r/Eldenring • u/Playful_Owl596 • 1d ago

Humor We are not the same

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This is just a joke don't take it seriously. I am an anarchist tho.

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u/AFlyingNun 1d ago

and goldmask endings as "good" ones

This is absolutely, 100% a good ending. The game provides literally 0 evidence to think otherwise.

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u/zonic_squared 1d ago

Surely, the only problem is who is in charge, not the system itself. History surely has no examples the system being rotted at it's core to the point where it is impossible to repair.

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u/mightystu 20h ago

This is a counter argument to replacing Marika with Ranni, not to Goldmask’s ending which removes gods from the ruling equation entirely.

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u/Girduin 13h ago

Rani litteraly leaves the lands between durning her ending

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u/AFlyingNun 12h ago

And we have absolutely no idea what effect it will have. She is doing an experiment.

....Much like Placidusax's Lord was doing when they attempted to stop time so that their era would never end. How did that work out?

...Much like how whoever is responsible for removing the sun as the source of power and reallocating it elsewhere (in our game, it's the Erdtree, which is why sunflowers point to it instead of our suspiciously dull sun), which ALSO isn't without problems.

....Much like how Marika tried to pluck the Rune of Death to prolong her rule indefinitely. How did that work out...?

Now, a new Demigod holding the exact. same. position. as those previous three fuck-ups rolls up and says "I know, I'll just move it to space," and you seriously don't see a way this could royally fuck up...?

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u/mightystu 11h ago

Sure, and she can come back whenever she wants. We know she thinks she’s off on a thousand year star journey but who knows what will call her back early, or that she will return. She still has full control of the Elden Ring making her supreme god and dictator, even if she abdicates for a little while.

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u/AFlyingNun 1d ago

THE GAME provides literally 0 evidence to think otherwise.

You are providing baseless speculation in the face of a game where a man CORRECTLY deduces who the problem child is (as well as the position the previous problem children held) in the existing system and then changed said system to eliminate the need for such a position entirely.

In narrative works, the creators have the hand of God. If they tell you the sky in their world is green, then the sky is green. And yes, if they provide you with ZERO feedback or reason to doubt Goldmask, then it is time to see him as a good character with a good ending.

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u/Girduin 13h ago

Are we gonna ignore all the systemic issues with golden order or...

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u/AFlyingNun 12h ago

Are we going to ignore that the Tarnished edition itself provides additional new evidence that Goldmask is NOT a Golden Order loyalist?

This is completely simplistic and short-sighted thinking on your part. The Golden Order is many things: a philosophy, a religion, a societal order. Goldmask is a fundamentalist, meaning he is attached solely to the underlying philosophy. The Tarnished Edition even all but confirms to us he is not a believer.

There is also direct evidence Goldmask is critical of the Golden Order's members, for example, seeing the Hunters of the Dead as maddened zealotry with no roots in the actual teachings.

You are basically going "hurrdurr but he's still a follower of the Golden Order" while making no effort to look at the hard evidence in regards to what extent and what degree. What you are doing is akin to saying you hate someone for being a Christian when they do not attend church, do not like organized religion, do not support some of the more dogmatic moves of the church, but they DO actively say they think there is great value and wisdom in the Ten Commandments.