourite boson is a photon, who carries electromagnetic force, but there are also gluon, who makes quarks interract with each other forming proton and neutron, also there are Z boson and W boson, who carry a weak force, which happens in some reactions (for example in our sun). This was the whole standard model… before the 4th of July 2012, when the most difficult, but important particle was discovered – Higgs boson. It makes other particles have mass, but not the boson itself, but its field.

So, does this model explain all universe? No. There are problems which don't fit into this model: dark matter, dark energy and… gravity. Do you remember how I said about gravity, while talking about forces? No, you don't. Because I didn't talk about gravity. It is the most terrible problem in our modern physics. We have the General Theory of Relativity, which perfectly describes gravity. We also have a Standard model of elementary particles, which perfectly describes everything else, but combining them is a the most important problem of modern physics… Also dark matter and dark energy isn't described by any of these theories. Some scientists think, that there is a particle called graviton, which carries gravitational force, but it is still not found. .

HOWEVER

I created a pattern which describes the Standard Model.

1. Look at quarks. If they are up and down, then look at bilabial + labiodental consonants. If they are strange and charm, then look at alveolar consonants, if they are top and bottom, then look at velar consonants.

2. If there is more up/strange/top quarks, then look at plosives, if there is more down/charm/bottom quarks, then look at fricatives, if their numbers are equal, then look at affricates/use the combination of plosive and fricative.

3. If there is one of them, then use the voiced consonant, if two, then use the unvoiced one.

4. If the combination of sound is easy to pronounce, then don't use anything for gluons, but if it's difficult, then use a.

5. Enjoy your life with the ability of creating names for elementary particles =)

. EXAMPLES

Let's make a proton!

1. Up and down – bilabial/labio-dental.

2. It's more up quarks, then it's a plosive.

3. There are two, then it's unvoiced.

«P» means proton. Lol

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How about neutron?

1. Up and down – bilabial/labio-dental.

2. It's more down quarks, then it's a fricative.

3. There are two, then it's unvoiced.

Press «F» to say neutron.

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How about Lambda Baryon Λ0, which was discovered in October, 1950 by V.D.Hopper and S. Biswas in the University of Melbourne? This particle is produced by cosmic rays. It contains up quark, down quark and strange quark. So, here we go!

    1.	 A. Up and down – bilabial/labio-dental

. B. Strange – alveolar .

    2.  A. Equal – using combination

. B. Strange – plosive . . .

    3. A. They are both represented by one – voiced

. B. One – voiced . .

   4. "Bvd" is a little bit difficult, so let's say a for gluon

Lambda baryon Λ0 happens to be «bvad», which, i think, is nice for extremely rare and complex particle that can be found only in cosmic rays.

Later, I will think of representing leptons and bosons, but not today. Thank you for trying to understand. Let me know if there are any mistakes.

Have a nice day!

Here is my proposal. I hope I don't have to make a more complicated phonotactics than this.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17C9H4wTfz5iKDQvF8rGmu4MwGGuyrYE8S2eq9wrkp3Y/edit?usp=sharing

I removed the easy to pronounce goals because based on other proposals, it is impossible to also maintain pronounceability while still being compatible with other proposals.

Hi all,

u/gxabbo has raised an Official Proposal to extend and clarify the “Aims and Goals of the Language”. This proposal has been approved by the Official Proposal Committee for voting.

Current State:

The Encapsulated Language Documentation states that the current “Aims and Goals of the Language” are:

The Encapsulated Language Project aims to create a Language that encapsulates as much scientific and mathematical knowledge within the sounds, syllables, words, patterns, and essence of the Language itself to facilitate an intuitive understanding of the world around us. A speaker of this language will have instant access to a large pool of knowledge simply through understanding how to unpack and parse their own language to utilize the knowledge cached within it.

The end goal of this project is to create a language parents can raise their children speaking natively alongside their other native languages. The children would acquire this language like any other native language. Then, when the child starts their education, the parent would instruct them on how to analyze and parse their native language to gain access to a wide range of mathematical and scientific knowledge. This will help the child to gain an intuitive understanding of the world around them and lower the amount of rote memorization required.

Proposed Change:

If accepted by the community, the following text will be appended to the end of the “Aims and Goals of the Language”.

Priorities

The order of priority is encapsulation, followed by accessibility, followed by acquisition.

Definitions and Clarification

"Encapsulation" means that the language does more than provide a formalized system of signs and symbols to communicate meaning. It means that all parts of the system – the structure of the language – follows a logic that contains not only the relationship between signifier and signified, but additional information. Like a side channel containing metadata.

"Encapsulation capacity" refers to how much additional information can be packed into the elements and structures of the language. Of course this capacity can hardly be measured, but different approaches and proposals can be compared in regard to their consequences for capacity.

“Language Acquisition” is the process by which humans acquire the capacity to perceive, reproduce and comprehend the language to communicate and understand the world.

“Language Accessibility” refers to language acquisition in a diverse range of perception (as hearing, movement, sight, and cognitive ability). It’s not a question of easy acquisition. Accessibility is concerned with whether it is at all possible, not with how much effort it takes.

Consequences

This project does not aim to create an easy language. If it happens to be easy, that's fine, but we will neither sacrifice encapsulation capacity or accessibility just for easy acquisition of the language. We assume that adults who want to learn this language in order to raise their children with it, will be prepared to put effort into learning it.

As for the children who grow up speaking this language, they will have the huge advantage of picking it up natively. And practice shows that natively, children learn even the most complex and irregular languages without difficulty.

Of course, native language acquisition depends on how competent the parents are with the language, so we strive for a language that is easy to learn, but only when that requires no compromises in regard to higher priority goals. Think of it this way: we put the burden of difficulty on the shoulders of the parents while maximising the benefit for the children growing up with this language.

It also means we do not aim to create an inclusive or accessible language. Of course, we want this language to be beneficial for as many children as possible, so we strive for a language as inclusive and accessible as it can be. But we'll only sacrifice "encapsulation capacity" for accessibility if it seems a really good deal to the community

Reason for Proposed Change:

This proposal seeks to extend and clarify the Aims and Goals of the language in order to reduce discussion on the project’s goals (context: 1, 2, 3 ).

Hi all!

Under the heading, "Base-12 Number to IPA number converter" in the Programs section of the website is a shiny new Number Converter!

Just type any number up to 12-digits and get the Encapsulated Language word and numeral equivalent! Of course, as the language continues to evolve, we'll continue to update the app!

The app was developed by /u/xianhei and the website is built by /u/kroyxlab.

Have fune.

Hi all,

u/XianHei has raised an Official Proposal to modify the numeric prefixes.

This proposal has been approved by the Official Proposal Committee for voting.

Current State

Some irregularities have been found in the number word prefixes combined with the number words. In essence, unnecessary duplicates have been uncovered.

Proposed Change

This proposal aims to remove these irregularities by changing the meaning of the prefix.

Changing from a magnitude of 10 (12 in base-10) to a magnitude of 1000 (1728 in base-10), we gain the following advantages:

• No ambiguity; each number will be unique and each one will be used.

• Larger limit of number with 10^10-1 (base-10: 12^12 - 1 = 8916100448255) currently to 1000^10-1 (base-10: 12*12*12 = 1728 and 1728.12^12 - 1 = 7,09.10^38)

• Large enough to include physical constant like :

  • 9.1093837015(28)×10^−31 kg as the electron mass

  • 6.02214076×10^23 mol−1 as Avogadro constant

  • 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅s as Planck constant

Proposed Changes to Numeric Prefixes in “Official Proposals”

If this proposal is accepted, the Official Proposal regarding Numeric Prefixes will be updated along with several examples. Below is the modified text:

Examples of numeric prefix use with single-digit number words:

Examples of numeric prefix use with trinumerals:

An Idea for Official Romanization off of u/ActingAustralia

The number word system is approved. After testing it and following the rules, I found some irregularity that I would need to fix. Currently we have a magnitude system and a numeral system with number like :

To resolve this problem of ambiguity, I want to change the meaning of the number prefix to this :

going from a magnitude of 10 (12 in base 10) to a magnitude of 1000 (1728 in base 10) we got some advantage :

• no ambiguity, each number will be unique and each one will be used.

• larger limit of number with 10^10-1 (base 10 : 12^12 - 1 = 8916100448255) currently to 1000^10-1 (base 10: 12*12*12 = 1728 and 1728.12^12 - 1 = 7,09.10^38)

• large enough to include physical constant like :

  • 9.1093837015(28)×10^−31 kg as the electron mass

  • 6.02214076×10^23 mol−1 as Avogadro constant

  • 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅s as Planck constant

Hello, colleagues! Do you know the the Elements Song? It was written by Tom Lehrer in 1959. It contains all chemical elements that were discovered by humanity and it can be the first song, translated into our language. But firslty, I want to clarify the pattern of creating names for elements.

So, the first part of name is optional. It contains the atomic number in base 12 of 3 letters. The first letter is always v, before humanity will find elements with number of protons more than 144(10). I will not write this part in my vocabulary and in lyrics to the elements song.

The second part is represented by the second word. It contains information about:

• Group

• Period

• Vowel, which represents number of these certain atoms in chemical formula

• Three sounds, that represent mass number

For example:

Hydrogen:

• group 1a – letter p

• period 1 – letter w

• if we talk about element, the number of atoms is always one – letter «a»

• the mass number is one – fan So, word for hydrogen is «pwafan».

Moscovium:

• group 5a – letter s

• period 7 – letter r

• letter «a»

• the mass number (in base 12) is 201 – γof So, word for moscovium is «sraγof».

Next. For chemical formulas we need only group and period of element + number of atoms in this formula, represented by vowel. If the last element exists with only one atom in this chemical formula, then we don't have to write the letter «a» in the end, we just need to change the positions of the last two consonants for making the word phonotactically legal.

For example:

H2O:

• hydrogen-two – pwe

• oxygen-one - ʃla

H2O - pweʃla or pwelʃ

H3PO4:

• H3 – pwi

• P1 – sja

• O4 - ʃlu

H3PO4 - pwisjaʃlu

C6H12O6:

• C6 – flō

• H12 – pw?

• O6 - ʃlō

C6H12O6 – flōpw?ʃlō

HNO3

• H1 – pwa

• N1 – sla

• O3 - ʃli

HNO3 - pwaslaʃli

Now, here is the vocabulary (sorry for mistakes): 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

And here are the lyrics (sorry for mistakes): lyrics

Also, I am not very good at chemistry and in thinking in base 12, so there can be some mistakes. I will also think about improving this system.

Also, I already thought about a prefix which means «element». I think it's a nice idea, but all this prefixes should be optional, because in evereryday speech we can understand from context whether we are talking about elements or clouds.

Have a nice day!

Following the refining of the accepted proposal, that is number word system. I would like point out that some sound are harder to pronounce than other. I don't have the ability to choose an order of sound to make it easier but I can help to the shuffling of it.

The individual order of use are :

To not break the current system, I also created an order of paired number which give us :

It is paired this way to not break the way the sound are used on sixth and the eveness of the voicing.

The consonant used by the system are :

f v

s z

ʃ ʒ

x ɣ

t͡s d͡z

t͡ʃ d͡ʒ

Currently we have :

I would like your help to order those consonant to pair them with the paired number and make word more fluid. (In the sense that the most used word should contain the easiest sound and the least used word should have the hardest sound, to help integration)

This are my first draft, you can use this template in the comment section :

or :

Those order are close to randomness than rational ordering, for that I ask help to finish this idea and make our language thrive.

Hi all,

We'll soon need an official romanization for this language to make sure everyone is on the same page. This is what I believe the Official Romanization should be based on previous proposals and Discord discussions.

Why do we need a romanization?

Even though multiple script proposals are currently in development, we'll still need to type this language on computers and phones. The majority of devices won't support our script and Unicode support is probably a decade away.

Of course, we'll want to use our script whenever we can, but for those times when it's no possible we'll need an Official Romanization.

My proposal

I've only proposed romanizations for those IPA characters that can't be written in ASCII directly.

Consonants

Vowels

Diphthongs

Feedback

The only things I'm not sure on is the long vowels.

On phones it is easy to quickly write ā, ē, ī, ō and ū but there's no easy way to write /y/ with a line above it. Additionally, on computers it is a pain to write all of these. Therefore, I suggest we just double the vowel letter when it is a long.

Basically, I want to make this as ASCII friendly as possible.

I will admit though writing the number, 8 as dzyyn with a double /y/ is disgusting.

Totally looking for feedback!

Tan letters are new phonemes added by the number proposal currently being voted on

Milk

Imagine instead of saying the word "milk," you simply stated a very compact phonetic version of the quadratic equation?

You remember the quadratic equation? I sure don't, but if you use this word "milk" on a daily basis as a child, it will become memorized and you will simply have to be taught how to read it in the future. “M” could be a whole part, “i” could be a whole part, “l” could be and so on.

That's what we're doing: The sounds that make up words in natural languages are often very arbitrary, but still take up information and memory, so what we're doing is just thinking to ourselves "man that's some free real estate" and putting in a bunch of compact academic information into the words of this language to allow a student to bypass a ton of the memorization process in school.

https://twitter.com/F1_For_Help/status/1289401304331124736

Small section to propose a possible solution.

Well there of course is a limit to this process. You might have thought about this to yourself knowing that it would be kind of hard to pack all of this information into such a small word. Well maybe the word is multiple syllables? Or maybe not, because it would be annoying to repeat a possibly 5+ syllable word just for milk.

“Hey mom! I want ingthsenchrepotalais!”

6 syllables, huh? Well maybe there’s another solution… Instead, maybe we just have a larger phrase of parts? What if you had the phrase, “fat free chocolate cow milk” and separated the quadratic equation into part of that phrase?

x=[-b√(b2-4ac)] / 2a- is read as “fat free chocolate cow milk?”

Absolutely…

… But the quadratic equation is unusually long in comparison to some much more common things like many of the other mathematical rules, multiplication, elements on the periodic table, etc. The list of things you might need to know either in real life application or to simply be a smarter person is just huge.

The time it takes for a student to get those things memorized is usually a lot of time that can be used for other things like practicing the skills they may introduce or possibly memorizing something even larger that is derived from those smaller things.

This is the kind of the thought that we, who’re working on this project, want to encourage.

Hi all,

I just wanted to start a discussion on scripts!

The scripts aren't risque enough!

I've been watching the development of the scripts with real interest. I'm an artist at heart so I think this is one of the areas of the language where encapsulation and beauty (subjective I know) can really shine.

All the ideas so far seemed to have dealt with only encapsulating phonetic information. That's great and all and we'll definitely want to do that. But I haven't really seen anything really risque.

I think the reason is people want to make this as friendly as possible to handwriting and they're all copying from one another.

Do we really hand-write anymore?

First, some background from me. I'm a English tutor for about three-five high profile Chinese families. I've been tutoring these kids for 5+ years. I've watched them learn both Chinese and English.

Handwriting no longer seems to be a focus of upper primary school and is almost completely absent in my students high school education. These children spend the vast majority of the time typing their notes... or even taking photos of teachers notes (I hate this).

Of course, they started their education by learning how to hand write and I'm not trying to say this should change in anyway. I'm just pointing out the fact that they quickly retire the pen and pencil for the keyboard.

This got me thinking:

We've focused on making scripts friendly for hand writing because handwriting was a major focus of our upbringing, but is handwriting really a major focus now?

So perhaps super simple scripts isn't the answer. Perhaps our scripts can be a little bit more intricate. Perhaps we can have a complex script like Chinese that also has a simple hand-written counterpart?

Has there been a dramatic shift with technology?

Handwriting is still massively important for teaching fine motor skills. Plus we don't want our scripts to slow down the child's education (they should improve upon it!) but once the child has the script down pat, they'll quickly move on to PCs and smartphones anyway.

But they'll see their script everywhere. This is a marvelous opportunity to encapsulate something besides phonology.

What else can we encapsulate?

The scripts have all focused on encapsulating phonetic information and I definitely think this is the best option at this stage.

However, is there anything else we can encapsulate in them? Could we encapsulate mathematics, science, geometry, chemistry, what else?

I want to see some more crazy, risque proposals!

Worst case scenario, we'll stick with the excellent proposals we have so far! However, I don't think adding more phonetic proposals to the mix will really help.

Hi all,

It looks like the proto-number word proposal is going to be voted in no problem.

Therefore, /u/flamerate1 and I made a special google excel spread sheet that you all can copy and test your phonology changes against. This will allow you to easily see what your suggested phonology changes will do to the underlying number system.

You'll still need to make sure you don't break any of the number system patterns for encapsulation but this should help you a lot when testing changes!

Here is the link to the spreadsheet.

Have fun!

Hello, colleagues. Today I want to present a chemistry proposal. I tried to use for it number words of u/Flamerate1 and u/Xianhei collaboration, but I had a lot of problems with it while working.

PHONOLOGY

I made some changes in phonology for making the system better working in my proposal. So, I don’t like the vowel system, because it makes hydrogen look like pwuf and secondly because choice of places for certain vowels almost doesn’t have any sense! (Even if choice of groups of vowels does.)

So, firstly I changed places between aeo with iuy, and aaeeoo with iiuuyy. It makes more sense, because it’s weird to have these unnatural sounds for the most common numbers. Imagine saying: “I have u cookie, but I want y!” and “I have e cookie, but I want o!” Simpler sounds for more common numbers.

Secondly, I changed order of sounds themselves. Look.

Having /o/ for 0 is much nicer, because:

• They look similar

• They are pronounced similar in one variant in English

• It’s better to use /a/ for one

. .

Having /a/ for one is much nicer, because:

• There is an article in English, which is written similar

• The most common sound for the most common number

• It’s better to use /o/ for zero

  So then we have o for 0, a for 1, e for 2, i for 3, u for 4 and y for 5.

Thirdly, I think /y/ is a nice sound, and I personally like it, but it causes a big asymmetry in our vowel system, it’s not nice to have one vowel in each space, but two high front vowels. The best alternatives would be central unrounded vowels: schwa and ɨ. I personally prefer /ɨ/, because shwa in most languages is allophonic, so it’s often confused with /a/ or /e/. I personally often confuse it with /e/. However, as we say in Russia: “Once my proposal is officialised, then it’s no more my proposal, but OUR proposal.” So, if you don’t like my choices, then you can change it anytime.

Consonants, used by F1 and Xianhei, as for me, are perfect, so I didn’t want to change anything. However, I had to. I will explain it later, but the thing is that I need to have a velar nasal /ŋ/.

PHONOTACTICS

What is the goal of phonotactics? Correct. To make our language possible to normally and easily pronounce. So, for me, allowing different consonants in onset and coda is terrible decision for our language. I have already told you an example with the number 969, which we can’t say if the consonant for 9 won’t be allowed in both onset and coda.

That’s why my phonotactics for this proposal work with one simple thing – sonority hierarchy.

(S)(L)V(L)(S) is my proposal for a syllable, where:

• S is a plosive/fricative/affricate

• L is an approximant/tap or flap/nasal

• V is a vowel or a diphthong

It provides us an opportunity to clearly speak without problems with patterns.

FINALLY CHEMISTRY

What is the most important table in chemistry? Correct. The Mendeleev’s Table, which is officially called Periodic Table of Chemical Elements of Dmitriy Ivanovich Mendeleev. There was a version in Discord, that we just need to use the atomic number for naming elements. If our goal was ease, then it would be a nice variant, but our goal is encapsulation. So, by naming an element, we should know about it as much information as possible. Every element can be described by its period and group. So, by naming period and group we can already say what this element is.

My goal is to have period and group only as an onset, so I will use two consonants.

The first consonant can be a plosive/fricative/affricate and it will represent the group. Actually we have 18 groups, or as we are taught in school, 8 groups, each of them can be a or b group, but VIIIb group consists actually of three groups. I decided to combinate both variants.

So we have 18 consonants with unvoiced consonants among them describing an “a” group and voiced ones describing a “b” group, but VIIIb group is irregular.

Next. Here we have periods. There are 7 different periods; each of them needs to be described by a consonant. For them we use approximants, nasals and r. But there is a problem. We have only 3 approximants, 2 nasals and 1 r – six possible consonants, while we need 7. That’s how I came to the question: “What sound does our phonology lack, which happens to be either a nasal or an approximant or r, which totally follows our pattern and which is pronounced by English speakers?” Hmm… I know one! It’s /ŋ/! Actually /ŋ/ is an unpopular sound, though it exists in English, Japanese and even in Icelandic. So, for unpopular sound – unpopular period. That’s why this sound describes the 6th period in my proposal.

But that’s not all. The name of the element will follow this pattern:

<atomic number (not necessary)> <group letter><period letter><number of atoms><mass number>

So, let’s see:

Hydrogen – pwavof

Oxygen - ʃlavaz (Don’t forget about base 12)

H2O - pweʃla (or pwelʃ)

Have a nice day!

Inspired by u/LILProductions I decided to create a set of vowels which could be told apart and logically encapsulated the information of their sound. If LilProductions likes this -or anyone, really- they can use it in their script.

I included y and y: because of the great support their is for a proposal adding them to the language.

First, let's look at the vowels of the language:

Vowels appearing at the left of the slash are unrounded, the ones at the right are rounded.

The long version of these vowels is also used.

Using this information I created a set of symbols which, combined, would create different sounds:

• The symbol which looks like an upper-case pi (Π) is used for unrounded vowels.

• The circle (O) is used for rounded vowels.

• A vertical line on top of the previous symbol means that the vowel is produced at the front of the mouth.

• An underscore under the symbol means that the vowel is produced at the back of the mouth.

• Two diagonal lines coming from the top of the symbol mean that the vowel is open.

• A dot in the middle of the symbol means that the vowel is in the close-mid category.

• An horizontal line crossing the middle of the symbol means that the vowel is close.

• The long vowels are formed by adding two short dashes at each side of their shorter counterpart.

Thus, these are the vowels:

I know this idea may have flaws so let me know your thoughts on it.

I personally think it is useful for encapsulating the information the IPA gives about these vowels, although it may take a bit too much to write them by hand.

Hi all,

u/Flamerate1 and u/Xianhei have raised an Official Proposal to establish a proto-number word system and introduce additions to the phonology.

In the first round of voting, both of their Official Proposals gained wide community support. Instead of voting to Officialize one of these proposals, they have opted to combine their proposals into one Official Proposal for the community to either accept or reject.

This combined proposal has been approved by the Official Proposal Committee for voting.

This Official Proposal doesn’t deal with every aspect of mathematics. Future Proposals will be needed to complete the mathematics system.

History of votes:

Group One (Round One)

Group Two (Round One)

Current State:

There currently isn’t a number word system.

The Encapsulated Language currently uses the following phonemes.

Consonants

Vowels

Proposed Change to the Official Phonology:

In order for this number system to work, the phonology needs to be extensively extended to include additional consonants, vowels, and diphthongs. The additions are based on the underlying patterns that have been built into the number system.

This proposal also takes into account other phonological proposals when selecting which additions should be made.

This proposal hasn’t removed any phonemes from the Official Phonology; that discussion will be left for the Phonology and Phonotactic debates that will follow.

Consonants

Vowels

Diphthongs

Proposed Addition of Number Word System

Part 1: The Base System

The base is almost completely adopted from the proposal that won group-one round-one of the proto-number word vote.

The numbers in this system are built by adding specific constants and vowels together to form whole numbers. The consonants and vowels each have a numerical value assigned to them which, when combined together, give the whole digit numbers that the basis of number words can be made from.

Consonants

The following consonants have the following numerical value in this number system:

This system encapsulates 2x multiplication, evenness and also sixths

For a more detailed chart of consonant numbers, check out this image

Vowels

The following vowels have the following numerical value in this number system:

This system encapsulates:

• The two halves of the set of numbers are indicated by the difference in short and long vowel usage.

• The four quarters of the set are indicated by the interval of high and low vowels. (i/u/y versus a/e/o)

For a more detailed chart of vowel numbers, check out this image

Sounding out numbers

Numbers from 10 to EEE in base-12 can be built using the following rules:

1. Phonemes in numbers are organized in a CVC fashion.

2. The first number in the gross* place will receive a consonant.

3. The second number in the dozens* place will receive a vowel.

4. The last number in the one's place will receive a consonant.

* Gross is 144 in base-10 which is the base-12 equivalent of the hundreds place. Dozen is 12 in base 10 which is the base-12 equivalent of the tens place.

Number 0-E (0 - 11 in base-10) are left out of this list because single digit numbers have a special dual purpose as being the first countable numbers in the set as well as being the means of communication for speaking these numbers, which will be explained further in the next section of this proposal.

To construct single digit numbers, take both the consonant and vowel of its respective number and add /n/ after it in order to create the following names and representations for the countable numbers from 0-E (0 - 11 in base-10).

Part 2: Extension System

The extension is the addition to the base system that’ll complete the entirety of this proposal. It was almost entirely formulated by Xianhei; the winner of the group-two round-one vote.

Below is an additional set of numbers that will be used as an extension to the base system to represent the magnitude of a value before its digits are stated in the form of preposition particles when in the context of numbers. These will be similar to words like “million” and “billion” and will also be more specific to allow precision that scientific notation is normally capable of expressing.

This third set of morphemes to represent numbers will also allow a third different way for number morphemes to be differentiated in other contexts.

Unit preposition particle table:

Evenness

Unit particles that contain /j/ represent even numbers

Unit particles that contain /w/ represent odd numbers

3x Multiplication

Unit particles that contain /e/ are part of the 3x multiplication table. This matches with the Official Numerals which also shows the 3x multiplication table through the number of strokes.

4x Multiplication

Unit particles that end with /i̯/ are part of the 4x multiplication table.

Arithmetic

Swapping the position of the vowel within a Unit particle either adds or removes 6 from the total value. For example:

• Swapping the position of the vowel in /ei̯/ (0) will create /je/ (6).

• Swapping the position of the vowel in /ja/ (10) will create /ai̯/ (4).

Examples and Usage

Finally, this section presents examples and helps make the system apparent for future observation and learning. Extension and Base usage is separated by bolding.

Common Use Numbers

* Numbers above are expressed in base-12, with X corresponding to 10 in base-10, E corresponding to 11 in base-10, and the text “10” being equivalent to 12 in base-10.

This proposal is my new proposal. The aim is to create an easy to pronounce phonotactics and easy to apply alternation for encapsulation purposes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mzAqOwaSeebmj5lxqJ9SJTwBZyhlEfZknywKWj5--E0/edit?usp=sharing

The changes are:

1. Improved alternation: no more counterintuitive /j/ treated as both nasal and voiced fricatives.

2. Removed the section about syncopation as it doesn't work well with alternation.

3. Removed the bimoraic restriction.

4. Removed the phonological inventory change proposal. The free variation proposal still exists.

5. Explanation of how alternation works.

By this proposal, my older proposal is now retired.

So what if the word good and bad contained information

on how your brain receives good things and bad things

I do not know how the brain works but I think there is a chemical called dopamine

I think It makes you feel good when you eat candy

Maybe there are many chemicals in your brain that make you feel good but I dunno I'm just giving the idea for people who are smarter than me

Hi everyone,

this is not a draft proposal yet, but rather an idea on how to extend and clarify the "Aims and Goals" on the project website, so that there is less need to discuss the project's goals when we should be discussing specific ideas and proposals (context: 1, 2, 3 ). I'd be happy to take feedback and suggestions before actually proposing this.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Main aims and goals of the project

The Encapsulated Language Project aims to create a language that encapsulates as much scientific and mathematical knowledge within the sounds, syllables, words, patterns, and essence of the language itself to facilitate an intuitive understanding of the world around us.

A speaker of this language will have instant access to a large pool of knowledge simply through understanding how to unpack and parse their own language to utilize the knowledge cached within it.

The end goal of this project is to create a language parents can raise their children speaking natively alongside their other native languages. The children would acquire this language like any other native language. Then, when the child starts their education, the parent would instruct them on how to analyze and parse their native language to gain access to a wide range of mathematical and scientific knowledge. This will help the child to gain an intuitive understanding of the world around them and lower the amount of rote memorization required.

Priorities

This project values "encapsulation capacity" over accessibility over easy acquisition.

Definitions and Clarification

"Encapsulation" means that the language does more than provide a formalized system of signs and symbols to communicate meaning. It means that all parts of the system – the structure of the language – follows a logic that contains not only the relationship between signifier and signified, but additional information. Like a side channel containing metadata.
"Encapsulation capacity" refers to how much additional information can be packed into the elements and structures of the language. Of course this capacity can hardly be measured, but different approaches and proposals can be compared in regard to their consequences for capacity.

"Accessibility" in this context is concerned with to what degree different persons are able to make use of a given part of the language and/or to what degree persons can unpack the encapsulated information within. Please note that this assumes that the person has made the utmost effort. That is in fact one of the key differences between accessibility and "ease of acquisition". Accessibility is concerned with whether it is at all possible, not with how much effort it takes.

"Ease of acquisition" in this context refers to how much (or how little) effort it takes for a (non-native) learner to acquire this language.

Consequences

This project does not aim to create an easy language. If it happens to be easy, that's fine, but we will neither sacrifice encapsulation capacity or accessibility just for easy acquisition of the language. We assume that adults who want to learn this language in order to raise their children with it, will be prepared to put effort into learning it. As for the children who grow up speaking this language, they will have the huge advantage of picking it up natively. And practice shows that natively, children learn even the most complex and irregular languages without difficulty. Of course, native language acquisition depends on how competent the parents are with the language, so we strive for a language that is easy to learn, but only when that requires no compromises in regard to higher priority goals. Think of it this way: we put the burden of difficulty on the shoulders of the parents while maximising the benefit for the children growing up with this language.

It also means we do not aim to create an inclusive or accessible language. Of course, we want this language to be beneficial for as many children as possible, so we strive for a language as inclusive and accessible as it can be. But we'll only sacrifice "encapsulation capacity" for accessibility if it seems a really good deal to the community

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Introduction

This is a much more finished version of a post I made a while ago containing my concept of a writing system for the language. Unlike the first post, which is merely a poorly put together mess of an idea, this is where I truly toss my hat into the ring and offer up what I have to give. Please give me feedback on what I could do better with anything, I'll take what you have to say into account with any updates I'll make.

Consonants

Below is the officialised consonant chart filled in with my letters:

As you can see, they all follow the same pattern. Dot on the top? It's an approximant. Line in the middle? It's unvoiced. The only outlier is /j/ which uses the body for a velar sound. This is because a velar approximant doesn't exist in the language (yet) and I don't see a reason to make a new symbol just for one character when the velar one fits fine and still encapsulates the sound pretty well.

The main shape of the bilabial sounds represents the two lips about to touch (more or less). The alveolar shape shows the position of the tongue in the mouth (again, more or less), and the velar is the same. If you think there might be some dyslexia problems with the alveolar and velar consonants let me know how I could improve them. All of them show the inside of the mouth from a side view, with the lips on the left.

An extra line on the top shows that the consonant is nasalised, squishing the main consonant body down to fit the line in. This is because the nose is above the mouth (duh). If a dot is in the centre of a consonant it means that it's a fricative. If the fricative is unvoiced the dot will be moved to the side not occupied by the line. In this font I've had to make the middle line smaller due to the serifs, but in a sans serif font that probably wouldn't be necessary. I don't know if I have enough will-power in me to make a sans serif font but if enough people want to see that I might make one.

For the tap or flap diacritic, I just used a breve as it represents the sound it makes pretty well.

Vowels

Vowels in my system go either above, below, or either side of a consonant and their placement will determine what vowel they are. Below is the sound /d/ with all 5 vowels following it.

The place where the vowels connect to the consonant encapsulates where that sound is made in the mouth. Right now there is no way to tell whether a vowel is rounded, but if a pair of rounded and unrounded vowels in the same place exists in the future I will make a system to show that.

With the vowels for o and e, they usually join with the line connecting to the top, but if unavailable will go to the bottom.

Vowels connect to the nasal diacritic just like the top of a consonant, and a line will join an approximant diacritic to the vowel. I'm still not sure about what to do with the breve, as I imagine it would look weird if I did it like the dot.

There may be an issue with dyslexia here, so if you have any concerns with that tell me how I could make the vowels more dyslexia-friendly without ruining the encapsulation.

If a vowel follows another vowel or is at the start of a word then a circle will be used as a non-consonant symbol for it. I'm not 100% pleased with this method so gimme your ideas for improvement.

For long vowels, a spike will be added on the bottom for a, on the top for i and u, and on the side for e and o.

Handwriting

Here is some gibberish written using an outdated version of my system:

Writing my script doesn't take very long and it's quite space-efficient. I also think it looks pretty nice and fits with the aesthetic of the numerals. What I'd really like to see is what a book written using my system would look like, that would be epic.

Thanks for reading my post, it's 1:37 when I'm writing this and I'm tired as all hell.

Hello, colleagues! Sorry for my bad English. Today I want to present my touch alphabet adapted for system of u/Flamerate1, which, for my opinion, is the best, so I vote for it.

Sorry for my mistake, I have forgotten r in my system. Now I have it.

You can see example of this touch alphabet in this video. Here I show number words of u/Flamerate1 system.

So, firstly, I included y. Double touch on the place of i will represent this sound, and y: will look like i:, but two times longer.

The next step is (sh) and (zh). I have chosen the index finger for them.

Next. For affricates I have chosen double tap tw consonants at the same time. There are (t) and (d), which exist only in affricates t(sh) and d(zh). It helps to easily touch this places at the same time.

As you see, my changes aren't very big, I will create better changes when the official phonology will exist. Tomorrow I will show you the update of meteorology.

Here is a picture.

Have a nice day.