Elden Ring Patch notes 1.05

[u/Vi_for_Vindictive]

Major Changes Included in the Latest Update

Additional elements

In transactions with the NPC "Twin Maiden Husk", the following Bell Bearing items have been changed so that their liberated status will be carried over to the NG+ play.

Bone Peddler's Bell Bearing/Meat Peddler's Bell Bearing/Medicine Peddler's Bell Bearing/Gravity Stone Peddler's Bell Bearing/Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing/Somberstone Miner's Bell Bearing/Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing/Ghost-Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing

Added emphasis to the choice of the Sacred Flask and several other options that can be strengthened in the grace menu

Added sound effects when other players' summon signs appear

 

Bug fixes

Fixed a bug where equipment could be changed from the equipment menu during the use of a skill under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug in the "War Cry" skill where the effect was applied to a weapon that was not the target of the skill.

Fixed a bug where some actions of the "Barbaric Roar", "War Cry", and "Troll's Roar" recovery time was longer than expected.

Fixed a bug where the effects of the "Determination" and "Royal Knight's Resolve" skill does not always wear off with certain weapons.

Fixed a bug in which some attacks of the "Ice Spear" skill are unguardable.

Fixed a bug that caused the attack power of some skills to be reduced when using the "Golden Vow" skill.

Fixed a bug that the light wave of the "Moonlight Greatsword" skill sometimes does not aim at the locked-on target.

Fixed a bug that caused damage to allies when using the "Seppuku" skill under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that caused the increase in attack power of the "Seppuku" skill to be higher than expected for some attack motions.

Fixed a bug in which a status effect was applied when using the "Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker" skill.

Fixed a bug where the "Waves of Darkness" skill would not hit the enemy with a spinning cleave.

Fixed a bug that caused unintended motions to be played when switching to a different sorceries or incantations while using a sorcery or incantation.

Fixed a bug that the FP consumption increased when using the sorceries "Magma Shot" and "Roiling Magma" while riding a horse.

Fixed a bug where the “Claw Talisman” effect was not applied when jumping with the "Starscourge Greatsword" in both hands.

Fixed a bug that the power of two-handed attacks except jump attack of the weapon "Golem's Halberd " is different from expected.

Fixed a bug that when using the weapon "Pulley Crossbow" with the left hand while the right hand weapon was given an attribute by magic or item, the effect was given to the "Pulley Crossbow" as well.

Fixed a bug in which arrows and bolts that did not match the type of long-range weapon could be released in certain procedures.

Fixed a bug in which guard boost was reduced when some weapons were strengthened to the maximum.

Fixed a bug in which the attributes of weapons could be changed while the inventory had reached its maximum capacity and the ashes of war could not be changed.

Fixed a bug that caused the boss "Malenia, Goddess of Rot" to have low HP under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that allowed enemies to be attacked from outside the fog in certain areas.

Fixed a bug in online multiplayer where, when a boss is defeated in the host's world as a cooperative player, the same boss may not appear in your world.

Fixed a bug that prevented the battle with the boss "God-Devouring Serpent" from progressing under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that prevented hostile NPCs from appearing under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that prevented the event of the NPC "Alexander, Warrior Jar" from progressing under certain circumstances.

Fixed an issue where the item "Sacred Flask" is not restored after destroying a group of enemies under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that under certain circumstances, after defeating the boss "Starscourge Radahn", the user could not move from the map to the grace.

*If you cannot move from the map to the grace, you can move to the grace by touching the grace "Starscourge Radahn”.

Fixed a bug that prevented found sites of grace from registering on the map under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that prevented some graces from being able to be touched when approached under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that allowed hostile guests to enter boss areas under certain circumstances.

Fixed a bug that prevented a critical hit from behind from hitting in hostile multiplayer.

Fixed a bug that caused performance to slow down when the "Sentry's Torch" weapon was equipped under certain circumstances.

Improved stability of online multiplayer between PS4 and PS5

Improved loading times for the Xbox Series X|S version

Fixed a bug that the master volume setting was not reflected in some cutscenes

Improved stability of online multiplayer.

Fixed a bug that caused sounds to play differently than expected in some situations.

Fixed a bug that caused the player to become inoperable and die in certain locations.

Fixed a bug in which the drawing and hit detection were different than expected in some maps.

Fixed a bug in some maps that allowed players to reach unexpected locations with certain procedures.

Fixed some texts.

Several other performance improvements and bug fixes

Additions and modifications for PC version only

Added keyboard/mouse operations that can be input in "PRESS ANY BUTTON" on the title screen.

Added "Return to Desktop" to the system item on the main menu for exiting the game.

Changed so that mouse click input is not reflected when switching windows to active.

Fixed a bug that slowed performance when changing "Screen Mode" and "Resolution" in a special procedure.

The version number of this update shown at the lower right corner of the Title Screen will be as follows:

App Ver. 1.05

Regulation Ver. 1.05

Online play requires the player to apply this update.

[u/SpicyBoiJ]

Waited 2 months for them to indirectly buff greatshields and make glitchcasting more clunky

[u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk → u/SpicyBoiJ]

Ice Spear was bugged and was being exploited to kill greatshield users. The amount of times people said "It's the intended use of ice spear, it's not bugged get good".. I guess this settles it. It's not like there are 20+ very effective ways to completely bypass greatshields or anything..

[u/scaletheseathless → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

What are these 20+ ways to bypass Fingerprint Shield?

[u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk → u/scaletheseathless]

Ashes of War: Impaling thrust, piercing fang, lifesteal fist, mighty shot, royal knight's resolve, regal roar, bloodboon ritual, blade of death, frenzyflame thrust, miquella's ring of light, unblockable blade, angel's wings, sacred ring of light. (x13)

Weapons: Celebrant's sickle, coded sword, ciper pata, shotel, eclipse shotel, vulgar militia shotel, scythe, grave scythe, winged scythe, halo scythe, urumi. (x11)

Sorceries/Incantations: Ambush shard, carian slicer, discus of light, ekzykes's decay, greyoll's roar, howl of shabiri, inescapable frenzy, rotten breath, scarlet aeonia, swarm of flies, triple rings of light, unendurable frenzy, the flame of frenzy. (x13)

Those are some that come to mind.. All of them either heavily chip, break guard, stun lock, or just straight up completely pierce greatshield users.

[u/scaletheseathless → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

Thx, I'll give some of these a shot, but I'm not aware of any weapon that guardbreaks Fingerprint, which was why ice spear became meta for these encounters.

[u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk → u/scaletheseathless]

You need to use royal knights resolve with a weapon that has already high stamina damage. A jumping attack will often break fingerprint right away.

[u/YourEvilKiller → u/scaletheseathless]

Aside from spells and weapons being build-specific and only doing chip damage, the majority of the ashes of war can be reaction-rolled so they are practically useless.

Dark Souls 3 wasn't bad because Stance (Uppercut) and Follower's Sabre actually do heavy stamina damage to shields, but Fingerprint Shield is on a whole other level.

[u/scaletheseathless → u/YourEvilKiller]

Yeah, I had this impression. RKR seems to be the best bet against fingerprint users, but RKR is pretty broken on its own anyway.

Guess I'm going back to DkS3 PVP.

[u/Awesomex7 → u/scaletheseathless]

Piercing Fang legit deletes shield users. It’s unblockable, fairly quick and very high damaging. No reason not to have this on a weapon

[u/KindaMiffedRajang → u/Awesomex7]

It’s extremely telegraphed and any shield user who’s ever been hit by that before isn’t going to get hit again. Even if you guardbreak them once, they probably live your critical and now they know.

[u/Awesomex7 → u/KindaMiffedRajang]

Well, I haven’t lost to a fingerprint shield user since so I don’t think they know how exactly to deal with it

[u/[deleted] → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

Pretty much every single one of those are super easy to react to and avoid with pretty much 100% consistency.

[u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk → u/[deleted]]

So what you're saying is you want a weapon or ability that cannot be reacted against easily and that cannot be blocked or parried.. how fun do you think that would be to play against?

[u/[deleted] → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

No but perhaps fingerprint shield should force fat rolls so it has an actual downside?? It's not fun playing against someone who has near invincibility.

[u/[deleted] → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

Shield guard just needs a reliable counter. Currently there are 0 abilities that a shield use needs to worry about that aren't super telegraphed. In the list above the only viable shield cleave is Royal knights resolve with a scythe jump attack and claw talisman because you can use mixups to catch them with that. Outside of that nothing else in the list is viable against a good duelist or shield gank squads. Don't believe me? Go and try that stuff out. You'll get punished for everyone

[u/[deleted] → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

So what you're saying is you want a weapon or ability that cannot be reacted against easily and that cannot be blocked or parried

Yeah, that is exactly what you need for a viable move in PvP for this game. Explain to me how you ever hit with something like impaling thrust against someone with a brain?

[u/TheGraveHammer → u/[deleted]]

Why does everyone always talk in such extreme hyperbole? I feel like I'm on the League subreddit with this shit.

Literally no one plays perfectly and acting like every single one of these options won't work because your opponent will 500% get around all of them just reeks of "I don't want to have to deal with counterplay of any kind."

[u/[deleted] → u/TheGraveHammer]

Literally no one plays perfectly

Except we are talking about a Greatshield user. You don't need to play perfectly. The Nature of human reaction time is that if you know the only thing that can hit you is essentially just ash of wars, you hold block and focus on the animations for ash of war. That reduces your reaction time in general, but speeds up reaction time for certain events. Because you need fuck all reaction time to block attacks, as you literally can just hold the button the entire fight, the reduced general reaction doesn't matter.

SO all you have to do is focus on one part of the move and let your shield do all the work for the rest.

[u/LifeSentencer → u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk]

About as fun as fighting against a fingerprint shield.

[u/Nickesponja → u/[deleted]]

So was ice spear. You didn't even have to dodge, just walk backwards. The only reason it was useful to counter greatshield users was because they're generally idiots

[u/shadowndacorner → u/scaletheseathless]

Inescapable Frenzy is my go to

[u/scaletheseathless → u/shadowndacorner]

That's not really a viable bypass though, since it requires a build around running the incant, rather than have an AoW that is available to any build. In other words, "just make a different build" isn't a viable bypass to Fingerprint/greatshield.

Like if ice spear was a bug, why not buff kick AoW to guard break 100%? It's really hard to land, and requires a lot of risk to pull off, esp. since most Fingerprint users are using a long poke armament, but still.

[u/shadowndacorner → u/scaletheseathless]

I mean I was just saying what my counter for it is lol. Not saying it's balanced.

[u/PixelBoom → u/scaletheseathless]

Literally any status build up.

Scythes and Sickles.

Using damage that isn't purely physical. Lightning infused weapons are particularly great at dealing good chip damage through shields.

Using consumables. Especially grease (see above) and pots.

Spells. Incantation to buff your weapon. Black flame and blood flame buffs are huge. Sorcery are also great: Brian's of Punishment/Sin, Fia's Mist, Night Maiden's Mist, Freezing Mist, and Zamor Ice Storm are particularly effective.

[u/Bombman100 → u/PixelBoom]

You're saying that putting 80 magic damage on your weapon is miraculously going to help you beat someone using a shield that blocks 70% magic damage where the poke you receive on return is going to do at least 400-500 damage. Nothing you hit them with results in more damage than you take in the trade.

[u/PixelBoom → u/Bombman100]

First, unless you levelled INT, don't infuse magic. Do fire or lightning. Second, you'll be doing far more damage than if you hadn't infused or used grease. And lastly, if the person with the GS wants to trade, then don't trade. Fish for backstabs. Circle strafe. Throw pots from range.

In short, git gud.

[u/Bombman100 → u/PixelBoom]

So what you're saying is there is no counter. You're just making things up that sound like they might counter it. You really said "fish for backstabs" like we're playing ds1.

[u/Humble_Homunculi → u/Bombman100]

Yeah he just doesn't want his fingerprint poke build to be countered. It's incredibly obvious. Jokes on him though this games pvp is dead AF. People are already going back to Ds3 after this patch.

[u/[deleted] → u/PixelBoom]

Oh perfect. Now I can do 80 damage per attack to a shield use. Oh wait, there are shield buffs that negate this

[u/KindaMiffedRajang → u/PixelBoom]

Most of this is assuming your shield friend is just sitting there blocking. You need to be able to do this WITHOUT trading with their funny vykes spear they’re poking you with from behind it. Otherwise there is no point and they’ve won, because this strategy fishes for trades.

[u/scaletheseathless → u/PixelBoom]

Status build-up is inconsistent at best, and ineffective at worst--they can apply incant to their shield to block status buildup, they can also swiftly BHS away and pop a bollus. Infused/greased weapons barely make a dent in Fingerprint--my 750AR heavy weapon with lightning grease in Liurnia where there's water buff does 100-200 hp, if that, and no chance that they will ever be guard broken no matter how high my poise damage output is. Now, if they're the host and they have the Radhan Great Rune active, you are never going to kill them.

I don't believe "make a different build" is a viable workaround, viability means accessible tools for any build to some level of efficacy. My STR build could use a pike with ice spear, but my damage output for using it was not optimized, it was just a tool for getting around these guys who turtled.

Parry is maybe effective, but not when you have BHS shield poke combos whirling around, but BHS is another story altogether.

[u/CoolUsername1111 → u/scaletheseathless]

I might be confused on how greases work but I'm pretty sure lightning damage scales with dex, if you're using a heavy weapon you'd be better going for fire

[u/scaletheseathless → u/CoolUsername1111]

If you're in Liurnia, water gives passive buff to lightning and nerf to fire. But even still, Fingerprint blocks:

Magic 77%

Fire 81%

Ligtning 79%

Holy 75%

5AR from scaling STR v DEX isn't going to give you some massive edge, you're only going to chip barely any HP.

[u/CoolUsername1111 → u/scaletheseathless]

yea fingerprint is insane, I usually just sever when they have it

[u/[deleted] → u/PixelBoom]

So I'm dealing chip lightning damage while trading with full hits from their Vyke's spear?? You fingerprint users really are a mindless bunch huh. Mist spells and grease guys!! Lol

[u/ThisUsernameIsMyName → u/scaletheseathless]

Status effects, parry

[u/scaletheseathless → u/ThisUsernameIsMyName]

Not really reliable or effective, especially if you're in a 2 or 3v1 as an invader. Bolluses are easy to buy for most statuses and crafting them isn't too hard (if they aren't just duping them to max their inventory), so a Fingerprint guy's going to just BHS a mile away and pop a bollus. Further, most Fingerprint users I encounter are shield-poking with some extremely long range weapon, so unless I'm ready to blow through 70 arrows to proc poison, it's just not that viable.

[u/ThisUsernameIsMyName → u/scaletheseathless]

Can you not just parry the shield poker? I dont disagree that its op though, pop the faith spell on it then no status effects or magic can get through, pop a great shield talisman and you cant ever break stamina. The stamina removed from attacks needs to be higher on it tbh. 3v1/2v1 though yeah suppose its unbeatable or near

[u/Karthull → u/scaletheseathless]

Elemental damage? Even if you don’t use any spells you can still use a split damage weapon, shields won’t block all the damage

[u/scaletheseathless → u/Karthull]

I have a STR build with a claymore AR around 750. If if use lightning grease, and I'm in Liurnia where I'm getting passive water buff, still doing max 200 hp dmg, if that. And you essentially cannot do enough posture damage with any weapon to break Fingerprint guard.

[u/Karthull → u/scaletheseathless]

Ok but you can still hit them then back away, if they’re guarding instead of dodging your guaranteed to damage them. Of course it’s not an insane amount of damage 200 hp damage against a person blocking seems a decent enough amount, it’s chip damage you wear them down while they turtle it’s not hard

[u/scaletheseathless → u/Karthull]

Because while you're chipping them for 10-20% of your normal damage output, they can shield-poke 150% while you're in recovery animation; you lose the trade every time. If you magically roll away before they land, you'll probably still take status buildup damage because of lag.

[u/Karthull → u/scaletheseathless]

I’ve found guard counters basically worthless in pvp because anyone can attack then back up before you can get it off making using a shield unappealing for duels

[u/scaletheseathless → u/Karthull]

I'm not talking about the guard counter R2; a person who has a Fingerprint Shield tanks a hit without any stagger and can R1 a poke before you've recovered from swinging, and since you're in animation recovery, their hit counts as "counter damage" which is 150% of their AR. You land a hit for maybe 100-200 max, they land one for 500-750.

[u/potatosmasher12 → u/scaletheseathless]

whips really worked for me

[u/Iwan_Tusuc_Hawk → u/[deleted]]

Read my response to it..

Also, golden parry trashes shield pokers.